# No to Breacher Pods **URL:** \ **Category:** PvP Ships & Modules\ **Created:** [October 27, 2024, 6:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/no-to-breacher-pods/466034 "2024-10-27T18:17:38Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 9
**Author:** ![stefnia\_Freir](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/stefnia_freir/32/390048_2.png) [@stefnia\_Freir](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/stefnia_Freir)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2024, 6:38am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/no-to-breacher-pods/466034/161 "2024-11-14T06:38:40Z")
Except bombs don’t deal 75% of the ship HP through resist , and they don’t ignore sig. Please, learn to read. ---
**Author:** ![Gerard\_Amatin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gerard_amatin/32/481361_2.png) [@Gerard\_Amatin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gerard_Amatin)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2024, 7:12am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/no-to-breacher-pods/466034/162 "2024-11-14T07:12:26Z")
Indeed, bombs don’t have a 75% limit and can stack and deal 100% of the ship HP with enough bombers. This comparison falls flat! /s ---
**Author:** ![stefnia\_Freir](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/stefnia_freir/32/390048_2.png) [@stefnia\_Freir](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/stefnia_Freir)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2024, 10:03am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/no-to-breacher-pods/466034/163 "2024-11-14T10:03:35Z")
ho yeah, with enough ships you can bring down another ship ! You are pathetic. Indeed, it is not a description of a bomb run. Tell that to the person who pretended it was one instead of repeating the same stupid arguments for the sole ■■■■■■■ sake of trolling, after cherry picking specific words to bicker on instead of answering the actual content. ---
**Author:** ![Gerard\_Amatin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gerard_amatin/32/481361_2.png) [@Gerard\_Amatin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gerard_Amatin)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2024, 10:46am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/no-to-breacher-pods/466034/164 "2024-11-14T10:46:04Z")
I agree it’s not a bomb run. For one, they wrongly assumed the new ships have no targeting delay like bombers. You cannot hit and run like that in these new ships, anyone with tackle will be able to hold you down even before you manage to fire your weapon. ---
**Author:** ![stefnia\_Freir](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/stefnia_freir/32/390048_2.png) [@stefnia\_Freir](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/stefnia_Freir)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2024, 11:06am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/no-to-breacher-pods/466034/165 "2024-11-14T11:06:31Z")
They don’t care. The ships has enough mids to survive, and the web resist makes it sure BS can’t hit it close - even BC made for long range can’t. They are not bombers. The comparison with bombers makes no sense. You pretending that they are worse than bomber for reason X or else is a plain troll. ---
**Author:** ![Tweek\_Etimua](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tweek_etimua/32/408559_2.png) [@Tweek\_Etimua](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tweek_Etimua)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2024, 3:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/no-to-breacher-pods/466034/166 "2024-11-14T15:27:32Z")
It’s good to make true solo pvp dangerous and very difficult. It’s also good to make fleets want to consider logi pilots as a necessity. Breacher pods do both. ---
**Author:** ![stefnia\_Freir](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/stefnia_freir/32/390048_2.png) [@stefnia\_Freir](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/stefnia_Freir)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2024, 4:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/no-to-breacher-pods/466034/167 "2024-11-14T16:26:19Z")
No, it’s not. Stop pretending your wishful thinking is truth. ---
**Author:** ![Gerard\_Amatin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gerard_amatin/32/481361_2.png) [@Gerard\_Amatin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gerard_Amatin)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2024, 6:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/no-to-breacher-pods/466034/168 "2024-11-14T18:12:55Z")
Yea, how dare these people pretend their wishful thinking is truth. Don’t they know the only truth is stefnia’s wishful thinking? ---
**Author:** ![Syzygium](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/syzygium/32/510263_2.png) [@Syzygium](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Syzygium)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2024, 6:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/no-to-breacher-pods/466034/169 "2024-11-14T18:26:21Z")
> [@Tweek\_Etimua](#): > > It’s good to make true solo pvp dangerous and very difficult. > It’s also good to make fleets want to consider logi pilots as a necessity. > Breacher pods do both. Thank you Sir, thats the most serious looking cynism I have read here for a long time. Nicely done, it put a smile on my face! 🙂 However, we can stop the discussion, the damage is done and EVE will keep bleeding. Isn’t that a funny coincidence? 🤣 ---
**Author:** ![stefnia\_Freir](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/stefnia_freir/32/390048_2.png) [@stefnia\_Freir](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/stefnia_Freir)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2024, 10:52am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/no-to-breacher-pods/466034/170 "2024-11-15T10:52:04Z")
> [@Gerard\_Amatin](#): > > Don’t they know the only truth is stefnia’s wishful thinking? What is asserted without a proof, is dismissed without a proof. Seems like you don’t know the basics of logic. ---
**Author:** ![Gerard\_Amatin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gerard_amatin/32/481361_2.png) [@Gerard\_Amatin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gerard_Amatin)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2024, 11:04am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/no-to-breacher-pods/466034/171 "2024-11-15T11:04:15Z")
Yes, and what other players say is ‘wishful thinking’ while what you say is ‘truth’. It’s easy to dismiss what others say as wishful thinking. ---
**Author:** ![stefnia\_Freir](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/stefnia_freir/32/390048_2.png) [@stefnia\_Freir](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/stefnia_Freir)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2024, 11:28am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/no-to-breacher-pods/466034/172 "2024-11-15T11:28:39Z")
> [@Gerard\_Amatin](#): > > Yes, and what other players say is ‘wishful thinking’ while what you say is ‘truth’. That’s a personal attack. The fact that I can also present wishful thinking does not make this less of one. What’s more, you did not make any claim on those wishful thinkings of mine. So what you are saying now, is defamation. And yes, when people are making argument considering what they would like as existing, it’s easy to dismiss it as wishful thinking - because that’s what it is. Please strop trolling. A correct argument would have been an off topic one, that is for whom making “true solo pvp dangerous and very difficult” really is good. This would have led to the conclusion that what is good for one is bad for the other, and as such this blanket statement was a farce to start with. But since you know it’s wrong before you even start the off-topic, you rather go with personal attacks and defamation, unable to acknowledge the absurd of those claims, and of your opinion in general. Your trolling is pathetic. ---
**Author:** ![Gerard\_Amatin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gerard_amatin/32/481361_2.png) [@Gerard\_Amatin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gerard_Amatin)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2024, 1:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/no-to-breacher-pods/466034/173 "2024-11-15T13:41:16Z")
I’m just tired seeing you lash out at people so please excuse me that I don’t waste the time each time to present a full argument when you lash out at someone, and instead make sarcastic comments. It’s a lot more fun that way, which is something your behaviour is lacking. Fun. You’re often quick to throw insults and thereby make the forum a less enjoyable place. For example, just look at your last post. Please stop that. Shall we go back to the topic of breacher pods? Has anyone tried or fought them yet? Are they as overpowered as the doomsayers predicted? I didn’t manage to get skillbooks yet. ---
**Author:** ![stefnia\_Freir](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/stefnia_freir/32/390048_2.png) [@stefnia\_Freir](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/stefnia_Freir)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2024, 1:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/no-to-breacher-pods/466034/174 "2024-11-15T13:56:25Z")
> [@Gerard\_Amatin](#): > > It’s a lot more fun that way, which is something your behaviour is lacking. Fun. Yeah, bullying people is a lot more fun than admitting your mistakes. Grow up. And I refuse your excuses for your troll. People disagreeing with you is not a valid reason to make personal attacks and defamation. Saying that the argument was wishful thinking is not “lashing at people”. Making personal attacks, defamation, however is. Be the change you wanna see : stop being a jerk when you are frustrated from being wrong. You are wrong. I also am. Accepting your imperfection, and people pointing at your mistakes is a part of the process of becoming an adult. ---
**Author:** ![Gerard\_Amatin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gerard_amatin/32/481361_2.png) [@Gerard\_Amatin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gerard_Amatin)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2024, 2:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/no-to-breacher-pods/466034/175 "2024-11-15T14:02:01Z")
So did you fight or fly any of the new ships yet? ---
**Author:** ![stefnia\_Freir](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/stefnia_freir/32/390048_2.png) [@stefnia\_Freir](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/stefnia_Freir)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2024, 2:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/no-to-breacher-pods/466034/176 "2024-11-15T14:07:56Z")
err … ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/e/a/1/ea1dac33c52de2d1af2b9630946e0b87e8df06cb.png) ---
**Author:** ![Gerard\_Amatin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gerard_amatin/32/481361_2.png) [@Gerard\_Amatin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gerard_Amatin)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2024, 2:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/no-to-breacher-pods/466034/177 "2024-11-15T14:10:45Z")
I know the feeling. I’ll be waiting a while too for the skillbook prices to come down. Not sure if I’ll get the battlecruiser or destroyer first. I do like the look of that destroyer and it’s probably going to be a third or fourth of the price of the battlecruiser. ---
**Author:** ![stefnia\_Freir](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/stefnia_freir/32/390048_2.png) [@stefnia\_Freir](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/stefnia_Freir)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2024, 2:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/no-to-breacher-pods/466034/178 "2024-11-15T14:17:12Z")
Well, I can afford to buy, inject and fit a ship (I guess pods are also affordable) but for what ? I don’t think it makes any sense to test them until the market price reaches a more decent bracket. Like, 50% spread at most. And besides the pod, the ship is only good at brawling close after a cloaky warp. Sure it will murder BC+ (by the sheer amount of spread DoT) but that will only make those fleet need more speed, and more projection, or more bubbles, and dedicated defensive scrams to avoid being caught. In PVE, it’s worse and more expensive than a T3C so … welp. ---
**Author:** ![Gerard\_Amatin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gerard_amatin/32/481361_2.png) [@Gerard\_Amatin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gerard_Amatin)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2024, 2:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/no-to-breacher-pods/466034/179 "2024-11-15T14:30:52Z")
Close range brawling is what most covops ships do though, so that’s not new. You find a target, get close enough for tackle, decloak, tackle and start fighting. Sometimes it’s fun to do so from range, I’ve done that too, but with the lack of tackle at range you’re going to rely on other tricks to engage in a cloaky ship at range, like one-shotting them or shooting enemies pinned by cynos, rats, allies or likewise. An alternative to warping in cloaked is to drop on them with a covert jump drive. Also a fun pasttime I enjoy. I can see uses for these ships for my gameplay, just not at it’s current price yet. > [@stefnia\_Freir](#): > > In PVE, it’s worse and more expensive than a T3C so … welp. I did notice the potential of passive tank on the battlecruiser is massive, haven’t looked at active tank yet, but in that role it may outperform T3Cs. I just wonder how well it’s unique SCARAB weapon will perform in PvE and if the other weapons are enough to make up for the SCARAB’s limitations compared to a T3C in PvE. ---
**Author:** ![stefnia\_Freir](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/stefnia_freir/32/390048_2.png) [@stefnia\_Freir](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/stefnia_Freir)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2024, 2:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/no-to-breacher-pods/466034/180 "2024-11-15T14:43:54Z")
> [@Gerard\_Amatin](#): > > with the lack of tackle at range ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/1/c/c/1ccb365cd14e700265d45dca4b9f0d3a3ca96430.png) Maybe there will be a usage for it. ATM I can’t see one. Granted, with the price I don’t really feel the urge to search for one ^^ [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/no-to-breacher-pods/466034.md?page=8) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/no-to-breacher-pods/466034.md?page=10)