# Noob faction warfare **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [July 2, 2019, 2:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/noob-faction-warfare/171188 "2019-07-02T14:41:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2019, 3:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/noob-faction-warfare/171188/21 "2019-07-02T15:08:39Z")
Would you use a T1 cruiser to destroy a T1 frigate? ---
**Author:** ![Kobran\_Ruthless\_Vaidrich](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kobran_ruthless_vaidrich/32/466355_2.png) [@Kobran\_Ruthless\_Vaidrich](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kobran_Ruthless_Vaidrich)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2019, 3:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/noob-faction-warfare/171188/22 "2019-07-02T15:08:44Z")
> [@Ms\_Steak](#): > > There is a satisfaction for the other party. This very thread is a pure win for them. It wouldn’t satisfy me to kill a ship that can’t win the fight. ---
**Author:** ![Kobran\_Ruthless\_Vaidrich](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kobran_ruthless_vaidrich/32/466355_2.png) [@Kobran\_Ruthless\_Vaidrich](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kobran_Ruthless_Vaidrich)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2019, 3:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/noob-faction-warfare/171188/23 "2019-07-02T15:09:14Z")
> [@Ramona\_McCandless](#): > > Would you use a T1 cruiser to destroy a T1 frigate? For fun? No. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2019, 3:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/noob-faction-warfare/171188/24 "2019-07-02T15:09:37Z")
For an objective of some kind, fun or not. Heres a secret: bigger ships are often designed to kill smaller ones. ---
**Author:** ![Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/runa_yamaguchi/32/197532_2.png) [@Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Runa_Yamaguchi)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2019, 3:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/noob-faction-warfare/171188/25 "2019-07-02T15:09:43Z")
> [@Kobran\_Ruthless\_Vaidrich](#): > > Because I want to learn how to kill stuff. If you want to kill very good ships then you either need to be incredibly good or well fitted…preferably both…and also know beforehand if you even have a chance in the first place… ---
**Author:** ![Kobran\_Ruthless\_Vaidrich](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kobran_ruthless_vaidrich/32/466355_2.png) [@Kobran\_Ruthless\_Vaidrich](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kobran_Ruthless_Vaidrich)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2019, 3:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/noob-faction-warfare/171188/26 "2019-07-02T15:10:41Z")
> [@Ramona\_McCandless](#): > > For an objective of some kind, fun or not. It’s different if it’s an objective, but I don’t think these guys are doing objectives. I think they jsut fly around looking to pad their killboard and never engaging anyone that could actually kill them. ---
**Author:** ![Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/runa_yamaguchi/32/197532_2.png) [@Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Runa_Yamaguchi)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2019, 3:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/noob-faction-warfare/171188/27 "2019-07-02T15:11:03Z")
I suggest reading this to get a better idea of the frigate flavors… > **[Novice frigates yearbook 2019 (updated).pdf](https://drive.google.com/file/d/1z7dkJrFiKZo4w_xVgJSmWCUyvKQ8Ha8Q/view)** > > Google Drive file. ---
**Author:** ![Kobran\_Ruthless\_Vaidrich](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kobran_ruthless_vaidrich/32/466355_2.png) [@Kobran\_Ruthless\_Vaidrich](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kobran_Ruthless_Vaidrich)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2019, 3:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/noob-faction-warfare/171188/28 "2019-07-02T15:11:50Z")
> [@Runa\_Yamaguchi](#): > > I suggest reading this to get a better idea of the frigate flavors… I will have a read, thanks. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2019, 3:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/noob-faction-warfare/171188/29 "2019-07-02T15:12:32Z")
If you are just going to be defeatist then no one here can help. You either stamp on a potential threat or run away from it. There is no other way. ---
**Author:** ![Kobran\_Ruthless\_Vaidrich](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kobran_ruthless_vaidrich/32/466355_2.png) [@Kobran\_Ruthless\_Vaidrich](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kobran_Ruthless_Vaidrich)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2019, 3:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/noob-faction-warfare/171188/30 "2019-07-02T15:13:50Z")
It’s just annoying because the only people I ever find are people flying faction frigates. ---
**Author:** ![Solonius\_Rex](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solonius_rex/32/388172_2.png) [@Solonius\_Rex](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solonius_Rex)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2019, 3:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/noob-faction-warfare/171188/31 "2019-07-02T15:14:38Z")
> [@Kobran\_Ruthless\_Vaidrich](#): > > Faction warfare is a good place to learn PVP? > [@Kobran\_Ruthless\_Vaidrich](#): > > All I have learned today is that it’s pretty pointless looking for a fight You’ve learned all you needed to learn. Now go, and become one with the blob of pilots in 1000vs1000 pilot fight. ---
**Author:** ![Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/runa_yamaguchi/32/197532_2.png) [@Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Runa_Yamaguchi)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2019, 3:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/noob-faction-warfare/171188/32 "2019-07-02T15:14:44Z")
> [@Kobran\_Ruthless\_Vaidrich](#): > > I ever find are people flying faction frigates. They are great ships for a good price…learn their weaknesses and attack smartly…that link will help you do that… ---
**Author:** ![Kobran\_Ruthless\_Vaidrich](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kobran_ruthless_vaidrich/32/466355_2.png) [@Kobran\_Ruthless\_Vaidrich](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kobran_Ruthless_Vaidrich)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2019, 3:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/noob-faction-warfare/171188/33 "2019-07-02T15:15:21Z")
> [@Runa\_Yamaguchi](#): > > They are great ships for a good price…learn their weaknesses and attack smartly…that link will help you do that… I will give it a try. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2019, 3:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/noob-faction-warfare/171188/34 "2019-07-02T15:16:44Z")
Well while theres nothing stoping you from getting one, and tbh why wouldnt you choose the best tool for a job, fitting out 20 Punishers/Incursuseses whatever is much much cheaper. I know a seller who’ll supply you very very cheaply. The more you practise the better youll get. No one is perfect first time. Not even Jesus. ---
**Author:** ![Kobran\_Ruthless\_Vaidrich](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kobran_ruthless_vaidrich/32/466355_2.png) [@Kobran\_Ruthless\_Vaidrich](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kobran_Ruthless_Vaidrich)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2019, 3:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/noob-faction-warfare/171188/35 "2019-07-02T15:19:40Z")
True, I guess I just have to be more patient or something. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2019, 3:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/noob-faction-warfare/171188/36 "2019-07-02T15:22:47Z")
Its cool, we all get a bit grr at times. Mail me ingame and Ill sort you out with a pile of disposable frigates. ---
**Author:** ![Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/runa_yamaguchi/32/197532_2.png) [@Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Runa_Yamaguchi)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2019, 3:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/noob-faction-warfare/171188/37 "2019-07-02T15:23:17Z")
My 2-bit suggestion is this: - know how YOU want to fight (kite, brawl, Ewar, bla bla bla) - find the best T1 ship that matches that roll from above - look for fits that matches your budget - learn what skills you need and train for that specific build - learn which fights to take and when you run - when you undock, resign to yourself that the ship is already lost - have fun exploding others and being exploded…aim for a 50/50 split by the end of July ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2019, 3:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/noob-faction-warfare/171188/38 "2019-07-02T15:25:23Z")
Highly recommended ^ ---
**Author:** ![Kobran\_Ruthless\_Vaidrich](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kobran_ruthless_vaidrich/32/466355_2.png) [@Kobran\_Ruthless\_Vaidrich](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kobran_Ruthless_Vaidrich)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2019, 3:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/noob-faction-warfare/171188/39 "2019-07-02T15:27:41Z")
I’ll try to learn the tristan. That looks the best since I already have maxed drone skills and prefer kiting. ---
**Author:** ![Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/runa_yamaguchi/32/197532_2.png) [@Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Runa_Yamaguchi)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2019, 3:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/noob-faction-warfare/171188/40 "2019-07-02T15:35:11Z")
Great ship…use that link and have it open to know who to engage and who to run from… GL, HF and report back night [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/noob-faction-warfare/171188.md?page=1) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/noob-faction-warfare/171188.md?page=3)