# No gambling and microtransactions in EVE. Jita monument needs some love **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [November 27, 2019, 7:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/no-gambling-and-microtransactions-in-eve-jita-monument-needs-some-love/203137 "2019-11-27T19:06:38Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Sordina1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sordina1/32/158264_2.png) [@Sordina1](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sordina1)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2019, 7:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/no-gambling-and-microtransactions-in-eve-jita-monument-needs-some-love/203137/1 "2019-11-27T19:06:38Z")
If community will allow this type of gambling. Nothing will stop CCP in future. Golden ammo, Invulnerability timers soon in NES. ---
**Author:** ![BOINGBOINGBOINGBOING\_BOINGOBBLEOI](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/boingboingboingboing_boingobbleoi/32/203433_2.png) [@BOINGBOINGBOINGBOING\_BOINGOBBLEOI](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/BOINGBOINGBOINGBOING_BOINGOBBLEOI)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2019, 8:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/no-gambling-and-microtransactions-in-eve-jita-monument-needs-some-love/203137/2 "2019-11-27T20:10:51Z")
I think it’s great. Watching CCP floundering as they try to develop a predatory gambling system. CCP, FULL SPEED AHEAD! Also in before locked. ---
**Author:** ![Karak\_Terrel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/karak_terrel/32/373453_2.png) [@Karak\_Terrel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Karak_Terrel)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2019, 8:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/no-gambling-and-microtransactions-in-eve-jita-monument-needs-some-love/203137/3 "2019-11-27T20:20:48Z")
The thing with the monument happened at a time where EVE was populated by players that still cared about the game. Not going to happen anymore. ---
**Author:** ![Sordina1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sordina1/32/158264_2.png) [@Sordina1](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sordina1)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2019, 8:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/no-gambling-and-microtransactions-in-eve-jita-monument-needs-some-love/203137/4 "2019-11-27T20:34:15Z")
I will surprise you. There are still players that care about game. ---
**Author:** ![Karak\_Terrel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/karak_terrel/32/373453_2.png) [@Karak\_Terrel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Karak_Terrel)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2019, 8:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/no-gambling-and-microtransactions-in-eve-jita-monument-needs-some-love/203137/5 "2019-11-27T20:36:56Z")
Yeah sure, if you say so ---
**Author:** ![Forum\_Posting\_Alt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/forum_posting_alt/32/254303_2.png) [@Forum\_Posting\_Alt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Forum_Posting_Alt)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2019, 9:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/no-gambling-and-microtransactions-in-eve-jita-monument-needs-some-love/203137/6 "2019-11-27T21:34:06Z")
Give up, sell up, keep one account going (with your accumulated wealth - plex) so you can watch it all crash and burn đź’«đź’Ą ---
**Author:** ![Gneeznow](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gneeznow/32/138237_2.png) [@Gneeznow](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gneeznow)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2019, 10:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/no-gambling-and-microtransactions-in-eve-jita-monument-needs-some-love/203137/7 "2019-11-27T22:06:18Z")
> [@Sordina1](#): > > There are still players that care about game Not really though, rip 🙉 ---
**Author:** ![DeMichael\_Crimson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/demichael_crimson/32/514115_2.png) [@DeMichael\_Crimson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DeMichael_Crimson)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2019, 11:18am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/no-gambling-and-microtransactions-in-eve-jita-monument-needs-some-love/203137/8 "2019-11-28T11:18:32Z")
> [@Karak\_Terrel](#): > > The thing with the monument happened at a time where EVE was populated by players Populated by a lot of players. At least 2 to 3 times more than the current amount. ---
**Author:** ![zazzmatazz\_Xu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zazzmatazz_xu/32/451037_2.png) [@zazzmatazz\_Xu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/zazzmatazz_Xu)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2019, 11:58am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/no-gambling-and-microtransactions-in-eve-jita-monument-needs-some-love/203137/9 "2019-11-28T11:58:07Z")
The last vestige of bitter vets remain, if ccp is going to survive longer it may be through microtransactions and a new breed that want to pay for advantages, all honesty the super blocks do have this game locked down because of years on any new folks incoming. The game has stagnanted because of super blocks and the control they have over all aspects of the game and while I am not placing the blame entirely on super blocks they are the 1% of the game and the peasants below can’t even have a structure in high sec as the super blocks are starting to move into high sec too leaving less for the peasants so what can be done when the 1% and their apologest don’t allow any movement. ---
**Author:** ![Xuxe\_Xu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xuxe_xu/32/464660_2.png) [@Xuxe\_Xu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xuxe_Xu)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2019, 12:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/no-gambling-and-microtransactions-in-eve-jita-monument-needs-some-love/203137/10 "2019-11-28T12:24:50Z")
> [@Sordina1](#): > > If community will allow… Not a matter of allowing or not, I’m afraid…community has no control…jita riot days are past. PA doesn’t _need_ subscribers to EvE at all, it’s just nice for them to have EvE bringing in extra money. imo PA bought ccp for their established permissions and connections for doing business in the potentially lucrative Chinese gaming market, not for EvE. We have no power here. Enjoy the ride or get off of the horse are our only options. ---
**Author:** ![Sordina1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sordina1/32/158264_2.png) [@Sordina1](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sordina1)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2019, 12:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/no-gambling-and-microtransactions-in-eve-jita-monument-needs-some-love/203137/11 "2019-11-28T12:40:33Z")
Then why they make year long bullish about player retention and waste resources (money) on changing NPE, when they planed this last milking journey for EVE? Community has all control. But main problem is that community seams to not care. ---
**Author:** ![Xuxe\_Xu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xuxe_xu/32/464660_2.png) [@Xuxe\_Xu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xuxe_Xu)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2019, 1:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/no-gambling-and-microtransactions-in-eve-jita-monument-needs-some-love/203137/12 "2019-11-28T13:22:28Z")
> [@Sordina1](#): > > Then why… I don’t think it’s necessarily the last part of EvE’s journey…just that there has been a massive paradigm shift for EvE players the moment ccp sold to PA…EvE is no longer the main income of it’s parent company but rather an extra and non-critical income source. The why retention stuff is why not keep the extra income source going. We can probably expect EvE to get more “milky”. > [@Sordina1](#): > > Community has all control. Well…we disagree on that, then. o7 ---
**Author:** ![Foggy\_Bernstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/foggy_bernstein/32/407887_2.png) [@Foggy\_Bernstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Foggy_Bernstein)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2019, 3:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/no-gambling-and-microtransactions-in-eve-jita-monument-needs-some-love/203137/13 "2019-11-28T15:45:15Z")
> [@Sordina1](#): > > If community will allow this type of gambling. Considering how much the community freaked out from the removal of gambling from the game, I’m guessing this will be the single largest income generator CCP has come up with yet. Far more income than even subs and PLEX sales. As for whether it’s morally right. Well…it’s a video game based on being dicks to each other, innit? Morals are moot in this instance. ---
**Author:** ![alpha\_charlie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/alpha_charlie/32/279991_2.png) [@alpha\_charlie](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/alpha_charlie)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2019, 11:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/no-gambling-and-microtransactions-in-eve-jita-monument-needs-some-love/203137/14 "2019-12-05T23:51:46Z")
Well lad, long time. Tried messaging but didn’t know how. Hope all is well ---
**Author:** ![Gneeznow](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gneeznow/32/138237_2.png) [@Gneeznow](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gneeznow)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2019, 12:55am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/no-gambling-and-microtransactions-in-eve-jita-monument-needs-some-love/203137/15 "2019-12-06T00:55:58Z")
Hey buddy, have you on steam but it shows you’re not about for 4 years now. You got a discord or something? I uninstalled eve only yesterday to install something else so I can’t read your mail. ---
**Author:** ![Verlyn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/verlyn/32/435163_2.png) [@Verlyn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Verlyn)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2019, 8:11am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/no-gambling-and-microtransactions-in-eve-jita-monument-needs-some-love/203137/16 "2019-12-06T08:11:45Z")
Game is PA’s milkcow for now until the end. Hellmar and co. got their money’s worth (hardly imo … ). Leave or stay, nothing matters much anymore. ---
**Author:** ![Karak\_Terrel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/karak_terrel/32/373453_2.png) [@Karak\_Terrel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Karak_Terrel)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2019, 9:48am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/no-gambling-and-microtransactions-in-eve-jita-monument-needs-some-love/203137/17 "2019-12-06T09:48:20Z")
> [@zazzmatazz\_Xu](#): > > if ccp is going to survive longer it may be through microtransactions and a new breed that want to pay for advantages Stands to reason how sustainable that will be. The inpatient crowd that favors pay for advantages (a.k.a. p2w) isn’t really known for staying around with the same game. ---
**Author:** ![Felishka\_Ashikov](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/felishka_ashikov/32/173481_2.png) [@Felishka\_Ashikov](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Felishka_Ashikov)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2019, 9:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/no-gambling-and-microtransactions-in-eve-jita-monument-needs-some-love/203137/18 "2019-12-06T21:50:42Z")
Instead of Burn Jita, how about, Mine the Market. By that, I mean sell every type of ore for 1 isk per unit in the market hubs. How people get the ore is another thing (mine it, steal it, buy/sell it etc). Make the basics of Eve completely worthless ---
**Author:** ![Duro\_Peripar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/duro_peripar/32/168259_2.png) [@Duro\_Peripar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Duro_Peripar)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2019, 9:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/no-gambling-and-microtransactions-in-eve-jita-monument-needs-some-love/203137/19 "2019-12-06T21:56:25Z")
Things like they do actually will produce income for CCP and this is what is needed most… The alternative would be a closed server,so either that “gambling(which is no gambling at all)” or the end of eve… The end will not come through hyper net going live,it will come through YOU trying to deny it and CCP giving in to your pity demands… You can choose… And yes…it’s THAT serious… ---
**Author:** ![Felishka\_Ashikov](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/felishka_ashikov/32/173481_2.png) [@Felishka\_Ashikov](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Felishka_Ashikov)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2019, 10:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/no-gambling-and-microtransactions-in-eve-jita-monument-needs-some-love/203137/20 "2019-12-06T22:15:43Z")
> [@Duro\_Peripar](#): > > Things like they do actually will produce income for CCP and this is what is needed most… > > The alternative would be a closed server,so either that “gambling(which is no gambling at all)” or the end of eve… > > The end will not come through hyper net going live,it will come through YOU trying to deny it and CCP giving in to your pity demands… > > You can choose… > > And yes…it’s THAT serious… Another alternative is that nobody goes for it (or at least, a low enough % of people to make it viable for CCP). Not going for it won’t kill Eve, not by a long shot. I’m not sure about your reasoning about denying hypernet killing Eve though? That sounds awfully made up. Care to evidence your claim? [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/no-gambling-and-microtransactions-in-eve-jita-monument-needs-some-love/203137.md?page=2)