# New Wardec mechanics - can't wait! **URL:** \ **Category:** Player Features & Ideas\ **Created:** [June 21, 2018, 2:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-wardec-mechanics-cant-wait/84378 "2018-06-21T14:56:28Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 39
**Author:** ![Black\_Pedro](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/black_pedro/32/257285_2.png) [@Black\_Pedro](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Black_Pedro)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2018, 8:45am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-wardec-mechanics-cant-wait/84378/762 "2018-07-01T08:45:15Z")
> [@Calcinus](#): > > Wars should mean something besides mass griefing people travelling through the main pipes or camping the hubs. Why shouldn’t wars be used to deny people access to trade hubs? Seems a complete rational and effective strategy to disrupt your opponent. ---
**Author:** ![Whitehound](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/whitehound/32/59604_2.png) [@Whitehound](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Whitehound)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2018, 8:48am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-wardec-mechanics-cant-wait/84378/763 "2018-07-01T08:48:59Z")
> [@Black\_Pedro](#): > > > [@Calcinus](#): > > > > Wars should mean something besides mass griefing people travelling through the main pipes or camping the hubs. > > Why shouldn’t wars be used to deny people access to trade hubs? Seems a complete rational and effective strategy to disrupt your opponent. And it works both ways. If your opponent cannot think of any other strategy, but to hang around market hubs then you know where they are, too, and can avoid them easily or make them dock up or get them to smack-talk in a market hubs’ local chat. ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2018, 9:04am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-wardec-mechanics-cant-wait/84378/764 "2018-07-01T09:04:10Z")
> [@Black\_Pedro](#): > > Why shouldn’t wars be used to deny people access to trade hubs? Seems a complete rational and effective strategy to disrupt your opponent. It seems to be the end strategy in fact… ---
**Author:** ![Saeger1737](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/saeger1737/32/459629_2.png) [@Saeger1737](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Saeger1737)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2018, 1:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-wardec-mechanics-cant-wait/84378/765 "2018-07-01T13:08:49Z")
People still whining about this stuff… How many threads can be made about the same topics before they get there own sub theead ---
**Author:** ![Sukara\_Vespara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sukara_vespara/32/67617_2.png) [@Sukara\_Vespara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sukara_Vespara)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2018, 1:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-wardec-mechanics-cant-wait/84378/766 "2018-07-01T13:09:19Z")
Under current mechanics this would mean no citadels ever get destroyed in hisec. Seriously people, at least think of the wider consequences of what you suggest. ---
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2018, 1:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-wardec-mechanics-cant-wait/84378/767 "2018-07-01T13:16:09Z")
This will never be resolved. All parties are cockblocking each other. Suicide gankers, mass wardeccers, solo pirates, mercs, NS or HS based carebear alts etc will never find common ground on this. ---
**Author:** ![Sukara\_Vespara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sukara_vespara/32/67617_2.png) [@Sukara\_Vespara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sukara_Vespara)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2018, 1:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-wardec-mechanics-cant-wait/84378/768 "2018-07-01T13:22:03Z")
As I’ve said, there have been no really viable suggestions put forward that wouldn’t either impact other areas of the game, be exploitable, or result in any change to the meta. Until serious, viable suggestions are put forward or CCP have a good plan, i would hope that no significant changes are made ---
**Author:** ![Whitehound](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/whitehound/32/59604_2.png) [@Whitehound](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Whitehound)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2018, 1:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-wardec-mechanics-cant-wait/84378/769 "2018-07-01T13:27:19Z")
> [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#): > > All parties are cockblocking each other. > > Suicide gankers, mass wardeccers, solo pirates, mercs, NS or HS based carebear alts etc will never find common ground on this. You talk of common ground as if one could create it by boxing everyone in. It’s not how a common ground works. ---
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2018, 1:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-wardec-mechanics-cant-wait/84378/770 "2018-07-01T13:39:32Z")
Dunno what you mean by “boxing in”. Im just stating based on observation that there are too many disparate and conflicting interests for them to ever agree on what to change regarding wardec mechanics. ---
**Author:** ![Whitehound](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/whitehound/32/59604_2.png) [@Whitehound](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Whitehound)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2018, 1:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-wardec-mechanics-cant-wait/84378/771 "2018-07-01T13:42:27Z")
> [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#): > > Dunno what you mean by “boxing in”. You said “cockblocking”, and unless this was only a pointless rhetorical extravaganza, does it mean you believe there is a way where everyone somehow “uncockblocks”. ---
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2018, 1:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-wardec-mechanics-cant-wait/84378/772 "2018-07-01T13:45:06Z")
It has been said that the best compromise is one nobody is happy with, but everyone can live with. ---
**Author:** ![Whitehound](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/whitehound/32/59604_2.png) [@Whitehound](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Whitehound)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2018, 1:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-wardec-mechanics-cant-wait/84378/773 "2018-07-01T13:51:30Z")
> [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#): > > It has been said that the best compromise is one nobody is happy with, but everyone can live with. That’s only cynical. There will always be someone unhappy with something. I’d do it like a farmer. Keep different animals on different grounds and only put those together that can accept each other. Or you just end up with a smaller farm. (And yes, I just did compare every EVE player to an animal. 🐒🦍🐕🐩🦊🐈🦁🐅🐎🐄) ---
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2018, 1:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-wardec-mechanics-cant-wait/84378/774 "2018-07-01T13:55:30Z")
> [@Whitehound](#): > > That’s only cynical. There will always be someone unhappy with something > [@Whitehound](#): > > does it mean you believe there is a way where everyone somehow “uncockblocks Do you believe there is a solution that makes everyone happy? ---
**Author:** ![Whitehound](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/whitehound/32/59604_2.png) [@Whitehound](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Whitehound)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2018, 2:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-wardec-mechanics-cant-wait/84378/775 "2018-07-01T14:01:57Z")
> [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#): > > Do you believe there is a solution that makes everyone happy? Like I said, there will always be someone who is unhappy with something. One can however try to aim for a solution, which gives everyone a bit of something and make them a bit happier. You start by looking at what everyone wants, look for small adjustments, which cause the least resistance as if trying to find a path in the dark and tip-toeing your way to an unknown destination. Hence I like the idea of social corps and intel gathering devices. They sound like small steps of little resistance while we will never fully know where it ultimately leads us. But if it makes a lot of players a bit happier then this cannot be so bad. ---
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2018, 2:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-wardec-mechanics-cant-wait/84378/776 "2018-07-01T14:06:51Z")
> [@Whitehound](#): > > You start by looking at what everyone wants, look for small adjustments, which cause the least resistance as if trying to find a path in the dark and tip-toeing your way to an unknown destination. Go ahead and try that then. > [@Whitehound](#): > > Hence I like the idea of social corps and intel gathering devices. Start a thread on those, and see what happens. ---
**Author:** ![Whitehound](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/whitehound/32/59604_2.png) [@Whitehound](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Whitehound)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2018, 2:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-wardec-mechanics-cant-wait/84378/777 "2018-07-01T14:13:03Z")
> [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#): > > Start a thread on those, and see what happens. I could, but it’s not about me and I’m fine with how the game is. But if anyone wants these they’ll have my vote. ---
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2018, 2:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-wardec-mechanics-cant-wait/84378/778 "2018-07-01T14:17:17Z")
> [@Whitehound](#): > > but it’s not about me and I’m fine with how the game is Its not about any individual. Ita not about you being fine with as is now. Its to do with the groups I named all having disparate/conflicting interests, thus cockblocking each other. Finally see what I mean after we rode the carousel a time around and ended up where we began? ---
**Author:** ![Whitehound](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/whitehound/32/59604_2.png) [@Whitehound](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Whitehound)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2018, 2:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-wardec-mechanics-cant-wait/84378/779 "2018-07-01T14:19:21Z")
> [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#): > > Its not about any individual. > Ita not about you being fine with as is now. It’s my response to your suggestion to make threads on it in Features & Ideas. Also, I’m not seeing what you’re seeing. It’s just a path in the dark as I said. ---
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2018, 2:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-wardec-mechanics-cant-wait/84378/780 "2018-07-01T14:26:26Z")
> [@Whitehound](#): > > Also, I’m not seeing what you’re seeing. It’s just a path in the dark as I said. Try it. You will find that dark is full of obstacles and everyone from the groups antgonistic to your view will attack you and try to push you off your toed trail towards the goal of compromise. Do it. See and experience it for yourself. ---
**Author:** ![Whitehound](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/whitehound/32/59604_2.png) [@Whitehound](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Whitehound)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2018, 2:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-wardec-mechanics-cant-wait/84378/781 "2018-07-01T14:27:51Z")
> [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#): > > You will find that dark is full of obstacles and everyone from the groups antgonistic to your view will attack you and try to push you off your toed trail towards the goal of compromise. That’s the EVE I know. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-wardec-mechanics-cant-wait/84378.md?page=38) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-wardec-mechanics-cant-wait/84378.md?page=40)