# No gambling and microtransactions in EVE. Jita monument needs some love **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [November 27, 2019, 7:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/no-gambling-and-microtransactions-in-eve-jita-monument-needs-some-love/203137 "2019-11-27T19:06:38Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 13\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Duro\_Peripar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/duro_peripar/32/168259_2.png) [@Duro\_Peripar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Duro_Peripar)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2019, 3:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/no-gambling-and-microtransactions-in-eve-jita-monument-needs-some-love/203137/41 "2019-12-07T15:56:22Z")
> [@Sordina1](#): > > But by all of they players around here that don’t give a ■■■■ and don’t care about game future. I feel like I’m forced to not share my opinion and concerns. Well CCP cares and do the right thing to protect the game… THOSE that deny those changes are putting this game into danger because of their stubborness and unwillingness to a needed change just because “it was always so” and “It has to stay as it always was”… Them not seeing it that way is part of the problem. They have to arrive in 2019 where things like hyper net in various forms are totally normal in the market. They should leave if they cannot stand normal things like hyper net without any drama or trying to tell the whole world about it. ---
**Author:** ![Sordina1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sordina1/32/158264_2.png) [@Sordina1](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sordina1)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2019, 5:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/no-gambling-and-microtransactions-in-eve-jita-monument-needs-some-love/203137/42 "2019-12-07T17:20:31Z")
> [@Duro\_Peripar](#): > > They have to arrive in 2019 where things like hyper net in various forms are totally normal in the market. They arrived to 2019. Where most countries and whole UE is working on blocking loot boxes and gambling in online games. Just saying… ---
**Author:** ![Compo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/compo/32/167680_2.png) [@Compo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Compo)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2019, 9:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/no-gambling-and-microtransactions-in-eve-jita-monument-needs-some-love/203137/44 "2019-12-07T21:44:24Z")
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**Author:** ![Duro\_Peripar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/duro_peripar/32/168259_2.png) [@Duro\_Peripar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Duro_Peripar)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2019, 11:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/no-gambling-and-microtransactions-in-eve-jita-monument-needs-some-love/203137/45 "2019-12-07T23:46:42Z")
> [@Gowa\_Hyasyoda](#): > > Gambling is actually gambling. Only illegal gambling is illegal gambling. > > Countries around the world are currently trying to change laws for years to stop gambling in video games. > > CCP/PA wants to finally dip their toe into a multi-million dollar part of the micro-transaction market they are focused around already to rake in that sweet gambling cash profits before the laws finally change which may take years. > > Gambling is legal in many forms in even the strictest countries and while there might be a lot of social pressure to change laws because of worries over addiction issues at the end of the day governments only care (so far) about the cash end of gambling. > > Since you can’t legally sell PLEX/ISK and in game assets for cash it isn’t an illegal form of gambling and even if you could legally cash out your winnings all CCP would have to do is give the game an adult rating and acquire gambling licenses for it to be legal again. > > Maybe they will change the laws to recognize RMT as a cash-end to gambling in Eve online but that will just be one subtext to other laws they are already going to take years to change/create anyways. > > CCP might change their ethics because of social pressure from the community but they are a business and the law allows them to do this and the governments are happy to take in all the sales tax it will make them. > > If you want to point blame, go after you governments taking their sweet time to make or change laws against gambling in video games. They are the reason gambling is allowed in video games right now not because a business tries to make money legally according to their laws. > > They are going to spend years telling you gambling is bad, to vote for them, that they are doing everything in their power to stop gambling in video games. Profiting from it themselves the whole time start to finish… > > If it was illegal they wouldn’t be allowed to do it . You cannot confuse the deniers with the reality… They have an opinion written in stone that they and only they are right and anybody that tries to convince them otherwise MUST be a troll and only deserves to be ignored… The reality of the law is nothing those guys are accepting… And CCP will change NOTHING “because of the pressure of the community” because there IS no “pressure”. Just a couple of loudmouthed people that are stuck in their 2005 bubble and refuse to see the fact that a game has to change in order to survive…something i say for YEARS now… ---
**Author:** ![Duro\_Peripar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/duro_peripar/32/168259_2.png) [@Duro\_Peripar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Duro_Peripar)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2019, 12:02am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/no-gambling-and-microtransactions-in-eve-jita-monument-needs-some-love/203137/46 "2019-12-08T00:02:59Z")
> [@Sordina1](#): > > They arrived to 2019. Where most countries and whole UE is working on blocking loot boxes and gambling in online games. Just saying… In your dream maybe…in the reality those will cashed in by courts that review this law…in every single country this will happen… ---
**Author:** ![Karol\_Godula](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/karol_godula/32/391303_2.png) [@Karol\_Godula](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Karol_Godula)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2019, 2:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/no-gambling-and-microtransactions-in-eve-jita-monument-needs-some-love/203137/47 "2019-12-11T14:52:38Z")
Lol, UE enough said, all they’re good at is banning and telling others how to live their lives. ---
**Author:** ![Rocket\_Hellfire](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rocket_hellfire/32/396905_2.png) [@Rocket\_Hellfire](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rocket_Hellfire)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2019, 4:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/no-gambling-and-microtransactions-in-eve-jita-monument-needs-some-love/203137/48 "2019-12-11T16:27:13Z")
2 hours on HNR. Dropped 750 Mill on nodes. I’m currently at +2B with half a dozen more waiting to finish. LOL!! Thx CCP for removing all need to actually play the game. o/ ---
**Author:** ![Anhur\_Shu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anhur_shu/32/169315_2.png) [@Anhur\_Shu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anhur_Shu)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2019, 4:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/no-gambling-and-microtransactions-in-eve-jita-monument-needs-some-love/203137/49 "2019-12-11T16:56:14Z")
> [@Duro\_Peripar](#): > > They have to arrive in 2019 where things like hyper net in various forms are totally normal in the market. > > They should leave if they cannot stand normal things like hyper net without any drama or trying to tell the whole world about it. People like YOU are why the entire gaming industry is in shambles today, with your ‘shrug your shoulders’ way of thinking “well, the game has to make money, so mtx is a good thing.” Here’s an idea…want to make money with a game? …wait for it… MAKE A GOOD GAME! HyperNet isn’t going to bring people to the game. If anything it’ll drive people away, so here’s a golf clap for you and everyone else that thinks mtx are good for games. Way to drive people away…bravo! ---
**Author:** ![Duro\_Peripar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/duro_peripar/32/168259_2.png) [@Duro\_Peripar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Duro_Peripar)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2019, 9:21am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/no-gambling-and-microtransactions-in-eve-jita-monument-needs-some-love/203137/50 "2019-12-12T09:21:10Z")
> [@Anhur\_Shu](#): > > People like YOU are why the entire gaming industry is in shambles today, with your ‘shrug your shoulders’ way of thinking “well, the game has to make money, so mtx is a good thing.” > > Here’s an idea…want to make money with a game? > > …wait for it… > > MAKE A GOOD GAME! > > HyperNet isn’t going to bring people to the game. If anything it’ll drive people away, so here’s a golf clap for you and everyone else that thinks mtx are good for games. Way to drive people away…bravo! You mean “people like ME” that have an actual sense of what the game needs in 2019? All that “people like YOU” want is to reinstate the status of 2005 “when eve was good last time”… Backward thinking like “YOU” do will kill this game not moving it into the future… BTW welcome to the 2019 reality… ---
**Author:** ![Mevatla\_Vekraspek](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mevatla_vekraspek/32/377519_2.png) [@Mevatla\_Vekraspek](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mevatla_Vekraspek)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2019, 9:43am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/no-gambling-and-microtransactions-in-eve-jita-monument-needs-some-love/203137/51 "2019-12-12T09:43:31Z")
Stupid remains stupid, wether it’s 2019, 2274 or 745BC… ---
**Author:** ![Ai\_Salt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ai_salt/32/173742_2.png) [@Ai\_Salt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ai_Salt)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2019, 7:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/no-gambling-and-microtransactions-in-eve-jita-monument-needs-some-love/203137/52 "2019-12-12T19:41:39Z")
Not all income is good income in the long run, this is short term income, with a bad ending. Mark my words, this happend most top MMORPG, and most of them regret it and is trying to go back to the old style where players cared for them. ---
**Author:** ![Sordina1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sordina1/32/158264_2.png) [@Sordina1](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sordina1)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2019, 9:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/no-gambling-and-microtransactions-in-eve-jita-monument-needs-some-love/203137/53 "2019-12-12T21:04:16Z")
Looking at amount of spam in jita. I bet they still have wild party in CCP headquarters after that release. But soon hiccup will come. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/4/1/41ec4921cbaca7a6f9ea556e7cc20018461eae5e.png) [@system](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2020, 9:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/no-gambling-and-microtransactions-in-eve-jita-monument-needs-some-love/203137/54 "2020-03-11T21:04:18Z")
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