# NNNNNNNNNNNNNNNerf drone aggro **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [June 23, 2019, 12:35am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnerf-drone-aggro/168996 "2019-06-23T00:35:45Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Solstice\_Projekt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solstice_projekt/32/503293_2.png) [@Solstice\_Projekt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solstice_Projekt)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2019, 8:22am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnerf-drone-aggro/168996/22 "2019-06-23T08:22:36Z")
> [@Caitlynn\_Askyra](#): > > Nobody can post anything about issues - You haven’t provided any evidence that there is an actual issue with the mechanics. - The lack of complaints on the forums and reddit further indicate that there is no issue with the mechanics. Conclusion: You’re the issue and you’re fixing it by going away. ---
**Author:** ![BOINGBOINGBOINGBOING\_BOINGOBBLEOI](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/boingboingboingboing_boingobbleoi/32/203433_2.png) [@BOINGBOINGBOINGBOING\_BOINGOBBLEOI](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/BOINGBOINGBOINGBOING_BOINGOBBLEOI)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2019, 10:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnerf-drone-aggro/168996/23 "2019-06-23T22:44:03Z")
I agree to an extent. (now everyone hates me) I fly gallente ships sometimes, and my battleship L4 runner is a hyperion. I really don’t use it much because I fly tech III now, but when I do use it my little drones get crazy agro from elite frigates. There isn’t a whole lot a hyperion can do in this case. Can’t use guns, whether your using blasters or rails. So that leaves drones, and the hyperion doesn’t have a drone HP bonus. I found it really annoying in the rare occasions I use my Hyperion. I’m not offering a one-all solution to this, because I understand the problems with having no drone agro and with botting etc. I swear it’s gotten worse over the years. My solution to the problem is to fly a tengu or proteus in L4 missions. So the drone agro isn’t game breaking, even though it makes my sexy Hyperion less desirable. ---
**Author:** ![DrysonBennington](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/drysonbennington/32/501369_2.png) [@DrysonBennington](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DrysonBennington)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2019, 10:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnerf-drone-aggro/168996/24 "2019-06-23T22:59:54Z")
Won’t happen, thanks for playing. ---
**Author:** ![Nevyn\_Auscent](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nevyn_auscent/32/255124_2.png) [@Nevyn\_Auscent](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nevyn_Auscent)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2019, 11:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnerf-drone-aggro/168996/25 "2019-06-23T23:23:07Z")
There are more elite frigates in some sites than there used to be. Also try web & grapple combo. Should slow them enough for guns. Elite frigs are meant to hate drones by design. ---
**Author:** ![Nevyn\_Auscent](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nevyn_auscent/32/255124_2.png) [@Nevyn\_Auscent](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nevyn_Auscent)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2019, 12:49am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnerf-drone-aggro/168996/27 "2019-06-24T00:49:08Z")
The point you are missing is that pure drone boats are meant to have to manage their drones. There are implants to help, you can fit remote reps, you can use ships with large drone hp bonuses, you can use navy drones who have near twice the tank. But if you don’t want to fit decent guns and get in there yourself to catch attention your drones are meant to take fire. This is intended npc behaviour, not a bug or flaw. They are not meant to mindlessly chase you and ignore the drones killing them. ---
**Author:** ![Caitlynn\_Askyra](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/caitlynn_askyra/32/460247_2.png) [@Caitlynn\_Askyra](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Caitlynn_Askyra)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2019, 12:51am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnerf-drone-aggro/168996/28 "2019-06-24T00:51:09Z")
Another completely missing the point…read what I wrote again. I already use navy drones, my drone durability skill is already 4. I never said remove drone aggro, I said nerf it to a reasonable rate where I can have some uptime with all 5 drones because that is currently impossible. ---
**Author:** ![Nevyn\_Auscent](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nevyn_auscent/32/255124_2.png) [@Nevyn\_Auscent](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nevyn_Auscent)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2019, 1:02am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnerf-drone-aggro/168996/29 "2019-06-24T01:02:02Z")
I manage fine uptime in the abyss which is drone rage central. Try one of the other options I listed. Like actually using your ship in some way. Again, this is intended behaviour, it is not an issue, you are not meant to be able to always keep 100% of your DPS applied. Every other weapon type has it’s own issues applying dps also and often applies below 100% of paper dps too. ---
**Author:** ![Caitlynn\_Askyra](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/caitlynn_askyra/32/460247_2.png) [@Caitlynn\_Askyra](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Caitlynn_Askyra)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2019, 1:08am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnerf-drone-aggro/168996/30 "2019-06-24T01:08:38Z")
I’m talking about havens and sanctums in nullsec, where the issue definitely does exist. Seriously you just don’t understand the issue so there is zero point trying to talk to you. A 20 to 40% damage reduction in these sites over doubles the time it takes to complete them because the rats have an opportunity to repair much more. It’s not fun and it’s not balanced. This is an indisputable fact. ---
**Author:** ![Ranar\_Linyne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ranar_linyne/32/378478_2.png) [@Ranar\_Linyne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ranar_Linyne)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2019, 1:15am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnerf-drone-aggro/168996/31 "2019-06-24T01:15:07Z")
> [@Caitlynn\_Askyra](#): > > havens and sanctums in nullsec Not really dude. If your drones are being focused in those sites you have the drone agro glitch. Barring that you are too far from the rats or some other nonsense that allows them to switch. Executed properly, without the glith, you can endlessly run those sites without losing a single drone. THAT is the problem with null anoms. They either need to drop stasis towers in the anoms or make the rats eat drones like you are experiencing all the time. ---
**Author:** ![Caitlynn\_Askyra](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/caitlynn_askyra/32/460247_2.png) [@Caitlynn\_Askyra](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Caitlynn_Askyra)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2019, 1:24am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnerf-drone-aggro/168996/32 "2019-06-24T01:24:11Z")
> [@Ranar\_Linyne](#): > > Not really dude. If your drones are being focused in those sites you have the drone agro glitch Well if it’s a glitch then it needs to be fixed. > [@Ranar\_Linyne](#): > > Executed properly, without the glith, you can endlessly run those sites without losing a single drone. THAT is the problem with null anoms. They either need to drop stasis towers in the anoms or make the rats eat drones like you are experiencing all the time. Why do low income ratters need suppressing, the problem with null sec is pretty much goons and their rorquals and supercarriers/carriers ratting under a capital umbrella and earning 100’s of millions an hour. How am I supposed to afford PVP or anything like that if VNI ratting is considered too high of an income lol. People need to get real seriously… ---
**Author:** ![Ranar\_Linyne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ranar_linyne/32/378478_2.png) [@Ranar\_Linyne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ranar_Linyne)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2019, 1:27am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnerf-drone-aggro/168996/33 "2019-06-24T01:27:27Z")
It’s not active players that are the problem, it’s bots & afk ratting. It shouldn’t be that brainless. ---
**Author:** ![Caitlynn\_Askyra](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/caitlynn_askyra/32/460247_2.png) [@Caitlynn\_Askyra](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Caitlynn_Askyra)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2019, 1:31am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnerf-drone-aggro/168996/34 "2019-06-24T01:31:53Z")
Why is it more of a problem than the above? It’s not yet everyone seems to think that is fine. ---
**Author:** ![Nevyn\_Auscent](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nevyn_auscent/32/255124_2.png) [@Nevyn\_Auscent](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nevyn_Auscent)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2019, 1:35am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnerf-drone-aggro/168996/35 "2019-06-24T01:35:04Z")
Because scale. It’s easy to drop 10 or 20 VNIs at once if your drones are safe. Supers can’t be scaled like that. ---
**Author:** ![Caitlynn\_Askyra](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/caitlynn_askyra/32/460247_2.png) [@Caitlynn\_Askyra](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Caitlynn_Askyra)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2019, 1:37am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnerf-drone-aggro/168996/36 "2019-06-24T01:37:48Z")
…and then it’s easy to identify as a potential botting player. ---
**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2019, 1:38am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnerf-drone-aggro/168996/37 "2019-06-24T01:38:06Z")
> [@Caitlynn\_Askyra](#): > > If you think that is great game design then you are simply retarded, just like everyone else who is disagreeing for the sake of disagreeing and then making dumb suggestions which are completely useless because they don’t have a ■■■■■■■ clue what they are talking about. Don’t we have to recall drones between spawns so that the npcs will focus our ships then release the dogs back out of their pen to attack? ---
**Author:** ![Caitlynn\_Askyra](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/caitlynn_askyra/32/460247_2.png) [@Caitlynn\_Askyra](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Caitlynn_Askyra)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2019, 1:38am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnerf-drone-aggro/168996/38 "2019-06-24T01:38:58Z")
> [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](#): > > Don’t we have to recall drones between spawns so that the npcs will focus our ships then release the dogs back out of their pen to attack? It doesn’t do anything, if you do this as soon as you let them attack again the rats target them. ---
**Author:** ![Ranar\_Linyne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ranar_linyne/32/378478_2.png) [@Ranar\_Linyne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ranar_Linyne)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2019, 1:39am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnerf-drone-aggro/168996/39 "2019-06-24T01:39:05Z")
> [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](#): > > Don’t we have to recall drones between spawns so that the npcs will focus our ships then release the dogs back out of their pen to attack? No, that’s not a thing. Warp in, drop heavies, prop on, set orbit, grab popcorn… ---
**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2019, 1:41am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnerf-drone-aggro/168996/40 "2019-06-24T01:41:25Z")
> [@Caitlynn\_Askyra](#): > > It doesn’t do anything, if you do this as soon as you let them attack again the rats target them. > [@Ranar\_Linyne](#): > > No, that’s not a thing. Okay then, I will put my hand up that I was disagreeing cause of the sake of disagreeing when I up voted the comment about “use sentry drones” ---
**Author:** ![Caitlynn\_Askyra](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/caitlynn_askyra/32/460247_2.png) [@Caitlynn\_Askyra](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Caitlynn_Askyra)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2019, 1:44am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnerf-drone-aggro/168996/41 "2019-06-24T01:44:00Z")
> [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](#): > > Okay then, I will put my hand up that I was disagreeing cause of the sake of disagreeing when I up voted the comment about “use sentry drones” Sentry drones aren’t worth it unless you get ship bonuses for them. Their DPS is awful otherwise. ---
**Author:** ![Ranar\_Linyne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ranar_linyne/32/378478_2.png) [@Ranar\_Linyne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ranar_Linyne)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2019, 1:46am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnerf-drone-aggro/168996/42 "2019-06-24T01:46:24Z")
> [@Caitlynn\_Askyra](#): > > Sentry drones are bad ass if you are in a ship thats bonused and can face tank the anom you are in. fix’t it [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnerf-drone-aggro/168996.md?page=1) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnerf-drone-aggro/168996.md?page=3)