# Noob Retention : Better Insurance

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/noob-retention-better-insurance/381728>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [October 24, 2022, 2:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/noob-retention-better-insurance/381728 "2022-10-24T14:18:53Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Lana\_Thomas](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lana_thomas/32/295368_2.png) [@Lana\_Thomas](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lana_Thomas)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2022, 4:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/noob-retention-better-insurance/381728/82 "2022-10-24T16:32:46Z")

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> [@Ramona\_McCandless](#):
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> you havent proved.

\*proven

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**Author:** ![Imperial\_Doctor\_Yoshun](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/imperial_doctor_yoshun/32/291938_2.png) [@Imperial\_Doctor\_Yoshun](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Imperial_Doctor_Yoshun)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2022, 4:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/noob-retention-better-insurance/381728/83 "2022-10-24T16:33:38Z")

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The entitled whining grindbear surfaces again!

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**Author:** ![Nova\_Wayout](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nova_wayout/32/339466_2.png) [@Nova\_Wayout](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nova_Wayout)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2022, 4:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/noob-retention-better-insurance/381728/84 "2022-10-24T16:35:23Z")

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> [@Lana\_Thomas](#):
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> \*proven

She’s like a forum bot… derailing threads…  
She posts nothing related to the subject other than to shoot at it…

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**Author:** ![Lana\_Thomas](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lana_thomas/32/295368_2.png) [@Lana\_Thomas](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lana_Thomas)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2022, 4:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/noob-retention-better-insurance/381728/85 "2022-10-24T16:38:51Z")

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> [@Nova\_Wayout](#):
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> She’s like a forum bot… derailing threads…

Yes, that is what @Ramona_McCandless likes to do.

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**Author:** ![Arya\_Yeshe](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arya_yeshe/32/397211_2.png) [@Arya\_Yeshe](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arya_Yeshe)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2022, 4:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/noob-retention-better-insurance/381728/86 "2022-10-24T16:40:30Z")

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> [@Nova\_Wayout](#):
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> Look… I don’t work for CCP…  
> Even if I had a stack of direct evidence… .  
> The response here in the forum would still be the same…

Only CCP knows who is a noob or not.

Since CCP will never disclose such things then we can’t evaluate any data that a **player** brings to us, in this discussion is pointless bringing zkillboard and it is pointless creating assumptions and assertions (which in today’s thread are all assumptions).

CCP knows what is real or not, if they aren’t doing anything it is because it’s fine.

Also, why should I try helping people I have no idea about?  
If i randomly help people the chance of helping an alt of people who only brings me problems is really high, by mistake I will be helping trilionaire null sec miners… why should I do that?

So nowadays I just want that everybody else burn.

Even if they are newbros, what can CCP do? Prevent them from doing insane and stupid things?  
If CCP fills EVE with rubber bumpers everywhere then this is game won’t be a pvp sandbox anymore.

 ![ss_b5653530b1526f8d5feb96d505c49ab5e1fae46e.1920x1080](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/a/4/8/a48c64c2b32178111f8a8af2bdff7db9a2739251.jpeg)

> [@Ramona\_McCandless](#):
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> Your tautology is based on a theory you havent proved.

Oh, someone else knows what a tautology is! 🍸 🍸  
This remembers me my first month in college when I told the teacher I didn’t want to stay in class for revising for the exam because I knew everything!

Immediately he told me go to the blackboard and solve all assertions but I simply stood up and off the bat said all answers from all exercises that were on the board without needing to write anything! 👨‍🎓

So he brandished:  
-GET OUT OF MY CLASS!

We both laughed and the whole class who was giggling went completely mute and I left that class for the day.

> [@Aisha\_Katalen](#):
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> The _problem_ is negative nihilist (ex) players shouting how ■■■■ everything is, newbies being pushed into boring playstyles that’s really just for alts doesn’t help either. CCP not advertising as a competitive sandbox is also a fail.

Yes, recently I have been visiting the Rookie Channel and a lot of the veties there tell new players to go mine, then there are the Agondray people telling newbros to be careful with the griefers who only gank new players mining in ventures.

Rookie Channel is great, but the toxicity only comes from the “gwurk gwanker bad” and the boredom comes from the people who advertise mining too frequently. Such attitudes create wrong views about EVE and wrong expectations about the EVE experience, that only creates false dreams to be shattered.

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**Author:** ![Lana\_Thomas](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lana_thomas/32/295368_2.png) [@Lana\_Thomas](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lana_Thomas)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2022, 4:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/noob-retention-better-insurance/381728/87 "2022-10-24T16:52:08Z")

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> [@Arya\_Yeshe](#):
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> This remembers me my first month in college when I told the teacher I didn’t want to stay in class for revising for the exam because I knew everything!
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> Immediately he told me go to the blackboard and solve all assertions but I simply stood up and off the bat said all answers from all exercises that were on the board without needing to write anything! 👨‍🎓
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> So he brandished:  
> -GET OUT OF MY CLASS!

And then you woke up and realized you wet the bed.

Also:

> [@Arya\_Yeshe](#):
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> This remembers me my first month in college

\*this reminds me of…

Too bad all that useless brain of yours couldn’t learn proper vocabulary.

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**Author:** ![Nova\_Wayout](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nova_wayout/32/339466_2.png) [@Nova\_Wayout](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nova_Wayout)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2022, 4:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/noob-retention-better-insurance/381728/88 "2022-10-24T16:55:45Z")

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> [@Lana\_Thomas](#):
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> Too bad all that useless brain of yours couldn’t learn proper vocabulary.

That is a common cross language translation… Chances are he speaks 2 languages… can you say as much…?

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**Author:** ![Lana\_Thomas](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lana_thomas/32/295368_2.png) [@Lana\_Thomas](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lana_Thomas)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2022, 4:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/noob-retention-better-insurance/381728/89 "2022-10-24T16:56:19Z")

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Yes, yes I can.

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**Author:** ![Nova\_Wayout](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nova_wayout/32/339466_2.png) [@Nova\_Wayout](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nova_Wayout)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2022, 4:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/noob-retention-better-insurance/381728/90 "2022-10-24T16:57:02Z")

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Prove It…

Apa Deus?

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**Author:** ![Lana\_Thomas](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lana_thomas/32/295368_2.png) [@Lana\_Thomas](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lana_Thomas)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2022, 4:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/noob-retention-better-insurance/381728/91 "2022-10-24T16:58:59Z")

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I have nothing to prove to you!

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**Author:** ![Nova\_Wayout](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nova_wayout/32/339466_2.png) [@Nova\_Wayout](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nova_Wayout)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2022, 4:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/noob-retention-better-insurance/381728/92 "2022-10-24T16:59:26Z")

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Then Shut Up…

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**Author:** ![Lana\_Thomas](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lana_thomas/32/295368_2.png) [@Lana\_Thomas](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lana_Thomas)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2022, 4:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/noob-retention-better-insurance/381728/93 "2022-10-24T16:59:40Z")

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Make me!

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**Author:** ![Nova\_Wayout](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nova_wayout/32/339466_2.png) [@Nova\_Wayout](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nova_Wayout)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2022, 5:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/noob-retention-better-insurance/381728/94 "2022-10-24T17:00:53Z")

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Won’t have to… Soon Aiko will login with her ISD account and lock the thread with a reason from the roulette wheel…

And attacking people on grammar and spelling is grade school BS… Common in today’s Eve community…

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**Author:** ![Lana\_Thomas](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lana_thomas/32/295368_2.png) [@Lana\_Thomas](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lana_Thomas)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2022, 5:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/noob-retention-better-insurance/381728/95 "2022-10-24T17:02:41Z")

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So you resort to censorship when you have no argument? Thanks for proving my point!

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**Author:** ![Arya\_Yeshe](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arya_yeshe/32/397211_2.png) [@Arya\_Yeshe](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arya_Yeshe)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2022, 5:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/noob-retention-better-insurance/381728/96 "2022-10-24T17:04:36Z")

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![2022-10-24 14_03_05-Noob Retention _ Better Insurance - Communications Center _ General Discussion -](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/a/d/7/ad7f676fcc2c6d67880c2361c7e7fdafc576455b.png)

What?  
What’s going on?

Oh, I see it now!

Yes, I do use “remembers me of” since the 90’s, I don’t know why I missed the “of” there, maybe I was interrupted irl.

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**Author:** ![QuakeGod](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/quakegod/32/480339_2.png) [@QuakeGod](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/QuakeGod)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2022, 5:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/noob-retention-better-insurance/381728/97 "2022-10-24T17:07:59Z")

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![churlish](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/6/b/c/6bc650644b4b52457bb87f85ad87b6401987dee5.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![Lana\_Thomas](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lana_thomas/32/295368_2.png) [@Lana\_Thomas](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lana_Thomas)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2022, 5:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/noob-retention-better-insurance/381728/98 "2022-10-24T17:09:07Z")

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Lol. Nice try in alluding you have someone to distract you irl…

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**Author:** ![Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/geo_eclipse_oksaras/32/500781_2.png) [@Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Geo_Eclipse_Oksaras)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2022, 5:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/noob-retention-better-insurance/381728/99 "2022-10-24T17:09:19Z")

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Insurance is fine and working as intended.

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**Author:** ![QuakeGod](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/quakegod/32/480339_2.png) [@QuakeGod](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/QuakeGod)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2022, 5:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/noob-retention-better-insurance/381728/100 "2022-10-24T17:11:35Z")

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This would instantly be exploited by vets using brand new alts in order to avoid incurring massive losses during cargo runs or moving ships from one station to another…

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**Author:** ![Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/geo_eclipse_oksaras/32/500781_2.png) [@Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Geo_Eclipse_Oksaras)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2022, 5:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/noob-retention-better-insurance/381728/101 "2022-10-24T17:15:32Z")

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Had to dig to find this

> [@Insurance](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/insurance/375097/6):
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> Last time I checked, the ecosystem team were happy with how the insurance calculations were working (and they were taking into account the proper values)

So ccp is fine with insurance. Its meant to only cover ship hull only. Contents can be retrieved if you are lucky

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