# New Wardec mechanics - can't wait! **URL:** \ **Category:** Player Features & Ideas\ **Created:** [June 21, 2018, 2:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-wardec-mechanics-cant-wait/84378 "2018-06-21T14:56:28Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![Ima\_Wreckyou](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ima_wreckyou/32/235531_2.png) [@Ima\_Wreckyou](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ima_Wreckyou)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2018, 2:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-wardec-mechanics-cant-wait/84378/121 "2018-06-24T14:11:26Z")
At some point you should probably think about what problem you actually try to solve here. ---
**Author:** ![Whitehound](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/whitehound/32/59604_2.png) [@Whitehound](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Whitehound)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2018, 2:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-wardec-mechanics-cant-wait/84378/122 "2018-06-24T14:12:11Z")
> [@Nana\_Skalski](#): > > Alternative solution is to give minimal size of corp to be wardeccable, like maybe 50 people. If this comes with some restrictions on what those with less than 50 members can do then I would agree with you and find it doable. ---
**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2018, 2:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-wardec-mechanics-cant-wait/84378/123 "2018-06-24T14:15:21Z")
I mean corporation COULD choose that option. To not be wardeccable for 50 members. But they could go and wardec other larger corporations in any minute and that would make them wardecable in return until the wars ended or they surenderred. Space guerilla. ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2018, 2:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-wardec-mechanics-cant-wait/84378/124 "2018-06-24T14:18:13Z")
> [@Dom\_Arkaral](#): > > Thats In _ **NULLSEC** _ where _ **PEOPLE** _ own the space you dum dum My dear boy, Ima said it in general, never mentioned hisec so this should help: > [@Ima\_Wreckyou](#): > > I just don’t think this will stop the complaints at all. Also structure warfare is just shite an no one with a RL has time to fight a station with three timers which will drop nothing at all. It is all about strategic reasons my dear boy, do try to keep up, and that is what my proposal is all about… ---
**Author:** ![Ima\_Wreckyou](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ima_wreckyou/32/235531_2.png) [@Ima\_Wreckyou](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ima_Wreckyou)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2018, 2:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-wardec-mechanics-cant-wait/84378/125 "2018-06-24T14:20:51Z")
Yeah but we where talking about wardecs and that is really only relevant in highsec. ---
**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2018, 2:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-wardec-mechanics-cant-wait/84378/126 "2018-06-24T14:22:46Z")
I have a new job for CCP, to finally write, redact and publish the Yulai Convention text. ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2018, 2:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-wardec-mechanics-cant-wait/84378/127 "2018-06-24T14:26:09Z")
> [@Ima\_Wreckyou](#): > > Yeah but we where talking about wardecs and that is really only relevant in highsec. So you make a general statement that has no merit when I am suggesting a strategic change to structures in hisec that create a reason, do keep up, or shut up! And that applies to your lap dog too. Let me reapt it so you get it, no mention of hisec: > [@Ima\_Wreckyou](#): > > just don’t think this will stop the complaints at all. Also structure warfare is just shite an no one with a RL has time to fight a station with three timers which will drop nothing at all. Your comment is aboutr structure warfare in general when I am proposing to tie war decs above 4 in number to a concord agent in a citadel. I read your comment as in general about structure warfare and as a strategic objective they get destroyed, hisec will now have a strategic value. If you cannot get that then there is no hope for you! ---
**Author:** ![Whitehound](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/whitehound/32/59604_2.png) [@Whitehound](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Whitehound)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2018, 2:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-wardec-mechanics-cant-wait/84378/128 "2018-06-24T14:26:16Z")
> [@Ima\_Wreckyou](#): > > Yeah but we where talking about wardecs and that is really only relevant in highsec. Yes. The whole issue is only with high-sec obviously. And I’m disliking how those who want to create wars are being already restricted by cost and people wanting to add more restrictions to it. War has never been pretty and trying to make it pretty is just absurd. ---
**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2018, 2:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-wardec-mechanics-cant-wait/84378/129 "2018-06-24T14:26:52Z")
> [@Whitehound](#): > > War has never been pretty Wasnt cheap either. 😏 ---
**Author:** ![Nico\_Boru](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nico_boru/32/64941_2.png) [@Nico\_Boru](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nico_Boru)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2018, 2:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-wardec-mechanics-cant-wait/84378/130 "2018-06-24T14:27:16Z")
Heres an idea, leave them alone. Just make structures easier to kill to provide more content for deccers, more reason to fight back for deccees. That will lead to more people playing the game as intended, interacting with each other, new corps being made and some broken along with possible upheavals of standing groups leading to changes of the political landscape. ---
**Author:** ![Whitehound](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/whitehound/32/59604_2.png) [@Whitehound](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Whitehound)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2018, 2:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-wardec-mechanics-cant-wait/84378/131 "2018-06-24T14:30:12Z")
> [@Nana\_Skalski](#): > > Wasnt cheap either. 😏 No, not necessarily. A quick surrender can be very cheap. The cost should ideally only be the loss of ships and structures so that those who produce perfect wins can come out with no cost and only loot. ---
**Author:** ![Ima\_Wreckyou](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ima_wreckyou/32/235531_2.png) [@Ima\_Wreckyou](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ima_Wreckyou)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2018, 2:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-wardec-mechanics-cant-wait/84378/132 "2018-06-24T14:35:53Z")
> [@Dracvlad](#): > > do keep up, or shut up! And that applies to your lap dog too. Wow, seriously what is your problem? I said tying structures to wardecs is ■■■■ because killing structures is in my opinion boring because it has three timers and it drops nothing. Maybe its super interesting in null, but I really don’t care since we are talking about wardecs here which is something that only makes sense in highsec. ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2018, 2:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-wardec-mechanics-cant-wait/84378/133 "2018-06-24T14:38:21Z")
> [@Ima\_Wreckyou](#): > > I said tying structures to wardecs is ■■■■ because killing structures is in my opinion boring because it has three timers and it drops nothing. Maybe its super interesting in null, but I really don’t care since we are talking about wardecs here which is something that only makes sense in highsec. You are deliberately being dumb, like dum dum, the thing is that I am tying in the ability to do more than 4 war decs to a citadel. It becomes more than what you are complaining about as I said, it becomes a strategic objective just like those in nullsec which is a base of operations, do keep up, engage brain, and answer with brain engaged. ---
**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2018, 2:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-wardec-mechanics-cant-wait/84378/134 "2018-06-24T14:39:56Z")
I was thinking, maybe lets just tell CONCORD to see what is the generl wealth of the corporations and those who are in certain class could not wardec the lower class corps. Sort of corp ranking system. ---
**Author:** ![Whitehound](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/whitehound/32/59604_2.png) [@Whitehound](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Whitehound)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2018, 2:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-wardec-mechanics-cant-wait/84378/135 "2018-06-24T14:52:27Z")
> [@Nana\_Skalski](#): > > I was thinking, maybe lets just tell CONCORD to see what is the generl wealth of the corporations and those who are in certain class could not wardec the lower class corps. Sort of corp ranking system. I get the idea, but it is so not EVE. EVE is still a sandbox game and as such should anything be possible, at least ideally and theoretically. If you let, say, allow a corporation to fight anyone above their rank and anyone below them up to 10 ranks lower, just as an example, then this also means that the top-ranked corporation can only fight at most 10, because they only are allowed to fight at most 10 lower ranked ones and otherwise have nobody above them. This means the top-ranked corporation has less options than those in the middle. Ideas like these just make me itch. They seem right on the first sight, but then it reeks of control and regulation and limitation that nobody is going to have any fun in the end. Allow players to chase the perfect dream. Let them aim for total dominance and let them be as bad and evil as they can be. ---
**Author:** ![Ima\_Wreckyou](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ima_wreckyou/32/235531_2.png) [@Ima\_Wreckyou](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ima_Wreckyou)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2018, 2:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-wardec-mechanics-cant-wait/84378/136 "2018-06-24T14:56:24Z")
> [@Dracvlad](#): > > You are deliberately being dumb, like dum dum > [@Dracvlad](#): > > engage brain, and answer with brain engaged. Man what is wrong with you? I even wrote that to Whitehound and not to you. This was not about your idea. with the office but about making structure bashing a part oft wardecs because I think that’s ■■■■ and removes another game mechanic for casual players who don’t have the time to bash structures. ---
**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2018, 2:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-wardec-mechanics-cant-wait/84378/137 "2018-06-24T14:56:52Z")
> [@Whitehound](#): > > nobody is going to have any fun in the end When people just resign without fight, that is not fun either. But you got a right impression it would be not made by CCP. CCP is all about non-balance. 🤣 The war mechanics is the stuff that is iike Kestrels that could fit torpedo launchers. Just fixing that was a lot easier than fixing war mechanic. ---
**Author:** ![Whitehound](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/whitehound/32/59604_2.png) [@Whitehound](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Whitehound)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2018, 3:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-wardec-mechanics-cant-wait/84378/138 "2018-06-24T15:02:20Z")
> [@Nana\_Skalski](#): > > When people just resign without fight, that is not fun either. But you got a right impression it would be not made by CCP. CCP is all about non-balance. 🤣 It is not fun for anyone when a war target bails out and falls back into an NPC corporation. Most aggressors no longer care and they choose the spam method as this produces the desired result. The problem really is that we have too many corporations, but not enough willing to participate in corporate warfare. And this is because players don’t want to hang out in NPC corporations forever, but they want to be part of an organization (aka guild, corp, gang, etc.), which not necessarily takes part in high-sec warfare. This is what’s missing and I don’t see why we still haven’t gotten it yet. ---
**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2018, 3:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-wardec-mechanics-cant-wait/84378/139 "2018-06-24T15:05:37Z")
There was some talk about social corps before, but nothing was made I think towards that. Even lapsing to NPC corp that you would choose would be nice addition to the system I think, for RP reasons. ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2018, 3:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-wardec-mechanics-cant-wait/84378/140 "2018-06-24T15:08:26Z")
> [@Ima\_Wreckyou](#): > > Man what is wrong with you? I even wrote that to Whitehound and not to you. This was not about your idea. with the office but about making structure bashing a part oft wardecs because I think that’s ■■■■ and removes another game mechanic for casual players who don’t have the time to bash structures. Acting as if you are the victim again: Blame your lap dog, but still this is a general statement. > [@Ima\_Wreckyou](#): > > Also structure warfare is just shite an no one with a RL has time to fight a station with three timers which will drop nothing at all. I pointed out that structures are blown up in nullsec for strategic reasons and if they have a specific strategic value in hisec in terms of having a concord agent that allows more than 4 war decs then they will be attacked for strategic reasons. And your lap dog said this: > [@Dom\_Arkaral](#): > > Thats In _ **NULLSEC** _ where _ **PEOPLE** _ own the space you dum dum > > Don’t compare apples to oranges… > Literally the dumbest argument you could have brought to a highsec wars thread so I replied this: > [@Dracvlad](#): > > My dear boy, Ima said it in general, never mentioned hisec so this should help: and this > [@Dracvlad](#): > > It is all about strategic reasons my dear boy, do try to keep up, and that is what my proposal is all about… To lap dog and you said this: > [@Ima\_Wreckyou](#): > > Yeah but we where talking about wardecs and that is really only relevant in highsec. My suggestion is about placing a CONCORD agent in a citadel to allow more than 4 war decs, you made a statement that there is no value in blowing up citadels never said hisec, but there is strategic value in nullsec which is why they get blown up, so if you add the strategic value in hisec as per my suggestion then they will be blown up. Rather easy to understand unless you are trying to be dense, or you have your head in a dark brown place. 😛 [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-wardec-mechanics-cant-wait/84378.md?page=6) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/new-wardec-mechanics-cant-wait/84378.md?page=8)