# No incentive to buy injectors after 50 mill SP **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [February 23, 2018, 10:34am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/no-incentive-to-buy-injectors-after-50-mill-sp/59260 "2018-02-23T10:34:02Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 10\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Awesome\_Possum](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/awesome_possum/32/54051_2.png) [@Awesome\_Possum](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Awesome_Possum)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2018, 9:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/no-incentive-to-buy-injectors-after-50-mill-sp/59260/22 "2018-02-23T21:35:14Z")
> [@JC\_Mieyli](#): > > you probably also trained your destroyers and bcs to 5 back when it was just one skill for each > now you have to train 4 skills for each -Learning skills to 5, adv learning skills to 4 checkmate ---
**Author:** ![Mizhir](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mizhir/32/379234_2.png) [@Mizhir](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mizhir)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2018, 9:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/no-incentive-to-buy-injectors-after-50-mill-sp/59260/23 "2018-02-23T21:36:08Z")
Learning skills were cancer and benefitted absolutely noone. It was a horrible game mechanic that never should have been there. ---
**Author:** ![Ebony\_Dallas](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ebony_dallas/32/23531_2.png) [@Ebony\_Dallas](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ebony_Dallas)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2018, 9:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/no-incentive-to-buy-injectors-after-50-mill-sp/59260/24 "2018-02-23T21:41:47Z")
the DR on injectors is painful once above 80mil sp… there is no point to even purchase. im at 100mil sp and was testing the difference between a large skill injector vs a small injector on one of several lvl 5 skills and the end result was… its better to wait for a ccp server break and get free sp instead of wasting isk… it tickled my skill que to the point of only dropping an hour… I laughed about it ---
**Author:** ![Gadget\_Helmsdottir](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gadget_helmsdottir/32/374037_2.png) [@Gadget\_Helmsdottir](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gadget_Helmsdottir)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2018, 9:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/no-incentive-to-buy-injectors-after-50-mill-sp/59260/25 "2018-02-23T21:42:23Z")
Did you sterilize that? Hate to see you get Space Herpes. ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/4/9/49c8c8e7c9a1532ae58631cf461e19a22f255ff6.jpg) –Gadget loves the classics ---
**Author:** ![Old\_Pervert](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/old_pervert/32/149708_2.png) [@Old\_Pervert](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Old_Pervert)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2018, 10:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/no-incentive-to-buy-injectors-after-50-mill-sp/59260/26 "2018-02-23T22:01:42Z")
Optimal approach for injector efficiency is to wait until you’re rolling an alt for something. Start by injecting about 10 million SP, then start your training. Save the 10 million SP for skills that aren’t on optimal attribute skills. For example I generally always start with Int/Mem to get support skills up. Biggest problem there though, is sometimes there are pre-reqs that are outside of those optimals. For example, Tactical Logistics Reconfig. It requires Logi Cruiser 5, which of course is will/percept. So, train up the Int/Mem skills, then when it’s time to train up logi cruiser 5 prior to your taclog, you just inject all of logi cruiser. Saves you a remap, and like 500 days worth of training lol. Other alternative I guess would be to train either logi cruiser or tactical logistics on sub-optimal attribute maps. But I’m not nearly that patient. ~~ Overall, the goal isn’t to help high SP players get more SP. It’s to help low SP players catch up to high SP players, so taht they can start flying the “fun” doctrines faster. ---
**Author:** ![Abyss\_Azizora](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/abyss_azizora/32/15938_2.png) [@Abyss\_Azizora](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Abyss_Azizora)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2018, 3:09am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/no-incentive-to-buy-injectors-after-50-mill-sp/59260/27 "2018-02-24T03:09:05Z")
> [@Gadget\_Helmsdottir](#): > > Did you sterilize that? > > Hate to see you get Space Herpes. > > ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/4/9/49c8c8e7c9a1532ae58631cf461e19a22f255ff6.jpg) > > –Gadget loves the classics Ok I give up, where is that from? ---
**Author:** ![Nasar\_Vyron](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nasar_vyron/32/264128_2.png) [@Nasar\_Vyron](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nasar_Vyron)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2018, 4:51am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/no-incentive-to-buy-injectors-after-50-mill-sp/59260/28 "2018-02-24T04:51:07Z")
You do realize those hashtags were entirely satire of the typical bitter vet right? The rest however was very serious. instant gratification destroys games by undermining any sense of progression - and usually balance right along side. All it does is rush people on to the next game once they pay to obtain their goals before they can make any connections in game to make them want to stick around. That comment btw isn’t solely related to EVE. Ask any developer and they’ll tell you exactly the same thing. Good for profit, horrible for longevity and keeping people interested past their first few weeks. ---
**Author:** ![Stormsurge](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/stormsurge/32/18231_2.png) [@Stormsurge](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Stormsurge)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2018, 5:03am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/no-incentive-to-buy-injectors-after-50-mill-sp/59260/29 "2018-02-24T05:03:23Z")
![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/9/7/9749441a6dc99652b6a5c3ee0488a943f87f06c5.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![Gadget\_Helmsdottir](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gadget_helmsdottir/32/374037_2.png) [@Gadget\_Helmsdottir](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gadget_Helmsdottir)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2018, 8:02am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/no-incentive-to-buy-injectors-after-50-mill-sp/59260/30 "2018-02-24T08:02:56Z")
Ice Pirates. > **[The Ice Pirates (1984)](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0087451/)** > > Directed by Stewart Raffill. With Robert Urich, Mary Crosby, Michael D. Roberts, Anjelica Huston. In the far future water is the most valuable substance. Two space pirates are captured, sold to a princess, and recruited to help her find her father... –Yarrrr. Gadget ---
**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/4/1/41ec4921cbaca7a6f9ea556e7cc20018461eae5e.png) [@system](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2018, 8:02am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/no-incentive-to-buy-injectors-after-50-mill-sp/59260/31 "2018-05-25T08:02:57Z")
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