# Nice to see CCP keeps their promises

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/nice-to-see-ccp-keeps-their-promises/8675>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [July 4, 2017, 9:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/nice-to-see-ccp-keeps-their-promises/8675 "2017-07-04T21:22:08Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 6\
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**Author:** ![Cade\_Windstalker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cade_windstalker/32/221037_2.png) [@Cade\_Windstalker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cade_Windstalker)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2017, 4:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/nice-to-see-ccp-keeps-their-promises/8675/41 "2017-08-16T16:08:09Z")

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> [@Nevyn\_Auscent](#):
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> Uh wtf are you going on about June for? We had the June data at the start of this thread, that’s the entire reason the thread got made is that that line in june you are talking about only dropped a little and then stabilised for an entire month.

I meant July and it was pretty clear from context that I meant July… it’s now been fixed.

> [@Nevyn\_Auscent](#):
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> The drop at the end of July is what I am talking about with move ops, and if you really think that the point they made it available to the general public is when they first started doing anything at all… yeah.

It was, we’ve got the kill mails and the anchoring timers to prove it. Goons didn’t start anchoring Citadels for their cyno chain until the 2nd. You can see this because NC killed like half a dozen of them. You’re making assumptions with no proof here when we have a pretty clear timeline of events.

> [@Nevyn\_Auscent](#):
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> So no, it’s not smoke for no reason, and obviously the current war is causing a drop since half of them are busy on other accounts fighting the war. But that doesn’t mean that post war (assuming no coalition failscades) that we won’t see a spike back up to where it had stabilised before.

There’s no data on the graph of rat bounties for the time of the current war. That would be another drop, not the one we’re seeing mid-July.

> [@Dinsdale\_Pirannha](#):
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> Maybe you should check your facts.
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> I hate advancing the agenda of any goon, but this guy’s blog proves how wrong you are.
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> One of the key lines from this goon:
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> “However, while the overall amount from bounties is down, in Delve they are actually up some, topping the July number by about 400 billion ISK.”
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> Given the summer lull in players, that means the nerfs CCP applied were virtually meaningless, as expected.

So, because the nerfs haven’t hit Goons specifically hard enough the nerfs are meaningless? That’s not how economics works and it’s not how the ISK supply works…

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**Author:** ![Cade\_Windstalker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cade_windstalker/32/221037_2.png) [@Cade\_Windstalker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cade_Windstalker)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2017, 4:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/nice-to-see-ccp-keeps-their-promises/8675/42 "2017-08-16T16:09:14Z")

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> [@yellow\_parasol](#):
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> Well, for simpler minds with simpler thoughts it might be one. that’s why you are a good citizen and voter, because you don’t need to understand any of this. 🙂

Lol, again, case and point. Personal attacks in lieu of facts or any kind of coherent argument.

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**Author:** ![Wilhelm\_Arcturus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wilhelm_arcturus/32/412004_2.png) [@Wilhelm\_Arcturus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wilhelm_Arcturus)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2017, 10:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/nice-to-see-ccp-keeps-their-promises/8675/43 "2017-08-17T22:28:28Z")

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Dins, you passed over the part when I pointed out that bounties were still down from the peak in May. But cherry picking numbers isn’t a new thing for you, is it?

Looking forward to you rationalizing the August numbers when they come out.

Thanks for furthering my own agenda with the link!

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**Author:** ![Commander\_Spurty](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/commander_spurty/32/499672_2.png) [@Commander\_Spurty](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Commander_Spurty)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2017, 7:41am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/nice-to-see-ccp-keeps-their-promises/8675/44 "2017-08-18T07:41:25Z")

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Its not that “CCP backed the Wrong horse”, but that they “backed any horse what-so-ever” thats a tough pill to swallow.

Best CCP is the “CCP that is in it for the health of the game, not the players of the game”.

Having said the above, it’s got to be said that nothing they do will ever be good enough for everyone. Somone’s going to be upset with their changes. Someone’s going to Herp-a-derp-grrr-goons-T20-Sir-Molles-BBQ-M0o-salt up the forums over it. It’s like a cultural revolution is required. Current / Old one is dead boring in a gaming community.

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**Author:** ![yellow\_parasol](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/yellow_parasol/32/10455_2.png) [@yellow\_parasol](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/yellow_parasol)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2017, 3:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/nice-to-see-ccp-keeps-their-promises/8675/45 "2017-08-30T15:09:11Z")

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> [@Commander\_Spurty](#):
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> It’s like a cultural revolution is required.

bingo. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Persephanie\_Mae](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/persephanie_mae/32/13365_2.png) [@Persephanie\_Mae](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Persephanie_Mae)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2017, 12:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/nice-to-see-ccp-keeps-their-promises/8675/46 "2017-08-31T12:53:31Z")

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