# \[News, speculation!\] Twenty Fatalities in Poisoning Incident Aboard Rens Station, Weaponized Psychoactive Suspected **URL:** \ **Category:** Intergalactic Summit\ **Created:** [October 9, 2018, 11:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/news-speculation-twenty-fatalities-in-poisoning-incident-aboard-rens-station-weaponized-psychoactive-suspected/112214 "2018-10-09T23:02:19Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Isha\_Vuld](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/isha_vuld/32/470113_2.png) [@Isha\_Vuld](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Isha_Vuld)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2018, 11:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/news-speculation-twenty-fatalities-in-poisoning-incident-aboard-rens-station-weaponized-psychoactive-suspected/112214/1 "2018-10-09T23:02:19Z")
While it may have been buried in the recent slew of news reports, I trust most of you are aware that there was a [gas attack on board the Brutor Tribe Treasury](https://community.eveonline.com/news/news-channels/world-news/twenty-fatalities-in-poisoning-incident-aboard-rens-station-weaponized-psychoactive-suspected/) in Rens recently. This is obviously terrible news, and I have already received information that the obvious suspects are responsible, though I dare not make any claims personally right now. As somebody has already tried to donate supplies: If anyone wishes to assist I would be happy to pull whatever weight I have in the tribe to make sure you will be allowed to. Supplies would surely be welcomed, though I suspect the real need is going to be for helping hands as the many people displaced will be in need of shelter,care and food while the habitat area is being sweeped. I am personally doing what I can to assist with security and looking after those displaced, though the real work is being done by the marines and the SSR. Spirits be with them. And while food and medical supplies are not necessarily in short supply, volunteers to work with them sometimes can be. In the meantime, I don’t suppose anyone has any exciting theories on who might be responsible for this latest breach in peace? ---
**Author:** ![Diana\_Kim](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/diana_kim/32/382972_2.png) [@Diana\_Kim](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Diana_Kim)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2018, 11:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/news-speculation-twenty-fatalities-in-poisoning-incident-aboard-rens-station-weaponized-psychoactive-suspected/112214/2 "2018-10-09T23:34:49Z")
Hypothesis #1. Minmatar terrorists tried to use the gas against peaceful Amarr citizens, but improper vessel handling caused a leak. Hypothesis #2. It might be just some waste that reacted together and created such effect. Hypothesis #3, with just one word. Angels. ---
**Author:** ![Mizhara\_Del\_thul](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mizhara_del_thul/32/486150_2.png) [@Mizhara\_Del\_thul](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mizhara_Del_thul)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2018, 11:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/news-speculation-twenty-fatalities-in-poisoning-incident-aboard-rens-station-weaponized-psychoactive-suspected/112214/3 "2018-10-09T23:45:10Z")
We know who’s behind it. It is well in hand. ---
**Author:** ![Diana\_Kim](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/diana_kim/32/382972_2.png) [@Diana\_Kim](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Diana_Kim)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2018, 11:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/news-speculation-twenty-fatalities-in-poisoning-incident-aboard-rens-station-weaponized-psychoactive-suspected/112214/4 "2018-10-09T23:59:18Z")
Wait, was it just an admission of guilt?.. ---
**Author:** ![Samira\_Kernher](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/samira_kernher/32/244840_2.png) [@Samira\_Kernher](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Samira_Kernher)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2018, 12:02am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/news-speculation-twenty-fatalities-in-poisoning-incident-aboard-rens-station-weaponized-psychoactive-suspected/112214/5 "2018-10-10T00:02:13Z")
No. Minmatar weren’t behind it. I’ve been here since I first heard what happened, [and brought supplies](https://i.imgur.com/DCYGzx1.png). I’m very concerned over this incident, for personal reasons. ---
**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2018, 12:29am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/news-speculation-twenty-fatalities-in-poisoning-incident-aboard-rens-station-weaponized-psychoactive-suspected/112214/6 "2018-10-10T00:29:22Z")
Hang on, is that… Do you need anything else sent or brought? ---
**Author:** ![Isha\_Vuld](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/isha_vuld/32/470113_2.png) [@Isha\_Vuld](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Isha_Vuld)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2018, 12:34am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/news-speculation-twenty-fatalities-in-poisoning-incident-aboard-rens-station-weaponized-psychoactive-suspected/112214/7 "2018-10-10T00:34:41Z")
Food and medicine would help, as would manpower. Some of these people are likely to be in the care of volunteers for some time, particularly the ones whose homes where damaged. Hopefully the total number will end up being small. Unfortunately once a crisis disappears from the eye of the media, aid and donations also dry up, even though the aftermath of attacks or disasters can drag on for months or years. But if we have a small stockpile, then there shouldn’t be any problems on that front. ---
**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2018, 2:32am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/news-speculation-twenty-fatalities-in-poisoning-incident-aboard-rens-station-weaponized-psychoactive-suspected/112214/8 "2018-10-10T02:32:43Z")
There should be a CBRN team, security assets, supplies for them and any further injuries, as well as budgetary considerations for the longer-term if needed waiting to be received. ---
**Author:** ![Isha\_Vuld](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/isha_vuld/32/470113_2.png) [@Isha\_Vuld](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Isha_Vuld)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2018, 10:56am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/news-speculation-twenty-fatalities-in-poisoning-incident-aboard-rens-station-weaponized-psychoactive-suspected/112214/9 "2018-10-10T10:56:24Z")
> [@Arrendis](#): > > budgetary considerations for the longer-term if needed waiting to be received. This is honestly what I am most concerned about, and I will be keeping some ISK ready in case donations are needed. After all, it is my tribe. The Treasury is a prosperous station, and the security forces are more then capable of handling the situation and housing the displaced people in the short term, but in today’s galaxy, those who will be out of a house for a longer period do not always receive enough. Ideally, the clans of the affected will take care of them, but not everyone is blessed with a generous one. And some foreigners simply do not have one. Still, it is all under control right now, I think. Though it is still a tragedy for the twenty who already died. ---
**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2018, 3:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/news-speculation-twenty-fatalities-in-poisoning-incident-aboard-rens-station-weaponized-psychoactive-suspected/112214/10 "2018-10-10T15:16:50Z")
> [@Isha\_Vuld](#): > > This is honestly what I am most concerned about, and I will be keeping some ISK ready in case donations are needed. That’s why I included a quarter-billion in the contract with everything else. Let me know if you need more. ---
**Author:** ![Veskin\_Sentinel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/veskin_sentinel/32/506480_2.png) [@Veskin\_Sentinel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Veskin_Sentinel)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2018, 4:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/news-speculation-twenty-fatalities-in-poisoning-incident-aboard-rens-station-weaponized-psychoactive-suspected/112214/11 "2018-10-10T16:58:24Z")
Donating some food and medicine, and assigning military personnel to the cause, along with four of the more capable scientists from my teams, that can help with the investigation, regarding the gas spread. ![Brutor%20Station%20Aid](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/6/9/69f98982c9a4ad135d5921cc785a7bcf42aa785d.jpeg) I hope this helps. ---
**Author:** ![Isha\_Vuld](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/isha_vuld/32/470113_2.png) [@Isha\_Vuld](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Isha_Vuld)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2018, 5:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/news-speculation-twenty-fatalities-in-poisoning-incident-aboard-rens-station-weaponized-psychoactive-suspected/112214/12 "2018-10-10T17:53:56Z")
Wow!! Thank you, Veskin and Arrendis! That will certainly help. I’l make sure the supplies reach the appropriate authorities, and keep any surplus in storage to be donated to the victims who need long-term support. When or if government support dries up, aid organizations can make use of these. Thank you. It is nice to know we have room in our hearts for more then one problem at a time. ---
**Author:** ![Gaven\_Lok\_ri](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gaven_lok_ri/32/293159_2.png) [@Gaven\_Lok\_ri](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gaven_Lok_ri)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2018, 7:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/news-speculation-twenty-fatalities-in-poisoning-incident-aboard-rens-station-weaponized-psychoactive-suspected/112214/13 "2018-10-10T19:39:56Z")
At this point, I can say that the circumstancial evidence suggests Blood Raiders are far more likely than Angels, Diana Kim. ---
**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2018, 10:33am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/news-speculation-twenty-fatalities-in-poisoning-incident-aboard-rens-station-weaponized-psychoactive-suspected/112214/14 "2018-10-11T10:33:40Z")
At first I thought maybe its first documented use of Fedo as a chemical weapon. These critters reputation doesnt have to be even more bad. ---
**Author:** ![Garion\_Avarr](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/garion_avarr/32/415302_2.png) [@Garion\_Avarr](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Garion_Avarr)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2018, 8:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/news-speculation-twenty-fatalities-in-poisoning-incident-aboard-rens-station-weaponized-psychoactive-suspected/112214/15 "2018-10-11T20:20:40Z")
Possibly related attacks in the Empire and Kingdom: [https://community.eveonline.com/news/news-channels/world-news/amarr-and-khanid-holdings-attacked-in-chemical-and-viral-bombing-incidents/](https://community.eveonline.com/news/news-channels/world-news/amarr-and-khanid-holdings-attacked-in-chemical-and-viral-bombing-incidents/) ---
**Author:** ![Vykiomi\_Kezak-Akarin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vykiomi_kezak-akarin/32/101259_2.png) [@Vykiomi\_Kezak-Akarin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vykiomi_Kezak-Akarin)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2018, 8:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/news-speculation-twenty-fatalities-in-poisoning-incident-aboard-rens-station-weaponized-psychoactive-suspected/112214/16 "2018-10-11T20:30:47Z")
I am certain if the dear Sa-Baron Chakaid were so concerned to “root out the corruption within Empire and Kingdom” as he put it, I have no doubt as an act of sincerity he knows how to find enough rope and promptly hang himself with it. ---
**Author:** ![Gaven\_Lok\_ri](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gaven_lok_ri/32/293159_2.png) [@Gaven\_Lok\_ri](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gaven_Lok_ri)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2018, 8:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/news-speculation-twenty-fatalities-in-poisoning-incident-aboard-rens-station-weaponized-psychoactive-suspected/112214/17 "2018-10-11T20:35:42Z")
Certainly related. The attack on my family will not go unpunished. ---
**Author:** ![Mizhara\_Del\_thul](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mizhara_del_thul/32/486150_2.png) [@Mizhara\_Del\_thul](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mizhara_Del_thul)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2018, 9:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/news-speculation-twenty-fatalities-in-poisoning-incident-aboard-rens-station-weaponized-psychoactive-suspected/112214/18 "2018-10-11T21:04:01Z")
> [@Gaven\_Lok\_ri](#): > > Certainly related. The attack on my family will not go unpunished. I have a sneaking suspicion you’ll do exactly as much about this, as you did dealing with the ones attacking _our_ families. Exactly fuckall. If you not only fail to keep your own house in order, but actively support the nation backing these attacks on _our_ blood and kin, you and yours get exactly what you deserve. ---
**Author:** ![Gaven\_Lok\_ri](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gaven_lok_ri/32/293159_2.png) [@Gaven\_Lok\_ri](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gaven_Lok_ri)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2018, 9:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/news-speculation-twenty-fatalities-in-poisoning-incident-aboard-rens-station-weaponized-psychoactive-suspected/112214/19 "2018-10-11T21:13:10Z")
You have no idea what actions I am taking or have taken regarding either event. And which nation is that which you claim that I support? Do you have conclusive evidence that this is state action rather than individual or rogue nation? ---
**Author:** ![Mizhara\_Del\_thul](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mizhara_del_thul/32/486150_2.png) [@Mizhara\_Del\_thul](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mizhara_Del_thul)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2018, 9:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/news-speculation-twenty-fatalities-in-poisoning-incident-aboard-rens-station-weaponized-psychoactive-suspected/112214/20 "2018-10-11T21:14:43Z")
You’ve already made it abundantly clear that you will dismiss any evidence, even when it’s corroborated by multiple people including your own damn loyalists, if it doesn’t fit your ridiculous narratives. Just go hide in a station or a plex again, weakling. [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/news-speculation-twenty-fatalities-in-poisoning-incident-aboard-rens-station-weaponized-psychoactive-suspected/112214.md?page=2)