# NNNNNNNNNNNNNNNerf drone aggro

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnerf-drone-aggro/168996>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [June 23, 2019, 12:35am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnerf-drone-aggro/168996 "2019-06-23T00:35:45Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Solonius\_Rex](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solonius_rex/32/388172_2.png) [@Solonius\_Rex](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solonius_Rex)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2019, 4:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnerf-drone-aggro/168996/197 "2019-06-24T16:35:39Z")

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> [@Caitlynn\_Askyra](#):
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> So they have more DPS to make up for it numbnuts.

How much DPS does a Gun without ammo, put out?

Hint: its the same amount that a drone boat without drones, put out.

I wrote “Running out of ammo”. I know, its confusing, but “running out of ammo” means “Running out of ammo”.

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**Author:** ![Solonius\_Rex](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solonius_rex/32/388172_2.png) [@Solonius\_Rex](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solonius_Rex)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2019, 4:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnerf-drone-aggro/168996/198 "2019-06-24T16:35:51Z")

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> [@Caitlynn\_Askyra](#):
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> It’s not hard to deduce.

Answer the question.

Where in the MER does it say how much income VNI ratting is bringing in?

Also, are you using those same deduction skills as when you were “Deducing” that I had said that drones were balanced, when infact I had not?

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**Author:** ![Caitlynn\_Askyra](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/caitlynn_askyra/32/460247_2.png) [@Caitlynn\_Askyra](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Caitlynn_Askyra)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2019, 4:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnerf-drone-aggro/168996/199 "2019-06-24T16:46:15Z")

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> [@Solonius\_Rex](#):
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> Where in the MER does it say how much income VNI ratting is bringing in?

You don’t need to know that. All you need to know is where the enourmous NPC bounties and production in Delve comes from because they dwarf everything else in the economic report. They come from super ratting and Rorqual fleet mining.

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**Author:** ![Caitlynn\_Askyra](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/caitlynn_askyra/32/460247_2.png) [@Caitlynn\_Askyra](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Caitlynn_Askyra)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2019, 4:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnerf-drone-aggro/168996/200 "2019-06-24T16:47:36Z")

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> [@Solonius\_Rex](#):
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> Also, are you using those same deduction skills as when you were “Deducing” that I had said that drones were balanced, when infact I had not?

Yes. It’s called proof by contradiction.

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**Author:** ![Solonius\_Rex](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solonius_rex/32/388172_2.png) [@Solonius\_Rex](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solonius_Rex)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2019, 4:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnerf-drone-aggro/168996/201 "2019-06-24T16:48:37Z")

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> [@Caitlynn\_Askyra](#):
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> You don’t need to know that.

Oh, yes, I do need to know.

> [@Caitlynn\_Askyra](#):
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> All you need to know is where the enourmous NPC bounties and production in Delve comes from because they dwarf everything else in the economic report. They come from super ratting and Rorqual fleet mining.

Rorquals do not produce significant NPC bounties. So Rorquals have nothing to do with NPC bounty, anymore than Barges in hisec contributing to NPC bounties collected in hisec.

But, again, how do you know its Supers? How do you know it isnt a fleet of people with 100 accounts worth of VNIs?

If youre making a claim, back it up with facts. Otherwise, its just an opinion. Or better yet, a delusion.

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**Author:** ![Caitlynn\_Askyra](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/caitlynn_askyra/32/460247_2.png) [@Caitlynn\_Askyra](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Caitlynn_Askyra)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2019, 4:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnerf-drone-aggro/168996/202 "2019-06-24T16:49:25Z")

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> [@Solonius\_Rex](#):
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> Oh, yes, I do need to know.

You might but I don’t really care. I can work with implicit knowledge just fine.

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**Author:** ![Solonius\_Rex](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solonius_rex/32/388172_2.png) [@Solonius\_Rex](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solonius_Rex)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2019, 4:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnerf-drone-aggro/168996/203 "2019-06-24T16:50:51Z")

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> [@Caitlynn\_Askyra](#):
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> I can work with implicit knowledge just fine.

Then you cant really complain when people dismiss your argument as BS.

Things that are presented without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.

So youve basically just conceded that youre wrong, in the eyes of everyone that actually matter, including CCP.

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**Author:** ![Solonius\_Rex](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solonius_rex/32/388172_2.png) [@Solonius\_Rex](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solonius_Rex)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2019, 4:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnerf-drone-aggro/168996/205 "2019-06-24T16:53:45Z")

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> [@Caitlynn\_Askyra](#):
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> How do you know you don’t like to eat dog turd if you have never tried it?

I dont know. Did I ever claim to?

I see your deduction skills are working great.

> [@Caitlynn\_Askyra](#):
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> Rorquals are the cause of the production level. Supers are the cause of NPC bounties.

Only by your word. Which, if this thread is any indication, is very very untrustworthy.

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**Author:** ![Caitlynn\_Askyra](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/caitlynn_askyra/32/460247_2.png) [@Caitlynn\_Askyra](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Caitlynn_Askyra)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2019, 4:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnerf-drone-aggro/168996/206 "2019-06-24T16:56:58Z")

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> [@Solonius\_Rex](#):
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> I dont know. Did I ever claim to?

Go eat some then.

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**Author:** ![Ranar\_Linyne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ranar_linyne/32/378478_2.png) [@Ranar\_Linyne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ranar_Linyne)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2019, 5:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnerf-drone-aggro/168996/207 "2019-06-24T17:01:09Z")

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You try the fix yet?

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**Author:** ![Solonius\_Rex](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solonius_rex/32/388172_2.png) [@Solonius\_Rex](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solonius_Rex)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2019, 5:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnerf-drone-aggro/168996/208 "2019-06-24T17:05:11Z")

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> [@Caitlynn\_Askyra](#):
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> Go eat some then.

My eating habits are not based on whether i might like something.

Ive never eaten Monkey brains before. If i do, it might be the best thing ive ever eaten. But my moral judgement is what prevents me from eating them.

With regards to VNI ratting, CCP has the same idea. They are not looking at how much enjoyment the VNI users are having, they are looking at the overall balance of the game, and the enjoyment of everyone else who doesnt use the VNI.

This is why they chose to nerf the VNIs.

Its all about what you choose to prioritize. CCP would prefer to prioritize the enjoyment of everyone, instead of just you. That is why drones are getting aggro, and will continue to get aggro.

And why you will continue to cry.

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**Author:** ![Solonius\_Rex](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solonius_rex/32/388172_2.png) [@Solonius\_Rex](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solonius_Rex)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2019, 5:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnerf-drone-aggro/168996/209 "2019-06-24T17:05:38Z")

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> [@Ranar\_Linyne](#):
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> You try the fix yet

He is too busy crying on the forums.

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**Author:** ![Dravick\_Afterthought](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dravick_afterthought/32/282017_2.png) [@Dravick\_Afterthought](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dravick_Afterthought)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2019, 5:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnerf-drone-aggro/168996/210 "2019-06-24T17:08:22Z")

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> [@Solonius\_Rex](#):
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> Ive never eaten Monkey brains before. If i do, it might be the best thing ive ever eaten.

Perhaps not, they’re considered a possible route for Ebola infection.

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**Author:** ![Caitlynn\_Askyra](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/caitlynn_askyra/32/460247_2.png) [@Caitlynn\_Askyra](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Caitlynn_Askyra)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2019, 5:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnerf-drone-aggro/168996/211 "2019-06-24T17:08:58Z")

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I’ve been working on my reaction farm today so no.

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**Author:** ![Caitlynn\_Askyra](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/caitlynn_askyra/32/460247_2.png) [@Caitlynn\_Askyra](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Caitlynn_Askyra)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2019, 5:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnerf-drone-aggro/168996/212 "2019-06-24T17:10:04Z")

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> [@Solonius\_Rex](#):
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> With regards to VNI ratting, CCP has the same idea. They are not looking at how much enjoyment the VNI users are having, they are looking at the overall balance of the game, and the enjoyment of everyone else who doesnt use the VNI.

You don’t know the meaning of the word balance.

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**Author:** ![Solonius\_Rex](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solonius_rex/32/388172_2.png) [@Solonius\_Rex](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solonius_Rex)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2019, 5:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnerf-drone-aggro/168996/213 "2019-06-24T17:14:21Z")

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> [@Caitlynn\_Askyra](#):
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> You don’t know the meaning of the word balance

More baseless accusations from you, i see?

Name calling, baseless accusations, crying. All in a days work for Caitlynn Askyra, i guess.

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**Author:** ![Caitlynn\_Askyra](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/caitlynn_askyra/32/460247_2.png) [@Caitlynn\_Askyra](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Caitlynn_Askyra)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2019, 5:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnerf-drone-aggro/168996/214 "2019-06-24T17:18:18Z")

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> [@Solonius\_Rex](#):
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> Name calling, baseless accusations, crying. All in a days work for Caitlynn Askyra, i guess.

Baseless to you yeah. But I do not care about what you think. You are a troll.

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**Author:** ![Solonius\_Rex](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solonius_rex/32/388172_2.png) [@Solonius\_Rex](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solonius_Rex)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2019, 5:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnerf-drone-aggro/168996/215 "2019-06-24T17:22:53Z")

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> [@Caitlynn\_Askyra](#):
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> Baseless to you yeah. But I do not care about what you think. You are a troll

Baseless to everyone. You never wrote the reason, remember?

I get it, you dont care about what anyone thinks. Not even CCP. All you care about is yourself.

And thats why Im happy, and you arent.

Try caring and understanding other peoples point of view for a change. You will be a lot more happy if you do.

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**Author:** ![Caitlynn\_Askyra](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/caitlynn_askyra/32/460247_2.png) [@Caitlynn\_Askyra](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Caitlynn_Askyra)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2019, 5:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnerf-drone-aggro/168996/216 "2019-06-24T17:23:34Z")

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> [@Solonius\_Rex](#):
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> Baseless to everyone. You never wrote the reason, remember?

Why waste my time when you will just say herp derp prove it.

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**Author:** ![Solonius\_Rex](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solonius_rex/32/388172_2.png) [@Solonius\_Rex](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solonius_Rex)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2019, 5:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnerf-drone-aggro/168996/217 "2019-06-24T17:28:14Z")

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> [@Caitlynn\_Askyra](#):
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> Why waste my time when you will just say herp derp prove it

Yes. Incase you didnt know, proving what you say is the opposite of a baseless accusation. Bravo for finally figuring that out.

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