# Noctis Still Feels Underwhelming **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [June 6, 2020, 3:48am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/noctis-still-feels-underwhelming/247021 "2020-06-06T03:48:43Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Archer\_en\_Tilavine](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/archer_en_tilavine/32/461718_2.png) [@Archer\_en\_Tilavine](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Archer_en_Tilavine)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2020, 5:42am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/noctis-still-feels-underwhelming/247021/21 "2020-06-06T05:42:27Z")
> [@Ishmael\_Ronuken](#): > > I enjoy my nomadic lifestyle and 15km3 is a lot of space. Matari, please! It’s a cruiser-and-a-half. Not that big 😂 Especially with all the 💸 it brings. Maybe not so much in ISK@Jita value, but in consumption value (stuff you use that you don’t have to buy, manufacturing inputs, etc), especially when you live far from tradehubs and things are more expensive to import (courier fee or time/risk) than they are to source locally. > [@Specia1\_K](#): > > suggest an ORE salvage destroyer 👎👎👎 ![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/e/2/e2c3f306ce2e2285d4fc85c6efc70609f4d7507d.gif) ---
**Author:** ![Specia1\_K](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/specia1_k/32/245286_2.png) [@Specia1\_K](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Specia1_K)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2020, 5:44am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/noctis-still-feels-underwhelming/247021/22 "2020-06-06T05:44:12Z")
Ok Karen. o7 ---
**Author:** ![Ishmael\_Ronuken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ishmael_ronuken/32/209150_2.png) [@Ishmael\_Ronuken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ishmael_Ronuken)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2020, 6:44am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/noctis-still-feels-underwhelming/247021/23 "2020-06-06T06:44:01Z")
A typical salvage frig I use is 2.5km3 in space. Five MTUs are .5km3 in space. Just ask your mom how much I can fit into 12km3. ---
**Author:** ![Archer\_en\_Tilavine](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/archer_en_tilavine/32/461718_2.png) [@Archer\_en\_Tilavine](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Archer_en_Tilavine)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2020, 6:47am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/noctis-still-feels-underwhelming/247021/24 "2020-06-06T06:47:10Z")
> [@Ishmael\_Ronuken](#): > > Just ask your mom how much I can fit into 12km3. You are out of line, young man! ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2020, 8:24am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/noctis-still-feels-underwhelming/247021/27 "2020-06-06T08:24:13Z")
What a pile of twaddle ---
**Author:** ![Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nicolai_serkanner/32/358049_2.png) [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nicolai_Serkanner)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2020, 9:41am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/noctis-still-feels-underwhelming/247021/28 "2020-06-06T09:41:21Z")
> [@Ishmael\_Ronuken](#): > > Just ask your mom how much I can fit into 12km3. 😂 You just made yourself a new friend! ---
**Author:** ![Brun\_Warbear](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/brun_warbear/32/380353_2.png) [@Brun\_Warbear](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Brun_Warbear)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2020, 10:04am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/noctis-still-feels-underwhelming/247021/29 "2020-06-06T10:04:18Z")
If you’re repackaging it then you’re losing half the benefit of having the Noctis in the first place: the rigs. ---
**Author:** ![Ishmael\_Ronuken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ishmael_ronuken/32/209150_2.png) [@Ishmael\_Ronuken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ishmael_Ronuken)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2020, 10:42am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/noctis-still-feels-underwhelming/247021/30 "2020-06-06T10:42:51Z")
I did mention that my main gripe with this was the fact that I enjoy a mobile lifestyle in this game. 270,000 is a lot of space, so is 15,000. When I go out on my ventures, I basically take whatever will fit. It just seems silly to me that a mining barge with 100k, 150k, and 200k can be folded down into 3750 each but not this one? ---
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2020, 11:05am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/noctis-still-feels-underwhelming/247021/31 "2020-06-06T11:05:14Z")
well maybe the noctis is not designed for nomadic lifestyle ? Not that nomadic is bad, but it’s a choice that comes with its own limitations. ---
**Author:** ![Brun\_Warbear](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/brun_warbear/32/380353_2.png) [@Brun\_Warbear](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Brun_Warbear)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2020, 11:10am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/noctis-still-feels-underwhelming/247021/32 "2020-06-06T11:10:05Z")
My point is that if you’re repackaging it you might as well use any of the salvage bonused frigates or a destroyer instead. ---
**Author:** ![Kestrix](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kestrix/32/420684_2.png) [@Kestrix](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kestrix)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2020, 11:19am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/noctis-still-feels-underwhelming/247021/33 "2020-06-06T11:19:58Z")
Nothing wrong with the Noctis. I salvage missions very quickly. Four tractor beams and four salvagers makes quick work of the mess I leave in the wake of my mission battle ship. Granted I’m sure their are other ships out their that can do the job in much the same way as you can fit a battle ship to mine roids but why would you when you can use a Hulk? Use the right tool for the job and for salvaging the Noctis is definitely that. ---
**Author:** ![darkestkhan\_Eriker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/darkestkhan_eriker/32/390091_2.png) [@darkestkhan\_Eriker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/darkestkhan_Eriker)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2020, 3:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/noctis-still-feels-underwhelming/247021/34 "2020-06-06T15:11:13Z")
> [@Runa\_Yamaguchi](#): > > So you want something that can do everything well…ok then… Not everythign but noctis is pretty bad - if it at least had 3K m3 of cargo space… other than the bonus to tarctor beam it is quite crap. Especially once price that is taken into account. ---
**Author:** ![darkestkhan\_Eriker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/darkestkhan_eriker/32/390091_2.png) [@darkestkhan\_Eriker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/darkestkhan_Eriker)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2020, 3:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/noctis-still-feels-underwhelming/247021/35 "2020-06-06T15:13:48Z")
> [@Specia1\_K](#): > > Salvage rigs only come in medium size, btw. No. There are small salvage rigs - I know, I use them on my salvage dessies. ---
**Author:** ![Zoiie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zoiie/32/292363_2.png) [@Zoiie](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zoiie)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2020, 4:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/noctis-still-feels-underwhelming/247021/36 "2020-06-06T16:30:39Z")
Noctis be like an octa-ninja-theif ---
**Author:** ![Salt\_Foambreaker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salt_foambreaker/32/280119_2.png) [@Salt\_Foambreaker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salt_Foambreaker)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2020, 5:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/noctis-still-feels-underwhelming/247021/37 "2020-06-06T17:22:50Z")
> [@Ishmael\_Ronuken](#): > > Every other ORE ship is specialized well and fits into their niche. What I’m trying to say is I shouldn’t want to use a non-ORE ship for salvaging. It’s hard to agree on its stats, volume, and price tag just for a larger tractor beam length when MTUs exist. MTU was a design mistake, no ship can compete with it. Everything was **fine** until MTU was added. ---
**Author:** ![Zoiie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zoiie/32/292363_2.png) [@Zoiie](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zoiie)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2020, 5:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/noctis-still-feels-underwhelming/247021/38 "2020-06-06T17:25:47Z")
In case you haven’t noticed, there exists MTU hunters that love nothing more than to crack open those peanuts. ---
**Author:** ![Salt\_Foambreaker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salt_foambreaker/32/280119_2.png) [@Salt\_Foambreaker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salt_Foambreaker)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2020, 5:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/noctis-still-feels-underwhelming/247021/39 "2020-06-06T17:25:57Z")
> [@Ishmael\_Ronuken](#): > > porpoise which is just a small, non-carrier orca No it is a **command ship** , which is what ORCA was until the devs screwed up and made it an AFK mining vessel. ---
**Author:** ![Zoiie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zoiie/32/292363_2.png) [@Zoiie](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zoiie)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2020, 5:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/noctis-still-feels-underwhelming/247021/40 "2020-06-06T17:26:20Z")
AFK you say, so what’s stopping you ganking them? ---
**Author:** ![Salt\_Foambreaker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salt_foambreaker/32/280119_2.png) [@Salt\_Foambreaker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salt_Foambreaker)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2020, 5:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/noctis-still-feels-underwhelming/247021/41 "2020-06-06T17:27:04Z")
> [@Zoiie](#): > > In case you haven’t noticed, there exists MTU hunters that love nothing more than to crack open those peanuts. And that makes it ok to have eliminated a player profession? No, it was and still is a major screwup. ---
**Author:** ![Zoiie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zoiie/32/292363_2.png) [@Zoiie](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zoiie)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2020, 5:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/noctis-still-feels-underwhelming/247021/42 "2020-06-06T17:27:19Z")
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