# NFT's are Fundamentally a MLM-Type Scam Designed to Get You to Buy Crypto **URL:** \ **Category:** Out Of Pod Experience\ **Created:** [January 22, 2022, 4:48am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/nfts-are-fundamentally-a-mlm-type-scam-designed-to-get-you-to-buy-crypto/346814 "2022-01-22T04:48:11Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![Xuxe\_Xu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xuxe_xu/32/464660_2.png) [@Xuxe\_Xu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xuxe_Xu)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2022, 9:04am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/nfts-are-fundamentally-a-mlm-type-scam-designed-to-get-you-to-buy-crypto/346814/120 "2022-02-02T09:04:29Z")
A lot of people would save themselves a lot of trouble by simply watching that video in OP and seeing why NFTs and crypto and P2E should be avoided. ---
**Author:** ![Katana\_Masen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/katana_masen/32/471330_2.png) [@Katana\_Masen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Katana_Masen)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2022, 9:42am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/nfts-are-fundamentally-a-mlm-type-scam-designed-to-get-you-to-buy-crypto/346814/121 "2022-02-02T09:42:07Z")
> **[r/Eve - NFT and RMT is a key to make EVE last forever, Hilmar says in the...](https://www.reddit.com/r/Eve/comments/s6ubmx/nft_and_rmt_is_a_key_to_make_eve_last_forever/)** > > 283 votes and 470 comments so far on Reddit I posted the abridged translation of Hilmer’s interview about NFT and P2E on reddit and this is what I got few days later. ![d2b3a2c12b1117fe6f6df88a29ad2403](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/2/d/4/2d41394d7c632ef52f0b257507b2a2ca7600e7d7.png) Look. This is the true color of NFT devotees. How the hell did this guy assume I bolster the NFTs and P2E up in that posts contexts ? I have no doubt these dudes are brain-dead and are trying to squeeze and grift you in any considerable forms. ---
**Author:** ![Shipwreck\_Jones](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/shipwreck_jones/32/274382_2.png) [@Shipwreck\_Jones](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Shipwreck_Jones)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2022, 10:01am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/nfts-are-fundamentally-a-mlm-type-scam-designed-to-get-you-to-buy-crypto/346814/122 "2022-02-02T10:01:15Z")
![1](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/3/5/a/35a87c33c1666f9ad38c9f7f49067d7024cc54be.png) ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2022, 11:44am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/nfts-are-fundamentally-a-mlm-type-scam-designed-to-get-you-to-buy-crypto/346814/123 "2022-02-02T11:44:01Z")
Tell him if he pays you $1500 CA$H upfront you give it a try. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2022, 12:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/nfts-are-fundamentally-a-mlm-type-scam-designed-to-get-you-to-buy-crypto/346814/124 "2022-02-02T12:04:18Z")
> [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](#): > > Tell him if he pays you $1500 CA$H upfront you give it a try. 😉 For $1,500 cash up front I’ll give _anything_ a try. 🥴 ![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/0/0/4/004e3231430b3690494061203e39095480896c5d.gif) ---
**Author:** ![Katana\_Masen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/katana_masen/32/471330_2.png) [@Katana\_Masen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Katana_Masen)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2022, 2:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/nfts-are-fundamentally-a-mlm-type-scam-designed-to-get-you-to-buy-crypto/346814/125 "2022-02-02T14:53:38Z")
$1500 isn’t that much for me to sell my own soul to the evil 😒 And apparently CCP is telling something… ![cgnMMAR](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/e/6/6/e66f391872fdf0e993e5fa8acf7e4451b22fdbd4.png) ---
**Author:** ![Aisha\_Katalen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aisha_katalen/32/387724_2.png) [@Aisha\_Katalen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aisha_Katalen)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2022, 3:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/nfts-are-fundamentally-a-mlm-type-scam-designed-to-get-you-to-buy-crypto/346814/126 "2022-02-02T15:16:24Z")
KiraTV is a YT channel that is mostly MMO related but covers a lot of NFT hilarity. Well worth watching. ---
**Author:** ![Arumi\_Liz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arumi_liz/32/276823_2.png) [@Arumi\_Liz](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arumi_Liz)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2022, 3:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/nfts-are-fundamentally-a-mlm-type-scam-designed-to-get-you-to-buy-crypto/346814/127 "2022-02-02T15:21:20Z")
I wouldn’t trust someone with the name of Kira ---
**Author:** ![Aisha\_Katalen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aisha_katalen/32/387724_2.png) [@Aisha\_Katalen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aisha_Katalen)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2022, 3:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/nfts-are-fundamentally-a-mlm-type-scam-designed-to-get-you-to-buy-crypto/346814/128 "2022-02-02T15:34:06Z")
I’d not trust someone who’s name is derived from the word “aurum” to talk about and promote NFT. ---
**Author:** ![Arumi\_Liz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arumi_liz/32/276823_2.png) [@Arumi\_Liz](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arumi_Liz)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2022, 3:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/nfts-are-fundamentally-a-mlm-type-scam-designed-to-get-you-to-buy-crypto/346814/129 "2022-02-02T15:41:31Z")
I made up this name when I was a teenager and is the first time I’m hearing about aurum. Kira is a name that appears in many different places while I have never seen an Arumi Liz. Sorry for being original unlike your boy. Don’t get brazen now ---
**Author:** ![Aisha\_Katalen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aisha_katalen/32/387724_2.png) [@Aisha\_Katalen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aisha_Katalen)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2022, 3:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/nfts-are-fundamentally-a-mlm-type-scam-designed-to-get-you-to-buy-crypto/346814/130 "2022-02-02T15:45:14Z")
Yes what coincidence your character was created around the time NFT got hot and all you talk about is NFT, p2e and bitcoins. I bet you all planned this at BOB’s summer BBQ in 2006, in no way it’s an alt to promote RMT in various ways. ---
**Author:** ![Arumi\_Liz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arumi_liz/32/276823_2.png) [@Arumi\_Liz](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arumi_Liz)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2022, 3:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/nfts-are-fundamentally-a-mlm-type-scam-designed-to-get-you-to-buy-crypto/346814/131 "2022-02-02T15:45:53Z")
I think I understand why you like playing this game. You like to make up conspiracies to try and manipulate people and this game gives you an outlet for that. ---
**Author:** ![Aisha\_Katalen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aisha_katalen/32/387724_2.png) [@Aisha\_Katalen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aisha_Katalen)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2022, 4:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/nfts-are-fundamentally-a-mlm-type-scam-designed-to-get-you-to-buy-crypto/346814/132 "2022-02-02T16:07:55Z")
Yeah that must be it. ---
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2022, 6:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/nfts-are-fundamentally-a-mlm-type-scam-designed-to-get-you-to-buy-crypto/346814/133 "2022-02-02T18:03:56Z")
Well it is. Aurum means gold in latin. So if Arumi comes from Aurum, it’s more likely it comes from a latin word than an unused MMO-specific word that actually came from that latin word. So yes, it can as well be a coincidence. Claiming otherwise is BS. ---
**Author:** ![Arumi\_Liz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arumi_liz/32/276823_2.png) [@Arumi\_Liz](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arumi_Liz)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2022, 6:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/nfts-are-fundamentally-a-mlm-type-scam-designed-to-get-you-to-buy-crypto/346814/134 "2022-02-02T18:06:18Z")
You are the reason why this forum is unhealthy. It’s not a ■■■■■■■■ “claim” if it’s the truth. People tend to think of stories and stuff when they’re young and bored and considering I don’t even know a lick of latin all you’re doing is jumping to conclusion because of your bias against me. ---
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2022, 6:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/nfts-are-fundamentally-a-mlm-type-scam-designed-to-get-you-to-buy-crypto/346814/135 "2022-02-02T18:09:07Z")
> [@Arumi\_Liz](#): > > jumping to conclusion because of your bias against me. I don’t have a bias against you. I don’t know you, I don’t care about you. I only care about people that I think interesting. I have a bias against pro-scam arguments. I have a bias against people claiming it’s in the interest of other people to follow their advice. I play a game that is called Eve Online. But I don’t have a bias agaisnt you. ---
**Author:** ![Arumi\_Liz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arumi_liz/32/276823_2.png) [@Arumi\_Liz](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arumi_Liz)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2022, 6:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/nfts-are-fundamentally-a-mlm-type-scam-designed-to-get-you-to-buy-crypto/346814/136 "2022-02-02T18:12:23Z")
A liar too ---
**Author:** ![Shipwreck\_Jones](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/shipwreck_jones/32/274382_2.png) [@Shipwreck\_Jones](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Shipwreck_Jones)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2022, 6:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/nfts-are-fundamentally-a-mlm-type-scam-designed-to-get-you-to-buy-crypto/346814/137 "2022-02-02T18:12:46Z")
Well, let’s please try to keep things civil guys. An ISD already had to come in here once already, and I’d hate to see the thread get shut down. Please. Pretty please. With sugar on top. ---
**Author:** ![Arumi\_Liz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arumi_liz/32/276823_2.png) [@Arumi\_Liz](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arumi_Liz)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2022, 6:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/nfts-are-fundamentally-a-mlm-type-scam-designed-to-get-you-to-buy-crypto/346814/138 "2022-02-02T18:13:32Z")
He thinks he can talk ill to anyone he feels like and get away with it. It’s why people get aggressive against him and CCP would be wise to silence him instead of others. ---
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2022, 6:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/nfts-are-fundamentally-a-mlm-type-scam-designed-to-get-you-to-buy-crypto/346814/139 "2022-02-02T18:16:13Z")
> [@Shipwreck\_Jones](#): > > Well, let’s please try to keep things civil guys. It was pretty civil(with sugar). He made a claim that I had a bias , and I don’t know why, and I don’t care. He’s the one making personal attacks and then pretend I am toxic. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/nfts-are-fundamentally-a-mlm-type-scam-designed-to-get-you-to-buy-crypto/346814.md?page=5) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/nfts-are-fundamentally-a-mlm-type-scam-designed-to-get-you-to-buy-crypto/346814.md?page=7)