# NFT's are Fundamentally a MLM-Type Scam Designed to Get You to Buy Crypto **URL:** \ **Category:** Out Of Pod Experience\ **Created:** [January 22, 2022, 4:48am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/nfts-are-fundamentally-a-mlm-type-scam-designed-to-get-you-to-buy-crypto/346814 "2022-01-22T04:48:11Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 35
**Author:** ![Aedaxus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aedaxus/32/393915_2.png) [@Aedaxus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aedaxus)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2022, 3:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/nfts-are-fundamentally-a-mlm-type-scam-designed-to-get-you-to-buy-crypto/346814/711 "2022-02-19T15:27:47Z")
> [@Aaron](#): > > Explain further, the goal of person Y from Colombia is to receive money some way some how, now he has the money from the video card how does he go about spending it? Eh… read my post? > [@Aedaxus](#): > > Now there is some difficulty and getting those video cards from X to Y but I’d refrain from explaining how it’s done. Also, the person in Colombia can send to person Z, the real estate agent, some bitcoin to buy an appartment complex. Person Y now rents out that appartment complex for real money. ---
**Author:** ![Aaron](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aaron/32/379788_2.png) [@Aaron](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aaron)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2022, 3:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/nfts-are-fundamentally-a-mlm-type-scam-designed-to-get-you-to-buy-crypto/346814/712 "2022-02-19T15:30:15Z")
Could you explain the point of your example? If you’re referring to a crime, then please note that creating a record on a public ledger that can never be changed that shows money was received for a crime is incriminating. I don’t think it’s smart of a criminal to use BTC for crime, what do you think of that? ---
**Author:** ![Aedaxus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aedaxus/32/393915_2.png) [@Aedaxus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aedaxus)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2022, 3:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/nfts-are-fundamentally-a-mlm-type-scam-designed-to-get-you-to-buy-crypto/346814/713 "2022-02-19T15:32:52Z")
> [@Aaron](#): > > what do you think of that? I think crime is bad and that’s it. I’m not going to defend nor explain how to launder money. It’s a complex business where people do have wages and bitcoin is a great tool for it. But unlike the people you see in the news who don’t “diffuse” the sums, they get caught. Like those wet bandits you posted somewhere up here. ---
**Author:** ![Aaron](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aaron/32/379788_2.png) [@Aaron](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aaron)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2022, 3:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/nfts-are-fundamentally-a-mlm-type-scam-designed-to-get-you-to-buy-crypto/346814/714 "2022-02-19T15:33:41Z")
Criminal 1: “hey lets send some money to our criminal friends!” Criminal 2: “yes, let’s use BTC where it creates a record that will never be deleted, and we will need to sign up with and exchange and show our passports and real address, and if it is above a certain amount the exchange has to report it to the tax office” I’m sorry, I just don’t think it works like that. ---
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2022, 3:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/nfts-are-fundamentally-a-mlm-type-scam-designed-to-get-you-to-buy-crypto/346814/715 "2022-02-19T15:33:53Z")
> [@Aaron](#): > > on a public ledger that can never be changed That’s false. Already explained before, but Aaron does not want FACTS that confronts his delusions > [@Aaron](#): > > shows money was received for a crime That’s also false. All is shows, is money was exchanged. The exact same thing without BTC. > [@Aaron](#): > > I don’t think it’s smart of a criminal to use BTC for crime, what do you think of that? Just as smart as using money for a crime. Which is why they don’t do it. They use money. Now laundering is a thing, and BTC helps laundering because it allows to dodge the national security systems and abuse corner cases (like art) ---
**Author:** ![Aedaxus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aedaxus/32/393915_2.png) [@Aedaxus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aedaxus)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2022, 3:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/nfts-are-fundamentally-a-mlm-type-scam-designed-to-get-you-to-buy-crypto/346814/716 "2022-02-19T15:34:15Z")
> [@Aaron](#): > > we will need to sign up with and exchange You are not really reading what I typed, right? ---
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2022, 3:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/nfts-are-fundamentally-a-mlm-type-scam-designed-to-get-you-to-buy-crypto/346814/717 "2022-02-19T15:34:46Z")
> [@Aedaxus](#): > > You are not really reading what I typed, right? No, he’s been delusional and high for like 2000 posts by now. ---
**Author:** ![Aaron](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aaron/32/379788_2.png) [@Aaron](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aaron)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2022, 3:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/nfts-are-fundamentally-a-mlm-type-scam-designed-to-get-you-to-buy-crypto/346814/718 "2022-02-19T15:35:08Z")
Repost what or quote exactly what you think i missed and I will try my best to answer. ---
**Author:** ![Aedaxus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aedaxus/32/393915_2.png) [@Aedaxus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aedaxus)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2022, 3:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/nfts-are-fundamentally-a-mlm-type-scam-designed-to-get-you-to-buy-crypto/346814/719 "2022-02-19T15:35:15Z")
> [@Anderson\_Geten](#): > > No, he’s been delusional and high for like 2000 posts by now. With his bitcoin business, he can afford it. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2022, 3:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/nfts-are-fundamentally-a-mlm-type-scam-designed-to-get-you-to-buy-crypto/346814/720 "2022-02-19T15:35:56Z")
I think his mining server generated cancerous gases and that’s why he is as he is now. #nobrainnopain ---
**Author:** ![Aedaxus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aedaxus/32/393915_2.png) [@Aedaxus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aedaxus)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2022, 3:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/nfts-are-fundamentally-a-mlm-type-scam-designed-to-get-you-to-buy-crypto/346814/721 "2022-02-19T15:38:52Z")
> [@Aaron](#): > > exactly what you think i missed You missed that the BTC is not money. You think it is. It’s more like an IOU that doesn’t get converted, it goes through some steps which I did not mention as it’s not part of the actual transaction for the video cards. It goes through the machine, round and round. Used to pay people here and there making it only back to money after it went through some hoops. Hence the reference of the washing machine. BTC made a lot of steps easier, much easier. ---
**Author:** ![Aaron](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aaron/32/379788_2.png) [@Aaron](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aaron)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2022, 3:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/nfts-are-fundamentally-a-mlm-type-scam-designed-to-get-you-to-buy-crypto/346814/722 "2022-02-19T15:39:22Z")
> [@Aedaxus](#): > > Eh… read my post? My problem with you is that you’re now trying to ignore the fact Person Y from Colombia now has to find a way to exchange the crypto he has into physical cash. > [@Aedaxus](#): > > You missed that the BTC is not money. You think it is. Never try to control what people think. It will not work. I have a 100% belief that BTC is currency. There is not anything you can say in the known universe to change this. ---
**Author:** ![Aedaxus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aedaxus/32/393915_2.png) [@Aedaxus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aedaxus)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2022, 3:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/nfts-are-fundamentally-a-mlm-type-scam-designed-to-get-you-to-buy-crypto/346814/723 "2022-02-19T15:41:34Z")
> [@Aaron](#): > > Colombia now has to find a way to exchange the crypto he has into physical cash. Laundering and he’s an investor in real estate, he pays his friend real estate agent lawfully with money from renters. He’s doing completely legal stuff. Not sure why you’d think someone as respected in his community would be exporting illicit video cards! ---
**Author:** ![Aedaxus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aedaxus/32/393915_2.png) [@Aedaxus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aedaxus)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2022, 3:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/nfts-are-fundamentally-a-mlm-type-scam-designed-to-get-you-to-buy-crypto/346814/724 "2022-02-19T15:42:50Z")
> [@Aaron](#): > > I have a 100% belief that BTC is currency. t. the guy who converts it to real £’s it as soon as he mined a few… ---
**Author:** ![Aaron](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aaron/32/379788_2.png) [@Aaron](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aaron)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2022, 3:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/nfts-are-fundamentally-a-mlm-type-scam-designed-to-get-you-to-buy-crypto/346814/725 "2022-02-19T15:43:04Z")
> [@Aedaxus](#): > > Laundering and he’s an investor in real estate, he pays his friend real estate agent lawfully with money from renters. He’s doing completely legal stuff. Not sure why you’d think someone as respected in his community would be exporting illicit video cards! So we are 100% clear, please explain how person Y from Colombia will turn his BTC from an ill gotten GPU deal into physical cash? ---
**Author:** ![Aaron](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aaron/32/379788_2.png) [@Aaron](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aaron)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2022, 3:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/nfts-are-fundamentally-a-mlm-type-scam-designed-to-get-you-to-buy-crypto/346814/726 "2022-02-19T15:44:29Z")
> [@Aedaxus](#): > > the guy who converts it to real £’s it as soon as he mined a few… I was living month to month before I started mining, and racked up debt. I change it to real cash so I can pay off what I owe and pay bills, is this ok with you? ---
**Author:** ![Aedaxus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aedaxus/32/393915_2.png) [@Aedaxus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aedaxus)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2022, 3:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/nfts-are-fundamentally-a-mlm-type-scam-designed-to-get-you-to-buy-crypto/346814/727 "2022-02-19T15:44:43Z")
Just read up, maybe translate it to french because I probably said some expression that doesn’t translate well. Anyways, i’m going to print out this gem here: ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/6/f/f/6fff5e85b8a1accf10386da4e66e534ebac9e70b.png) NO SELLING THIS AS AN NFC!!! ---
**Author:** ![Aedaxus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aedaxus/32/393915_2.png) [@Aedaxus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aedaxus)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2022, 3:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/nfts-are-fundamentally-a-mlm-type-scam-designed-to-get-you-to-buy-crypto/346814/728 "2022-02-19T15:46:13Z")
> [@Aaron](#): > > is this ok with you? You can do what you want, just like I can do what I want in RL. Only you are responsible for you and me for me. I can voice my opinion on what you do, even if I misunderstand and so can you. And you did, scroll up a little. ---
**Author:** ![Aaron](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aaron/32/379788_2.png) [@Aaron](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aaron)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2022, 3:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/nfts-are-fundamentally-a-mlm-type-scam-designed-to-get-you-to-buy-crypto/346814/729 "2022-02-19T15:46:38Z")
You missed out the part where I responded with this: > [@Aaron](#): > > I was living month to month before I started mining, and racked up debt. I change it to real cash so I can pay off what I owe and pay bills, is this ok with you? But please go ahead and cut and chop convo’s to suit your narrative. ---
**Author:** ![Aedaxus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aedaxus/32/393915_2.png) [@Aedaxus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aedaxus)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2022, 3:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/nfts-are-fundamentally-a-mlm-type-scam-designed-to-get-you-to-buy-crypto/346814/730 "2022-02-19T15:48:01Z")
None of that would change my answer. Not sure why you are so desperate on having some kind of ‘last word’ on that. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/nfts-are-fundamentally-a-mlm-type-scam-designed-to-get-you-to-buy-crypto/346814.md?page=34) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/nfts-are-fundamentally-a-mlm-type-scam-designed-to-get-you-to-buy-crypto/346814.md?page=36)