# Nice sale event! **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [November 11, 2021, 11:06am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/nice-sale-event/336169 "2021-11-11T11:06:46Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Aisha\_Katalen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aisha_katalen/32/387724_2.png) [@Aisha\_Katalen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aisha_Katalen)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2021, 1:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/nice-sale-event/336169/21 "2021-11-11T13:20:29Z")
They always were 50k. ---
**Author:** ![Gerard\_Amatin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gerard_amatin/32/481361_2.png) [@Gerard\_Amatin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gerard_Amatin)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2021, 2:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/nice-sale-event/336169/22 "2021-11-11T14:08:08Z")
> [@Zoiie](#): > > That’s currently, I am referring to earlier in the history. > > I could swear I saw it say something like 75k or 80k sp and then I got 50k due to my character SP level. Alpha skill injectors have a 50k SP default, again it seems you’re thinking of small skill injectors. There are three types of skill injectors. Large (the regular ones), which can be split into 5 small skill injectors. And then there are Alpha skill injectors. I don’t know if Alpha skill injectors follow SP diminishing returns like the other two but I wouldn’t be surprised if they did. ---
**Author:** ![Xuxe\_Xu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xuxe_xu/32/464660_2.png) [@Xuxe\_Xu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xuxe_Xu)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2021, 5:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/nice-sale-event/336169/23 "2021-11-11T17:17:18Z")
Omega can’t use alpha injectors. Was curious and just tested it to see. Nope. It says alphas only in the item description but I thought I’d see (for science of course). ---
**Author:** ![Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/geo_eclipse_oksaras/32/500781_2.png) [@Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Geo_Eclipse_Oksaras)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2021, 5:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/nice-sale-event/336169/24 "2021-11-11T17:37:02Z")
unlike, large or small injectors, the alpha doesn’t mention anything about diminished returns when using it. so that would lead one to believe, that as long as you are alpha, you get the full 50, since that is supposed to be the equivalent of one days worth of skill points. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2021, 5:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/nice-sale-event/336169/25 "2021-11-11T17:57:13Z")
So does it follow that these SP cannot be extracted if they can only be used by an Alpha? ---
**Author:** ![Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/geo_eclipse_oksaras/32/500781_2.png) [@Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Geo_Eclipse_Oksaras)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2021, 6:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/nice-sale-event/336169/26 "2021-11-11T18:11:57Z")
only omega level skills can be extracted. so if an alpha that went omega and back to alpha wants to extract battleship skill, they can only extract L5 they cannot extract L4 at least thats my understanding ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2021, 6:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/nice-sale-event/336169/27 "2021-11-11T18:13:19Z")
> [@Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](#): > > only omega level skills can be extracted. Yeah, and these Alpha pods can only be applied to Alpha-allowed skills, yeah? You cant gain levels in things that you cant use, right? ---
**Author:** ![Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/geo_eclipse_oksaras/32/500781_2.png) [@Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Geo_Eclipse_Oksaras)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2021, 6:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/nice-sale-event/336169/28 "2021-11-11T18:14:54Z")
the alpha injectors can only be used by alpha… so when my omega drops tomorrow, i will be eligible to use the alpha injectors… once i go back to omega, i cannot use them. i see what you are saying though, so yes they can be injected as an alpha, but when you go to omega, you can apply them however you want. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2021, 6:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/nice-sale-event/336169/29 "2021-11-11T18:16:43Z")
I know Im asking whats probably an obvious question, that doesnt answer it though lol. An Alpha cannot apply SP to Omega skills, can they? Edit: just saw your edit. So ok. I just need to let an omega laspe, inject the points, then resub and apply them to an Omega skill? ---
**Author:** ![Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/geo_eclipse_oksaras/32/500781_2.png) [@Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Geo_Eclipse_Oksaras)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2021, 6:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/nice-sale-event/336169/30 "2021-11-11T18:17:47Z")
no. they can inject the skills into the unallocated skill bank, but they cannot inject into an omega skill… now. if they don’t use the unallocated, and they go omega, then the SP can go anywhere. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2021, 6:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/nice-sale-event/336169/31 "2021-11-11T18:18:48Z")
Ok… So is this really cheap isk? ---
**Author:** ![Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/geo_eclipse_oksaras/32/500781_2.png) [@Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Geo_Eclipse_Oksaras)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2021, 6:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/nice-sale-event/336169/32 "2021-11-11T18:24:27Z")
last i recall, they were 45-55m isk . at least ichooseyou is selling them in that range ---
**Author:** ![Avaelica\_Kuershin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/avaelica_kuershin/32/478139_2.png) [@Avaelica\_Kuershin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Avaelica_Kuershin)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2021, 7:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/nice-sale-event/336169/33 "2021-11-11T19:39:03Z")
That’s not what I found when I dropped some unused alts to 5 million SP. ---
**Author:** ![Mr\_Epeen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mr_epeen/32/373308_2.png) [@Mr\_Epeen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mr_Epeen)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2021, 7:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/nice-sale-event/336169/34 "2021-11-11T19:54:30Z")
Injectors have diminishing returns. Buying SP packs from CCP doesn’t. So why would you buy extractors to turn into injectors that nobody will buy? Of course they’re running a two for one sale. Squeeze that last bit of cash from the ignorant before they realize the days of SP farming for ISK are long dead and buried. Mr Epeen 🕶 ---
**Author:** ![Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/geo_eclipse_oksaras/32/500781_2.png) [@Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Geo_Eclipse_Oksaras)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2021, 8:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/nice-sale-event/336169/35 "2021-11-11T20:07:29Z")
from what i read, only omega level can be extracted, so maybe an alpha cannot extract actual Omega skills that they cannot train at all. ---
**Author:** ![Avaelica\_Kuershin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/avaelica_kuershin/32/478139_2.png) [@Avaelica\_Kuershin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Avaelica_Kuershin)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2021, 8:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/nice-sale-event/336169/36 "2021-11-11T20:56:30Z")
It depends on the clone state, I only ever extracted when the clones were omega. ---
**Author:** ![Mkikaden\_Tiragen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mkikaden_tiragen/32/243913_2.png) [@Mkikaden\_Tiragen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mkikaden_Tiragen)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2021, 9:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/nice-sale-event/336169/37 "2021-11-11T21:15:29Z")
An Omega clone can apply SP to and extract SP from any skills, period, no restrictions except cannot drop below 5.5m total SP and still use an extractor (cannot extract to below 5m SP, so much have at least 5.5m to extract). An Alpha can inject as many SP as they want, however, they can only: 1. Apply SP to Alpha skills 2. Extract SP from Omega skills This keeps players from leveraging referral bonus SP to get extractable SP without ever going Omega. There is also not a hard SP cap for Alpha accounts. Every time the 20m figure has been referenced by CCP it was in regards to Alpha-trainable skills (so functional SP), not as a limit on the SP an Alpha account can have/inject. ---
**Author:** ![Aisha\_Katalen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aisha_katalen/32/387724_2.png) [@Aisha\_Katalen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aisha_Katalen)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2021, 9:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/nice-sale-event/336169/38 "2021-11-11T21:51:32Z")
> [@Mkikaden\_Tiragen](#): > > except cannot drop below 5.5m total SP. 5mil SP. ---
**Author:** ![Mkikaden\_Tiragen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mkikaden_tiragen/32/243913_2.png) [@Mkikaden\_Tiragen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mkikaden_Tiragen)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2021, 10:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/nice-sale-event/336169/39 "2021-11-11T22:05:05Z")
I clarified the wording to what I was trying to communicate. ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2021, 11:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/nice-sale-event/336169/40 "2021-11-11T23:53:49Z")
> [@Mr\_Epeen](#): > > Injectors have diminishing returns. Buying SP packs from CCP doesn’t. So why would you buy extractors to turn into injectors that nobody will buy? Because it’s more efficient to inject until you have 80 million skill points: ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/0/1/e/01e0cc4e6a49f55cad24a98c1b7d036f05811cec.png) [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/nice-sale-event/336169.md?page=1) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/nice-sale-event/336169.md?page=3)