# New to ganking - thanks for everyone's cooperation **URL:** \ **Category:** Crime & Punishment\ **Created:** [March 3, 2022, 3:59am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-to-ganking-thanks-for-everyones-cooperation/351903 "2022-03-03T03:59:53Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![Mr\_Serious](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mr_serious/32/289087_2.png) [@Mr\_Serious](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mr_Serious)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2022, 6:44am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-to-ganking-thanks-for-everyones-cooperation/351903/121 "2022-03-22T06:44:47Z")
ill have to write it again… silly you are slower than i thought… I wonder how many times it will take for you to comprehend that you are irrelevant. > [@Mr\_Serious](#): > > I dont care what you fly or what you pretend to do in the game ---
**Author:** ![Emiza\_Mahyisti](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/emiza_mahyisti/32/326651_2.png) [@Emiza\_Mahyisti](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Emiza_Mahyisti)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2022, 12:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-to-ganking-thanks-for-everyones-cooperation/351903/122 "2022-03-22T12:27:45Z")
> [@Mr\_Serious](#): > > filthy unpermitted miner Excuse me, I shower and dress really nice. See my PLEX purchased garments? You got the unpermitted part right. Maybe I should join @Cilla_Cybin’s mining belt in Uedama just to make you and Her Nibs unhappy. ---
**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2022, 3:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-to-ganking-thanks-for-everyones-cooperation/351903/123 "2022-03-22T15:56:06Z")
> [@Cilla\_Cybin](#): > > As I am not in NEPF anyway Why not? ---
**Author:** ![Cilla\_Cybin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cilla_cybin/32/292206_2.png) [@Cilla\_Cybin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cilla_Cybin)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2022, 3:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-to-ganking-thanks-for-everyones-cooperation/351903/124 "2022-03-22T15:57:00Z")
> [@Emiza\_Mahyisti](#): > > Maybe I should join @Cilla_Cybin’s mining belt in Uedama just to make you and Her Nibs unhappy. Indeed…then we can have a pic with 2 Ventures in it…and then 4…8…16…etc. That is how resistance movements go. And no amount of ‘you are irrelevant’ can stop the tide. ---
**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2022, 4:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-to-ganking-thanks-for-everyones-cooperation/351903/125 "2022-03-22T16:01:29Z")
> [@Cilla\_Cybin](#): > > then we can have a pic with 2 Ventures in it…and then 4…8…16…etc. Copying the beginnings of the Goons with their frigate fleets? ---
**Author:** ![Cilla\_Cybin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cilla_cybin/32/292206_2.png) [@Cilla\_Cybin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cilla_Cybin)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2022, 4:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-to-ganking-thanks-for-everyones-cooperation/351903/126 "2022-03-22T16:33:06Z")
> [@Zaera\_Keena](#): > > Copying the beginnings of the Goons with their frigate fleets? I dunno, but I do know that every battle starts with the first shot…and that shot has been fired. Give it a year or so, and we’ll see who is ‘irrelevant’. ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2022, 4:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-to-ganking-thanks-for-everyones-cooperation/351903/127 "2022-03-22T16:36:29Z")
> [@Cilla\_Cybin](#): > > Give it a year or so, and we’ll see who is ‘irrelevant’. #remindmeinoneyear ---
**Author:** ![Emiza\_Mahyisti](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/emiza_mahyisti/32/326651_2.png) [@Emiza\_Mahyisti](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Emiza_Mahyisti)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2022, 5:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-to-ganking-thanks-for-everyones-cooperation/351903/128 "2022-03-22T17:01:47Z")
> [@Cilla\_Cybin](#): > > > [@Emiza\_Mahyisti](#): > > > > Maybe I should join @Cilla_Cybin’s mining belt in Uedama just to make you and Her Nibs unhappy. > > Indeed…then we can have a pic with 2 Ventures in it…and then 4…8…16…etc. > > That is how resistance movements go. And no amount of ‘you are irrelevant’ can stop the tide. # #IStandWithCilla ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2022, 5:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-to-ganking-thanks-for-everyones-cooperation/351903/129 "2022-03-22T17:04:01Z")
…and then there were 32 ventures… ---
**Author:** ![Sascha\_Viking](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sascha_viking/32/311619_2.png) [@Sascha\_Viking](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sascha_Viking)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2022, 5:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-to-ganking-thanks-for-everyones-cooperation/351903/130 "2022-03-22T17:16:25Z")
So you are proud, that you got a defenseless pod. Congratulations… 🤣 ---
**Author:** ![Sascha\_Viking](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sascha_viking/32/311619_2.png) [@Sascha\_Viking](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sascha_Viking)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2022, 5:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-to-ganking-thanks-for-everyones-cooperation/351903/131 "2022-03-22T17:20:18Z")
@Mr_Serious \>\> You have absolutely no rights to deny or permit mining. You are not CCP. There is no game mechanics that say that you are deployed by CCP or Concord. ---
**Author:** ![Cilla\_Cybin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cilla_cybin/32/292206_2.png) [@Cilla\_Cybin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cilla_Cybin)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2022, 5:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-to-ganking-thanks-for-everyones-cooperation/351903/132 "2022-03-22T17:27:04Z")
> [@Sascha\_Viking](#): > > So you are proud, that you got a defenseless pod. Congratulations… A defenceless pod of someone who ( if you look at the killboard ) had mercilessly podded someone else just a minute earlier. Instant karma ! Yes…I am proud. Deal with it. ---
**Author:** ![Sascha\_Viking](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sascha_viking/32/311619_2.png) [@Sascha\_Viking](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sascha_Viking)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2022, 5:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-to-ganking-thanks-for-everyones-cooperation/351903/133 "2022-03-22T17:28:39Z")
[quote=“Cilla\_Cybin, post:132, topic:351903”] A defenceless pod of someone who ( if you look at the killboard ) had mercilessly podded someone else just a minute earlier. Instant karma [/quote] OK I understand… in this case excuse my sarcastic remark and congratulations from my heart- ---
**Author:** ![Cilla\_Cybin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cilla_cybin/32/292206_2.png) [@Cilla\_Cybin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cilla_Cybin)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2022, 5:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-to-ganking-thanks-for-everyones-cooperation/351903/134 "2022-03-22T17:29:46Z")
> [@Sascha\_Viking](#): > > You have absolutely no rights to deny or permit mining. You are not CCP. There is no game mechanics that say that you are deployed by CCP or Concord Indeed ! On a thread on which I get accused of being delusory…we have the deluded 'Praise Aiko ! ’ accolytes who think their silly mining permits actually mean anything. Now _that_ is delusory. ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2022, 5:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-to-ganking-thanks-for-everyones-cooperation/351903/135 "2022-03-22T17:55:48Z")
> [@Cilla\_Cybin](#): > > Give it a year or so, and we’ll see who is ‘irrelevant’. This game isn’t going to be around in a year. ---
**Author:** ![Emiza\_Mahyisti](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/emiza_mahyisti/32/326651_2.png) [@Emiza\_Mahyisti](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Emiza_Mahyisti)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2022, 6:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-to-ganking-thanks-for-everyones-cooperation/351903/136 "2022-03-22T18:02:16Z")
Inside info or speculation? ---
**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2022, 6:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-to-ganking-thanks-for-everyones-cooperation/351903/137 "2022-03-22T18:31:01Z")
> [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#): > > This game isn’t going to be around in a year. The game has been dying since 2005, or is that miners been dying since 2005? I dunno, but they sure whine alot. ---
**Author:** ![Cilla\_Cybin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cilla_cybin/32/292206_2.png) [@Cilla\_Cybin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cilla_Cybin)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2022, 7:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-to-ganking-thanks-for-everyones-cooperation/351903/138 "2022-03-22T19:32:37Z")
If Eve online dies, it will be because there’s too many vets harking on about how they got an arrow in the knee at the Battle Of Caldari Prime. _It all becomes self fulfilling_, when there’s too many people with a 'glory days ’ attitude. And that attitude arises mainly because it is a natural tendency for people to want ‘the best’ to have been during their time span. No vet wants to imagine that they’ve spent 15 years in the game and all those whiny noobs are gonna get to see the best. So…like the ‘monsters from the ID’ of Forbidden Planet…the glorious past tramples everything before it…including the entire game itself. The game needs to replace all the ‘past was glorious’ rhetoric with ‘the future will be glorious’. And that is why it needs more crazy noobs with crazy visions. ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2022, 7:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-to-ganking-thanks-for-everyones-cooperation/351903/139 "2022-03-22T19:45:29Z")
> [@Cilla\_Cybin](#): > > No vet wants to imagine that they’ve spent 15 years in the game and all those whiny noobs are gonna get to see the best. I don’t think this is true at all. I for one am happy when new players make progress, and have advocated for new players to start with like 10-20 million SP. I’ve also done most of my playing on rookie characters in recent times. And many of my peers feel the same way. I think that the reason why some new(er) players think that vets don’t want them to reach the same level because they want to “maintain their eliteness” or whatever is because that’s actually the attitude they’re getting from their gutter-trash high-sec carebear corporation CEOs and directors. But those people aren’t _actually_ vets; they just _pretend_ that they are. _True_ vets think about passing on the torch, instead of thinking about accumulating more torches. Like I said earlier, I would recruit you, but you’d have to inject a character to some minimum level of requirement. Unfortunately, crap-fit Condors and Ventures just aren’t going to work for this. Then you’d go from getting one AFK pod kill in 6 months to 20 ship kills a day, and you’d finally “get” it. Many of my friends went through the same sort of process after I met them in EVE. Many didn’t believe they would until they _did._ ---
**Author:** ![Cilla\_Cybin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cilla_cybin/32/292206_2.png) [@Cilla\_Cybin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cilla_Cybin)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2022, 8:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-to-ganking-thanks-for-everyones-cooperation/351903/140 "2022-03-22T20:27:55Z")
> [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#): > > Like I said earlier, I would recruit you, but you’d have to inject a character to some minimum level of requirement. Unfortunately, crap-fit Condors and Ventures just aren’t going to work for this. Then you’d go from getting one AFK pod kill in 6 months to 20 ship kills a day, and you’d finally “get” it. Many of my friends went through the same sort of process after I met them in EVE. Many didn’t believe they would until they _did._ I’m not bothered about the ‘6 months’ ( half of which was wasted mining anyway )…as the pace of learning and skills has accelerated dramatically in weeks. I couldn’t help but notice that the guy I podded had 50 or so kills and 800 losses…and that’s not a stat I want, so I’d _far rather_ take my time and know that I am up to it. Slow progress…but certain progress. That’s my way. I do already ‘get it’…but I just don’t see the point in going out and wasting ships on battles I know I will not win. I’d rather pick my fights carefully. Podding someone is insignificant, yes, but at least I’ve got past that stage where people could say ’ you haven’t done a single thing’. And it is just the start…and we all have to start somewhere. I still don’t understand what your beef is with AO. I don’t feel ‘used’ in any way…in fact, apart from being always ready to defend corp HQ I do pretty much what I like. I make donations willingly, nobody forces me to. The corp knows about my alt, who is regularly there too. Plus I get the benefit of having a pretty secure base from which to travel down to Uedama for some fun. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-to-ganking-thanks-for-everyones-cooperation/351903.md?page=6) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-to-ganking-thanks-for-everyones-cooperation/351903.md?page=8)