# \[NEWEL\] Obituary - Marshal Protector Alizabeth **URL:** \ **Category:** Intergalactic Summit\ **Created:** [April 26, 2019, 5:32am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/newel-obituary-marshal-protector-alizabeth/155180 "2019-04-26T05:32:35Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Samira\_Kernher](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/samira_kernher/32/244840_2.png) [@Samira\_Kernher](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Samira_Kernher)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2019, 7:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/newel-obituary-marshal-protector-alizabeth/155180/62 "2019-06-14T19:00:25Z")
> [@Alar\_Chakaid](#): > > A Holding, let’s not forget, that was earned with the direct aid of this Blooder they admitted into their highest military counsel and guard. Forgotten about [edeity](http://i.imgur.com/dywTCS5.png) so soon, my lord? You did, afterall, [name him as a candidate](https://forums-archive.eveonline.com/message/6103754/#post6103754) to serve as King Khanid’s champion during the Succession Trials. Indeed, had he won, you would have guaranteed the ennobling of a blood raider. Of course, when called on it, you [declined to consider it a problem](https://forums-archive.eveonline.com/message/6111619/#post6111619) at all. ---
**Author:** ![Genevieve\_Vea](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/genevieve_vea/32/140400_2.png) [@Genevieve\_Vea](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Genevieve_Vea)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2019, 7:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/newel-obituary-marshal-protector-alizabeth/155180/63 "2019-06-14T19:00:36Z")
> [@Alar\_Chakaid](#): > > So there it is, “Marshal Protector Alizabeth” is revealed as having been a Blooder in her own right. I can see why people think you’re an idiot. Marshal Protector Alizabeth was not a Blooder. Ever. She might have shared the same body as Alizabeth Vea, who was, however, Alizabeth, as she was in the service of Mitara Newelle wasn’t a blooder. I could go more in depth, but I have neither the time, not the crayons to explain it to you. I will point out that by the time Alizabeth died, she had killed more Blooders than you could possibly count (so at least more than 3). However, to put it into perspective, she had earned a perfect -10.00 standings and over 20 billion ISK in bounties. And she had killed multiple Blooder titans. Her final death came from a one-woman assault on a Crimson Paladin training base, where she killed a number of them before dying. Alizabeth was not Blooder. My sister had her flaws, but her revenant didn’t make the same mistakes. ---
**Author:** ![Alar\_Chakaid](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/alar_chakaid/32/179823_2.png) [@Alar\_Chakaid](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Alar_Chakaid)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2019, 7:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/newel-obituary-marshal-protector-alizabeth/155180/64 "2019-06-14T19:10:18Z")
The prattle of foreigners with not the smallest understanding of Scripture and the theological underpinnings of Holy Amarr is not germane in the slightest. Nor, indeed, is the heretical bile of an Ammatar traitor and apostate slave. Hiss your evil blasphemy elsewhere, terrorist, if anyone will have a degenerate cur like you. My point has been amply made. I trust that those with the wisdom and perspicacity of Royal Heirs and High Holders, such as His Majesty Farokh Khanid III and His Grace Arrach Sarum, will reach their own conclusions in the fullness of time. I have the honor to be, Alar Aga-Count Chakaid of Kahah III, Sa-Baron of Ves-Sefris, Zirsem V, Paladin Deacon, Orders Militant of the Theology Council, Plenipotentiary Representative of His Majesty Farokh Khanid III ---
**Author:** ![Genevieve\_Vea](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/genevieve_vea/32/140400_2.png) [@Genevieve\_Vea](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Genevieve_Vea)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2019, 7:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/newel-obituary-marshal-protector-alizabeth/155180/65 "2019-06-14T19:13:25Z")
> [@Alar\_Chakaid](#): > > The prattle of foreigners with not the smallest understanding of Scripture and the theological underpinnings of Holy Amarr is not germane in the slightest. I’ll be sure to let my fellow Caldari the Kingdom doesn’t care about them. ---
**Author:** ![Eclypt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/eclypt/32/272994_2.png) [@Eclypt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Eclypt)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2019, 7:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/newel-obituary-marshal-protector-alizabeth/155180/66 "2019-06-14T19:15:20Z")
Because of course every disparagement of an individual is also aimed at their entire nation. Don’t be so foolish. ---
**Author:** ![Arsia\_Elkin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arsia_elkin/32/388703_2.png) [@Arsia\_Elkin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arsia_Elkin)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2019, 7:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/newel-obituary-marshal-protector-alizabeth/155180/67 "2019-06-14T19:22:03Z")
> [@Alar\_Chakaid](#): > > Yet members of the Newelle Family, their retainers, liberal allies and Ammatar traitor and apostate connections have the gall to cast aspersions on the good name of His Majesty Farokh Khanid III. Then why are the blooders hit several of _us_ and not _our enemies?_ They seem to be focused on hitting _your enemies._ But you’ll just continue to deny the obvious and look for little bits and pieces that fit your narrative. I’m really growing tired of this. ---
**Author:** ![Eclypt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/eclypt/32/272994_2.png) [@Eclypt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Eclypt)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2019, 7:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/newel-obituary-marshal-protector-alizabeth/155180/68 "2019-06-14T19:28:27Z")
> [@Arsia\_Elkin](#): > > Then why are the blooders hit several of _us_ and not _our enemies?_ > > They seem to be focused on hitting _your enemies._ Hitting the Aga-Count’s political opponents, as if he had instructed it, is an excellent way to incite suspicion about him. ---
**Author:** ![Arsia\_Elkin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arsia_elkin/32/388703_2.png) [@Arsia\_Elkin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arsia_Elkin)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2019, 7:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/newel-obituary-marshal-protector-alizabeth/155180/69 "2019-06-14T19:30:58Z")
You have something on your nose. ---
**Author:** ![Eclypt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/eclypt/32/272994_2.png) [@Eclypt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Eclypt)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2019, 7:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/newel-obituary-marshal-protector-alizabeth/155180/70 "2019-06-14T19:32:30Z")
How childish. As expected. ---
**Author:** ![Nauplius](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nauplius/32/403015_2.png) [@Nauplius](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nauplius)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2019, 7:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/newel-obituary-marshal-protector-alizabeth/155180/71 "2019-06-14T19:40:07Z")
> [@Eclypt](#): > > Hitting the Aga-Count’s political opponents, as if he had instructed it, is an excellent way to incite suspicion about him. Exactly. False Flag operation. I wouldn’t at all be surprised if the wayward liberals were behind it. ---
**Author:** ![Eclypt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/eclypt/32/272994_2.png) [@Eclypt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Eclypt)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2019, 7:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/newel-obituary-marshal-protector-alizabeth/155180/72 "2019-06-14T19:40:57Z")
I would rather expect it to be the blood drinkers themselves, actually. ---
**Author:** ![Nauplius](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nauplius/32/403015_2.png) [@Nauplius](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nauplius)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2019, 7:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/newel-obituary-marshal-protector-alizabeth/155180/73 "2019-06-14T19:41:49Z")
Or a temporary alliance of expediency between both. ---
**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2019, 9:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/newel-obituary-marshal-protector-alizabeth/155180/74 "2019-06-14T21:37:32Z")
Well, that’s certainly rich coming from one of the many Khanid pilots who’ve expressed _exactly_ that sentiment whenever Chakaid’s nonsense is called out for the craven, pathetic whining that it is. ---
**Author:** ![Eclypt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/eclypt/32/272994_2.png) [@Eclypt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Eclypt)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2019, 9:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/newel-obituary-marshal-protector-alizabeth/155180/75 "2019-06-14T21:55:38Z")
I’m unsure what you’re trying to say? That I consider every attack on Chakaid an attack on Khanid? I can honestly say I don’t. However the two do seem so often to go hand in hand. ---
**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2019, 10:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/newel-obituary-marshal-protector-alizabeth/155180/76 "2019-06-14T22:26:06Z")
'No, no no, I _ **totally** _ don’t think that… that’d be hypocritical… … even if it’s true.’ Yep. 'bout sez it all there, don’t it? Thanks for illustrating it. ---
**Author:** ![Eclypt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/eclypt/32/272994_2.png) [@Eclypt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Eclypt)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2019, 10:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/newel-obituary-marshal-protector-alizabeth/155180/77 "2019-06-14T22:35:59Z")
That’s… not what I said. Here, let me simplify it for you, tribal. Clearly it needs spelling out. 1. An attack on Chakaid is an attack on Chakaid. 2. An Attack on Khanid is an attack on Khanid. 3. An attack on Chakaid _and_ Khanid is an attack on Chakaid _and_ Khanid. One, two, and three are separate, individual things. Often, rather than just including point One in their arguments, those opposed to the Aga-Count will instead include point Three. Does this penetrate your tiny, dense mind, or do I need something sharper? ---
**Author:** ![Aldrith\_Shutaq](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aldrith_shutaq/32/378618_2.png) [@Aldrith\_Shutaq](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aldrith_Shutaq)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2019, 11:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/newel-obituary-marshal-protector-alizabeth/155180/78 "2019-06-14T23:10:41Z")
Sin is a pit. Faith is a rope. Penance is the climb. Redemption is the light. I do not know if God has forgiven Alizabeth after her service and death. I _do_ know that my wife was not wrong to offer her the chance to make up for what Vea had done. I doubted the decision a thousand times, but by the end, I could not any longer. I will attribute Lord Chakaid’s words to ignorance rather than malice. I admit, even I do not know if it was the right choice. But it does feel like it was. Rest in peace, Alizabeth. I am sorry we could not have done more. Be free from your guilt, evermore. ---
**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2019, 11:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/newel-obituary-marshal-protector-alizabeth/155180/79 "2019-06-14T23:58:31Z")
Nice job on the whining backpedal. Your original statement, as with all the ones you’ve made beforehand, speaks for itself. ---
**Author:** ![Eclypt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/eclypt/32/272994_2.png) [@Eclypt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Eclypt)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2019, 12:01am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/newel-obituary-marshal-protector-alizabeth/155180/80 "2019-06-15T00:01:55Z")
Your failing to understand a simple concept does not constitute a “backpedal”. You regularly seem to require extra explanation; perhaps your schooling is inadequate? Or are you just slow? ---
**Author:** ![Solonius\_Rex](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solonius_rex/32/388172_2.png) [@Solonius\_Rex](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solonius_Rex)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2019, 12:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/newel-obituary-marshal-protector-alizabeth/155180/82 "2019-06-18T12:44:54Z")
Good riddance. Amarr slaver scum deserve all that they get and then some. The Gallente Killwatch and Black Eagles will be drinking a cup of non-alcoholic drinks in celebration of this good news. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/newel-obituary-marshal-protector-alizabeth/155180.md?page=3) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/newel-obituary-marshal-protector-alizabeth/155180.md?page=5)