# \[News, speculation!\] Twenty Fatalities in Poisoning Incident Aboard Rens Station, Weaponized Psychoactive Suspected **URL:** \ **Category:** Intergalactic Summit\ **Created:** [October 9, 2018, 11:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/news-speculation-twenty-fatalities-in-poisoning-incident-aboard-rens-station-weaponized-psychoactive-suspected/112214 "2018-10-09T23:02:19Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Aldrith\_Shutaq](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aldrith_shutaq/32/378618_2.png) [@Aldrith\_Shutaq](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aldrith_Shutaq)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2018, 9:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/news-speculation-twenty-fatalities-in-poisoning-incident-aboard-rens-station-weaponized-psychoactive-suspected/112214/21 "2018-10-11T21:15:22Z")
You have no idea what you are dealing with. ---
**Author:** ![Mizhara\_Del\_thul](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mizhara_del_thul/32/486150_2.png) [@Mizhara\_Del\_thul](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mizhara_Del_thul)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2018, 9:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/news-speculation-twenty-fatalities-in-poisoning-incident-aboard-rens-station-weaponized-psychoactive-suspected/112214/22 "2018-10-11T21:22:15Z")
You seem to think either of you do. It’s kind of cute. ---
**Author:** ![Aldrith\_Shutaq](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aldrith_shutaq/32/378618_2.png) [@Aldrith\_Shutaq](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aldrith_Shutaq)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2018, 9:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/news-speculation-twenty-fatalities-in-poisoning-incident-aboard-rens-station-weaponized-psychoactive-suspected/112214/23 "2018-10-11T21:24:36Z")
We have a far better idea than you. Meanwhile, your pointless floundering does more harm than good. A punch has no point if it breaks your own hand. ---
**Author:** ![Mizhara\_Del\_thul](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mizhara_del_thul/32/486150_2.png) [@Mizhara\_Del\_thul](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mizhara_Del_thul)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2018, 9:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/news-speculation-twenty-fatalities-in-poisoning-incident-aboard-rens-station-weaponized-psychoactive-suspected/112214/24 "2018-10-11T21:28:18Z")
Khanids, pretty boy. They break Khanids. ---
**Author:** ![Vykiomi\_Kezak-Akarin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vykiomi_kezak-akarin/32/101259_2.png) [@Vykiomi\_Kezak-Akarin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vykiomi_Kezak-Akarin)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2018, 9:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/news-speculation-twenty-fatalities-in-poisoning-incident-aboard-rens-station-weaponized-psychoactive-suspected/112214/25 "2018-10-11T21:28:40Z")
I do have to admit, Garkeh really has been slipping lately with his choice of minions. Such lack of style, not even waiting the five year minimum before you try to stick the knife in the ribs into someone who humiliated you in public – but barely a week! Then not even say, co-opting a Republic terror cell with ties to the Mandate as the fall guys, or putting in the effort for the fabrications or false confessions to construct a believable narrative that it really was House Ardishapur all along! Shame, Garkeh, shame. ---
**Author:** ![Aldrith\_Shutaq](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aldrith_shutaq/32/378618_2.png) [@Aldrith\_Shutaq](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aldrith_Shutaq)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2018, 9:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/news-speculation-twenty-fatalities-in-poisoning-incident-aboard-rens-station-weaponized-psychoactive-suspected/112214/26 "2018-10-11T21:29:15Z")
You’re breaking something far bigger than that, fool. ---
**Author:** ![Gaven\_Lok\_ri](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gaven_lok_ri/32/293159_2.png) [@Gaven\_Lok\_ri](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gaven_Lok_ri)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2018, 9:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/news-speculation-twenty-fatalities-in-poisoning-incident-aboard-rens-station-weaponized-psychoactive-suspected/112214/27 "2018-10-11T21:35:51Z")
You know Mizhara, you could have just said your evidence was all circumstantial, rather than being belligerent. If anyone has evidence that is **not** circumstantial, I would be grateful for it. ---
**Author:** ![Mizhara\_Del\_thul](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mizhara_del_thul/32/486150_2.png) [@Mizhara\_Del\_thul](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mizhara_Del_thul)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2018, 9:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/news-speculation-twenty-fatalities-in-poisoning-incident-aboard-rens-station-weaponized-psychoactive-suspected/112214/28 "2018-10-11T21:39:33Z")
Again, you claimed incontrovertible evidence was fake once before, even after other people corroborated it. Why would _anyone_ bother sharing evidence with you again? ---
**Author:** ![Aldrith\_Shutaq](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aldrith_shutaq/32/378618_2.png) [@Aldrith\_Shutaq](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aldrith_Shutaq)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2018, 9:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/news-speculation-twenty-fatalities-in-poisoning-incident-aboard-rens-station-weaponized-psychoactive-suspected/112214/29 "2018-10-11T21:41:05Z")
As figuratively blind as you are literally blind. Go to hell, Mizhara. ---
**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2018, 9:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/news-speculation-twenty-fatalities-in-poisoning-incident-aboard-rens-station-weaponized-psychoactive-suspected/112214/30 "2018-10-11T21:59:51Z")
But not wrong. He’s claimed in just the last two weeks that he’d dismiss actual, not-circumstantial evidence as fake. Honestly, Aldrith, you’re _not_ blind. Don’t act it. ---
**Author:** ![Tyrel\_Toov](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tyrel_toov/32/387953_2.png) [@Tyrel\_Toov](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tyrel_Toov)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2018, 10:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/news-speculation-twenty-fatalities-in-poisoning-incident-aboard-rens-station-weaponized-psychoactive-suspected/112214/31 "2018-10-11T22:00:15Z")
> [@Aldrith\_Shutaq](#): > > As figuratively blind as you are literally blind. She’s reading this message board, so… or is this an admission that she’s correct? ---
**Author:** ![Gaven\_Lok\_ri](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gaven_lok_ri/32/293159_2.png) [@Gaven\_Lok\_ri](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gaven_Lok_ri)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2018, 10:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/news-speculation-twenty-fatalities-in-poisoning-incident-aboard-rens-station-weaponized-psychoactive-suspected/112214/32 "2018-10-11T22:18:35Z")
Mizhara’s logic here boils down to: “Someone disagreed with me on the value of one type of evidence on one issue, therefore they will dismiss all evidence on an entirely different issue.” My suspicion is that it’s a rather transparent attempt to avoid admitting that their certainty on a known culprit on this issue is based on evidence that won’t hold up in court. I want the person behind this unmasked and I want them dead. But that means waiting till there is actually enough evidence to prosecute them. ---
**Author:** ![Mizhara\_Del\_thul](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mizhara_del_thul/32/486150_2.png) [@Mizhara\_Del\_thul](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mizhara_Del_thul)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2018, 10:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/news-speculation-twenty-fatalities-in-poisoning-incident-aboard-rens-station-weaponized-psychoactive-suspected/112214/33 "2018-10-11T22:21:33Z")
_Again_, incontrovertible evidence, recognized as such by even those among your own loyalists. You dismiss this as fake, and now expect people to think you’ll do anything but spin your own narrative this time? Because… reasons? You proved you have neither principle nor honesty. The onus is now on you to undo that. Maybe then your opinion will hold any worth. ---
**Author:** ![Ascentior](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ascentior/32/266358_2.png) [@Ascentior](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ascentior)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2018, 10:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/news-speculation-twenty-fatalities-in-poisoning-incident-aboard-rens-station-weaponized-psychoactive-suspected/112214/34 "2018-10-11T22:22:09Z")
My Lord, may we continue ignoring this vile creature and get back to the topic at hand? I’d hate for this important discussion to be degraded into a ■■■■ flinging contest with monkeys ---
**Author:** ![Samira\_Kernher](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/samira_kernher/32/244840_2.png) [@Samira\_Kernher](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Samira_Kernher)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2018, 10:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/news-speculation-twenty-fatalities-in-poisoning-incident-aboard-rens-station-weaponized-psychoactive-suspected/112214/35 "2018-10-11T22:22:50Z")
I do have to wonder what, if any, response there will be to this, considering the implications that would entail. > [@Gaven\_Lok\_ri](#): > > I want the person behind this unmasked and I want them dead. But that means waiting till there is actually enough evidence to prosecute them. Do you really think that will happen? After all the other people we’ve presented evidence on who have gone unprosecuted? > [@Gaven\_Lok\_ri](#): > > Mizhara’s logic here boils down to: “Someone disagreed with me on the value of one type of evidence on one issue, therefore they will dismiss all evidence on an entirely different issue.” It was a pretty concrete piece of evidence, my lord. ---
**Author:** ![Aldrith\_Shutaq](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aldrith_shutaq/32/378618_2.png) [@Aldrith\_Shutaq](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aldrith_Shutaq)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2018, 10:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/news-speculation-twenty-fatalities-in-poisoning-incident-aboard-rens-station-weaponized-psychoactive-suspected/112214/36 "2018-10-11T22:32:29Z")
> [@Mizhara\_Del\_thul](#): > > Maybe then your opinion will hold any worth. Your pettiness speaks volumes. ---
**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2018, 10:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/news-speculation-twenty-fatalities-in-poisoning-incident-aboard-rens-station-weaponized-psychoactive-suspected/112214/37 "2018-10-11T22:36:29Z")
. . . who was that directed to, as it immediately follows a response that doesn’t appear petty at all? ---
**Author:** ![Deitra\_Vess](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/deitra_vess/32/249726_2.png) [@Deitra\_Vess](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Deitra_Vess)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2018, 10:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/news-speculation-twenty-fatalities-in-poisoning-incident-aboard-rens-station-weaponized-psychoactive-suspected/112214/38 "2018-10-11T22:38:20Z")
Nobody is blaming the Amarr empire on this? Really??? On a serious note, if those events are related to the one in Rens, maybe we should simply focus on uncovering just who it was and how to deal with them as a whole rather than… well this. ---
**Author:** ![Gaven\_Lok\_ri](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gaven_lok_ri/32/293159_2.png) [@Gaven\_Lok\_ri](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gaven_Lok_ri)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2018, 10:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/news-speculation-twenty-fatalities-in-poisoning-incident-aboard-rens-station-weaponized-psychoactive-suspected/112214/39 "2018-10-11T22:39:58Z")
They attacked my wife, a Holder in her own right. So yes, Samira, I expect that if the responsible party can be conclusively proven, there will be rather severe consequences. If that expectation proves false… then well that will have consequences for different people. ---
**Author:** ![Gaven\_Lok\_ri](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gaven_lok_ri/32/293159_2.png) [@Gaven\_Lok\_ri](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gaven_Lok_ri)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2018, 10:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/news-speculation-twenty-fatalities-in-poisoning-incident-aboard-rens-station-weaponized-psychoactive-suspected/112214/40 "2018-10-11T22:46:04Z")
Deitra: Two people publicly were threatened by Chakaid on these forums last week. This week both of their families were attacked. The attacks are pretty obviously related. There is an obvious primary suspect, but the seemingly obvious is not always true. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/news-speculation-twenty-fatalities-in-poisoning-incident-aboard-rens-station-weaponized-psychoactive-suspected/112214.md?page=1) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/news-speculation-twenty-fatalities-in-poisoning-incident-aboard-rens-station-weaponized-psychoactive-suspected/112214.md?page=3)