# New Wardec mechanics - can't wait! **URL:** \ **Category:** Player Features & Ideas\ **Created:** [June 21, 2018, 2:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-wardec-mechanics-cant-wait/84378 "2018-06-21T14:56:28Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 30
**Author:** ![MinerArt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/minerart/32/33728_2.png) [@MinerArt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MinerArt)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2018, 6:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-wardec-mechanics-cant-wait/84378/582 "2018-06-28T18:09:11Z")
> [@Whitehound](#): > > So what is it? is it tied to the timer or is it not? You already know and already said the answer in this very thread. Lets use the way back to (yesterday) machine. You quoted me here with more cherry picking: > [@Whitehound](#): > > * * * Where I explained in full: > [@MinerArt](#): > > Shooting it would do damage and alert your corp that someone is attacking it. It is involved in a war. Maybe the person who’s shooting it’s war, maybe not theirs, decoy tactics are 100% legit and nothing is stopping you from deploying more than 1. Blowing it up is immediate loss of it’s intel ability as you need to go to it to get the intel. War timer continues until time expires. If another object is deployed (and still fueled) war continues. Intel switch from A to B happens at war end cycle time where it takes over. If someone is intelligent and figures out all your devices involved in their war and blows them up right before war timer ends and you have nothing left to continue the war well that’s just damed good tactics. But you decided to ignore the full statement and only quote: > [@MinerArt](#): > > Blowing it up is immediate loss of it’s intel ability as you need to go to it to get the intel. War timer continues until time expires. Now if you’re going to troll about things you have DIRECTLY QUOTED by choosing to forget them in full because they contradict your bias then you’re done because you can’t argue. ---
**Author:** ![Dom\_Arkaral](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dom_arkaral/32/462611_2.png) [@Dom\_Arkaral](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dom_Arkaral)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2018, 6:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-wardec-mechanics-cant-wait/84378/583 "2018-06-28T18:09:33Z")
This thread is based on heresay It’s not based on anything said by CCP so really no one cares It needs to die for that simple fact You two have been arguing for over a day now, might as well get a room and make out… ---
**Author:** ![Whitehound](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/whitehound/32/59604_2.png) [@Whitehound](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Whitehound)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2018, 6:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-wardec-mechanics-cant-wait/84378/584 "2018-06-28T18:13:09Z")
> [@MinerArt](#): > > You already know. No, I’m asking you, because you keep dodging the question. You then write a lot, like saying it continues and in another sentence further down do you then contradict your statement and say it doesn’t. So I don’t know. ---
**Author:** ![MinerArt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/minerart/32/33728_2.png) [@MinerArt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MinerArt)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2018, 6:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-wardec-mechanics-cant-wait/84378/585 "2018-06-28T18:13:52Z")
> [@Whitehound](#): > > No, I’m asking you, because you keep dodging the question > [@MinerArt](#): > > Now if you’re going to troll about things you have DIRECTLY QUOTED by choosing to forget them in full because they contradict your bias then you’re done because you can’t argue. Answered already. ---
**Author:** ![Whitehound](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/whitehound/32/59604_2.png) [@Whitehound](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Whitehound)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2018, 6:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-wardec-mechanics-cant-wait/84378/586 "2018-06-28T18:15:28Z")
> [@MinerArt](#): > > Answered already. I’m afraid, you didn’t. You need to make this simpler for me. Is it or is it not tied to it? ---
**Author:** ![MinerArt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/minerart/32/33728_2.png) [@MinerArt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MinerArt)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2018, 6:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-wardec-mechanics-cant-wait/84378/587 "2018-06-28T18:15:52Z")
> [@Whitehound](#): > > I’m afraid, you didn’t. ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/7/d/7d81eba08e10b7dd14348694862bfca41647f0d7.jpg) Goodbye then. To avoid extending the thread: [https://forums.eveonline.com/guidelines#agreeable](https://forums.eveonline.com/guidelines#agreeable) > You may wish to respond to something by disagreeing with it. That’s fine. But, remember to criticize ideas, not people. Please avoid: > Knee-jerk contradiction. ---
**Author:** ![Whitehound](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/whitehound/32/59604_2.png) [@Whitehound](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Whitehound)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2018, 6:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-wardec-mechanics-cant-wait/84378/588 "2018-06-28T18:16:16Z")
> [@MinerArt](#): > > Goodbye then. Even the US president answers questions, only you don’t. Bye-bye! ---
**Author:** ![MinerArt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/minerart/32/33728_2.png) [@MinerArt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MinerArt)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2018, 5:18am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-wardec-mechanics-cant-wait/84378/589 "2018-06-29T05:18:01Z")
> [@Whitehound](#): > > Even the US president answers questions, only you don’t. > **[Trump Refuses to Let CNN’s Jim Acosta Ask Question: ‘You’re Fake News!’](https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-refuses-to-let-cnns-jim-acosta-ask-question-youre-fake-news)** > > “Your organization is terrible,” he shouted at reporter. Interesting statement. So when you refuse an answer does that make you worse? To announce that there must be no criticism of the president… is morally treasonable to the American public. -Theodore Roosevelt. ---
**Author:** ![Whitehound](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/whitehound/32/59604_2.png) [@Whitehound](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Whitehound)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2018, 5:59am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-wardec-mechanics-cant-wait/84378/590 "2018-06-29T05:59:33Z")
> [@MinerArt](#): > > So when you refuse an answer does that make you worse? Yes. Here is a question for you. Do you know what the two most commonly and most simple answers to a question are? Yes. No. ---
**Author:** ![MinerArt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/minerart/32/33728_2.png) [@MinerArt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MinerArt)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2018, 6:01am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-wardec-mechanics-cant-wait/84378/591 "2018-06-29T06:01:07Z")
> [@Whitehound](#): > > Do you know what the two most commonly and most simple answers to a question are? > > Yes. > No. > [@MinerArt](#): > > Nothing is stopping you from continuing the war. Pay for it. Items instead of ISK. That is the change. Then when you have been answered and choose to deny that answer because you refuse to listen you confirm you are wrong. ---
**Author:** ![Whitehound](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/whitehound/32/59604_2.png) [@Whitehound](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Whitehound)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2018, 6:04am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-wardec-mechanics-cant-wait/84378/592 "2018-06-29T06:04:56Z")
> [@MinerArt](#): > > > [@Whitehound](#): > > > > Do you know what the two most commonly and most simple answers to a question are? > > > > Yes. > > No. > > > [@MinerArt](#): > > > > … rant … We now know what your problem is. You fail to answer a question with a simple Yes and No. Ergo: > [@](#): > > You may wish to respond to something by disagreeing with it. That’s fine. But, remember to criticize ideas, not people. Please avoid: > Knee-jerk contradiction. ---
**Author:** ![MinerArt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/minerart/32/33728_2.png) [@MinerArt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MinerArt)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2018, 6:06am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-wardec-mechanics-cant-wait/84378/593 "2018-06-29T06:06:13Z")
> [@Whitehound](#): > > We now know what your problem is. You fail to answer a question with a simple Yes and No. Thank you for ignoring me. Proves you can’t contradict the facts. In addition you are now well beyond open trolling. ---
**Author:** ![Whitehound](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/whitehound/32/59604_2.png) [@Whitehound](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Whitehound)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2018, 6:08am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-wardec-mechanics-cant-wait/84378/594 "2018-06-29T06:08:36Z")
> [@MinerArt](#): > > Thank you for ignoring me. I have asked you a question, which you can asnwer with a simple Yes or No. When you fail at giving answers, then you’re not interested in a discussion and are not willing to provide meaningful responses. We can try this again of course… Is the object tied to the wardec timer (Yes) or is it not (No)? Yes No ---
**Author:** ![MinerArt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/minerart/32/33728_2.png) [@MinerArt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MinerArt)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2018, 6:11am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-wardec-mechanics-cant-wait/84378/595 "2018-06-29T06:11:39Z")
> [@Whitehound](#): > > Is the object tied to the wardec timer or is it not? Yes. It starts your war. Now you’re going to ask it again. You are also going to ignore it again. > [@MinerArt](#): > > Nothing is stopping you from continuing the war. Pay for it. Items instead of ISK. That is the change ---
**Author:** ![Whitehound](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/whitehound/32/59604_2.png) [@Whitehound](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Whitehound)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2018, 6:12am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-wardec-mechanics-cant-wait/84378/596 "2018-06-29T06:12:35Z")
> [@MinerArt](#): > > Yes. Thank you very much for your kind answer, Sir. May I ask a follow-up question, please? Yes No ---
**Author:** ![MinerArt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/minerart/32/33728_2.png) [@MinerArt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MinerArt)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2018, 6:13am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-wardec-mechanics-cant-wait/84378/597 "2018-06-29T06:13:11Z")
> [@Whitehound](#): > > May I ask a follow-up question, please? > > Yes > No > **[Rhetorical question](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhetorical_question)** > > A rhetorical question is a question asked for a purpose other than to obtain information. In many cases it may be intended to start a discourse, or as a means of displaying or emphasizing the speaker's or author's opinion on a topic. > A simple example is the question "Can't you do anything right?" This question is intended not to ask about the listener's ability but rather to insinuate the listener's lack of ability. > A rhetorical question may be intended as a challenge. The question is often dif... ---
**Author:** ![Whitehound](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/whitehound/32/59604_2.png) [@Whitehound](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Whitehound)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2018, 6:14am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-wardec-mechanics-cant-wait/84378/598 "2018-06-29T06:14:23Z")
And just when I thought we could have a meaningful conversation do you fall flat on your face. You’re amazing! 🤣 ---
**Author:** ![MinerArt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/minerart/32/33728_2.png) [@MinerArt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MinerArt)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2018, 6:15am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-wardec-mechanics-cant-wait/84378/599 "2018-06-29T06:15:26Z")
> [@Whitehound](#): > > And just when I thought we could have a meaningful conversation do you fall flat on your face. > > You’re amazing! 🤣 You can stop asking rhetorical questions then. You ask “may I ask a follow-up question, please?” is literally a follow up question. ---
**Author:** ![Whitehound](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/whitehound/32/59604_2.png) [@Whitehound](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Whitehound)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2018, 6:16am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-wardec-mechanics-cant-wait/84378/600 "2018-06-29T06:16:40Z")
I take that as a No. I wish you’d have said Yes. ---
**Author:** ![MinerArt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/minerart/32/33728_2.png) [@MinerArt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MinerArt)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2018, 6:17am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-wardec-mechanics-cant-wait/84378/601 "2018-06-29T06:17:05Z")
> [@Whitehound](#): > > I take that as a No. > > I wish you’d have said Yes. Then you’re not listening. Ask another question. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-wardec-mechanics-cant-wait/84378.md?page=29) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-wardec-mechanics-cant-wait/84378.md?page=31)