# New type of personal station in belts

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-type-of-personal-station-in-belts/450612>\
**Category:** Player Features & Ideas\
**Created:** [May 28, 2024, 6:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-type-of-personal-station-in-belts/450612 "2024-05-28T18:57:58Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Cpt\_Shinji](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cpt_shinji/32/422100_2.png) [@Cpt\_Shinji](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cpt_Shinji)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2024, 12:41am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-type-of-personal-station-in-belts/450612/61 "2024-05-29T00:41:43Z")

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I don’t feel like egregious flaws have been pointed out personally, what I have instead witnessed is peoples fear of additions for the individual, as eves forum community is and has always been obsessed with adding alliance/null related mechanics and changes. Most every bit of content for solo or semi-solo players such as overhauling level 4 missions to be more intricate that has been suggested has been shut down by the forum users. Anecdotally in chat(public) in game, I have experienced a positive reception to this idea.

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**Author:** ![Eternus8lux8lucis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/eternus8lux8lucis/32/385152_2.png) [@Eternus8lux8lucis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Eternus8lux8lucis)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2024, 12:42am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-type-of-personal-station-in-belts/450612/62 "2024-05-29T00:42:18Z")

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Adding a griefing/ganking feature isnt adding PVP. Not only do you screw over the miners within that belt anyone who tries to take it down will get ganked.

Hey Ive ganked before, Ive mined before. This is a one sided instrument to just grief high sec.

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**Author:** ![Cpt\_Shinji](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cpt_shinji/32/422100_2.png) [@Cpt\_Shinji](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cpt_Shinji)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2024, 12:43am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-type-of-personal-station-in-belts/450612/63 "2024-05-29T00:43:19Z")

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It doesn’t screw over the miners in any way. In fact I love the idea of it increasing the rate of mining even more than it having a mining fleet of its own.

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**Author:** ![Andlaust](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/andlaust/32/422007_2.png) [@Andlaust](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Andlaust)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2024, 12:43am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-type-of-personal-station-in-belts/450612/64 "2024-05-29T00:43:44Z")

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CCP has repeatedly nerfed the income of highsec over the years. They did this precisely because too many people like you who want to make more isk without putting in any effort for it. Your idea is a direct contravention to all the effort CCP has put into that.

If you want to make more isk, get the f\*\*k out of highsec, it is that simple. Highsec doesn’t need any new methods of passive income.

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**Author:** ![Cpt\_Shinji](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cpt_shinji/32/422100_2.png) [@Cpt\_Shinji](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cpt_Shinji)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2024, 12:44am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-type-of-personal-station-in-belts/450612/65 "2024-05-29T00:44:04Z")

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No, because it quite literally adds pve combat content to be experienced by the owner.

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**Author:** ![Andlaust](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/andlaust/32/422007_2.png) [@Andlaust](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Andlaust)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2024, 12:44am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-type-of-personal-station-in-belts/450612/66 "2024-05-29T00:44:38Z")

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No one cares about the owner getting a new source of isk.

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**Author:** ![QuakeGod](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/quakegod/32/480339_2.png) [@QuakeGod](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/QuakeGod)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2024, 12:44am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-type-of-personal-station-in-belts/450612/67 "2024-05-29T00:44:57Z")

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First thing I would do is align myself with SAFETY and set several of the stations up in Uedama. No one would be stupid enough to attack them, and I would get free ore 24/7.

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**Author:** ![Cpt\_Shinji](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cpt_shinji/32/422100_2.png) [@Cpt\_Shinji](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cpt_Shinji)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2024, 12:45am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-type-of-personal-station-in-belts/450612/68 "2024-05-29T00:45:31Z")

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That is not at all what I want. You are trippin. I am not wanting this added to be this amazing high sec isk maker. It would be no more lucrative than an extra level 4 mission every day, but basically a guaranteed roll on which one you will get. To clarify I mean that you frequently have to deny or get lucky on what level 4 you get in order for it to be profitable, this would be a guaranteed quality mission, similar to a 5/10 site.

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**Author:** ![Cpt\_Shinji](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cpt_shinji/32/422100_2.png) [@Cpt\_Shinji](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cpt_Shinji)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2024, 12:46am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-type-of-personal-station-in-belts/450612/69 "2024-05-29T00:46:28Z")

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It isn’t an inflated injection of isk, it is a new method, nothing about what I am suggesting would mess with the economy. Players could easily just do normal missions instead, but that could hurt their standings with the empires, and also they may struggle to get a well paying mission. A successful station of this type would guarantee 1 good mission a day which really isnt that much and that is my point, but it would be a fun thing to have in my opinion, similar to PI.

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**Author:** ![Andlaust](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/andlaust/32/422007_2.png) [@Andlaust](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Andlaust)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2024, 12:49am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-type-of-personal-station-in-belts/450612/70 "2024-05-29T00:49:47Z")

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You literally want this station to mine 24/7 for you and give you a lvl 4 mission every day, but claim it isn’t an injection of isk? Do you even listen to yourself? You may not think so until you multiply your station by 15,000 players.

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**Author:** ![Cpt\_Shinji](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cpt_shinji/32/422100_2.png) [@Cpt\_Shinji](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cpt_Shinji)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2024, 12:50am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-type-of-personal-station-in-belts/450612/71 "2024-05-29T00:50:11Z")

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I want to add that fundamentally I disagree that these things would be as hunted as people believe, especially with the isk worth I am valuing these things at in my mind which hasn’t been expressed and should be.

I imagine these costing about 65mil.

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**Author:** ![ISD\_Drew](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/isd_drew/32/395254_2.png) [@ISD\_Drew](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ISD_Drew)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2024, 12:50am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-type-of-personal-station-in-belts/450612/72 "2024-05-29T00:50:52Z")

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bumped to [Player Features & Ideas - EVE Online Forums](https://forums.eveonline.com/c/technology-research/player-features-ideas/74)

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**Author:** ![Eternus8lux8lucis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/eternus8lux8lucis/32/385152_2.png) [@Eternus8lux8lucis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Eternus8lux8lucis)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2024, 12:51am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-type-of-personal-station-in-belts/450612/73 "2024-05-29T00:51:35Z")

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Okay 1 good mission a day? Do you have to be Omega to set this up? Cuz if not I can just make alpha accounts out my bu\*\*hole, which some people already have, and spam them around an entire region and take it all, anyone starts attacking one and my ESI screams at me and I send my ganker crew to take care of the blinged out BS, while I farm them for faction spawns devaluing the faction markets, and then go sell my ore. 1 good Lvl 4, depending on what you call good, can be anywhere from 10-50mil.

Just no.

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**Author:** ![Andlaust](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/andlaust/32/422007_2.png) [@Andlaust](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Andlaust)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2024, 12:52am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-type-of-personal-station-in-belts/450612/74 "2024-05-29T00:52:29Z")

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People not hunting them means their cancer metastasizes eve faster. So your idea is either a cancer on the game that needs to be excised on a daily basis, but if it is excised on a daily basis, then you idea becomes utterly pointless.

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**Author:** ![Cpt\_Shinji](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cpt_shinji/32/422100_2.png) [@Cpt\_Shinji](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cpt_Shinji)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2024, 12:52am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-type-of-personal-station-in-belts/450612/75 "2024-05-29T00:52:33Z")

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It would only mine like 10mil of ore a day or so, at least that is what I have imagined. I really can not imagine this offsetting the economy that much. Especially with it being attackable.

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**Author:** ![Cpt\_Shinji](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cpt_shinji/32/422100_2.png) [@Cpt\_Shinji](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cpt_Shinji)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2024, 12:54am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-type-of-personal-station-in-belts/450612/76 "2024-05-29T00:54:52Z")

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I get that you 3 here feel like it may not be something you would find fun to engage with, but I think it would be and ive found others who agree, so at least I know I am not entirely insane liking the idea of this cheap small outpost individuals could interact with in belts in high sec. These would ALSO be placeable in low and null, and I really think they may be something that survives longer than you guys have suggested. I don’t think it would be lucrative enough for people to hunt these things all day.

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**Author:** ![Cpt\_Shinji](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cpt_shinji/32/422100_2.png) [@Cpt\_Shinji](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cpt_Shinji)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2024, 12:56am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-type-of-personal-station-in-belts/450612/77 "2024-05-29T00:56:36Z")

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Also to be clear, I am sure there are things I have not thought of that may need to be worked out. Balanced in some way, but simply saying “It could never work in any way” is a bit extreme, imo.

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**Author:** ![Andlaust](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/andlaust/32/422007_2.png) [@Andlaust](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Andlaust)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2024, 1:04am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-type-of-personal-station-in-belts/450612/78 "2024-05-29T01:04:13Z")

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What’s clear is that despite claiming to have played EvE for almost as long as I have, you don’t seem to have any grasp of the realities of this game or the average mentality of the player base.

Unfortunately, it is also clear that you’re not going to listen to anyone, no matter what they tell you, that doesn’t support your idea 100%.

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**Author:** ![Cpt\_Shinji](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cpt_shinji/32/422100_2.png) [@Cpt\_Shinji](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cpt_Shinji)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2024, 1:07am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-type-of-personal-station-in-belts/450612/79 "2024-05-29T01:07:46Z")

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How in the world are you getting this out of what I am saying? Lmao. This has now degraded into insults and I am basically over it. Forums were a bad idea. xD

I have plenty of experience, in null, in FW and in high sec missioning and mining, I just disagree with a few points, but also agree that the feature needs refining, just not refining in the form of directly insulting me to prove it is entirely impossible regardless of any balancing I am literally agreeing as we speak that it probably needs.

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**Author:** ![Cpt\_Shinji](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cpt_shinji/32/422100_2.png) [@Cpt\_Shinji](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cpt_Shinji)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2024, 1:14am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-type-of-personal-station-in-belts/450612/80 "2024-05-29T01:14:06Z")

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Yeah it should be omega.

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