# NPC corporation tax should be removed **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [January 14, 2021, 10:36am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/npc-corporation-tax-should-be-removed/290027 "2021-01-14T10:36:54Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 23
**Author:** ![Gerard\_Amatin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gerard_amatin/32/481361_2.png) [@Gerard\_Amatin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gerard_Amatin)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2021, 11:26am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/npc-corporation-tax-should-be-removed/290027/445 "2021-01-29T11:26:30Z")
Well they can choose: be prepared for PvP and get extra payout, or do the easy way and get a little less. Risk and reward. They could opt to get cheaper fits and be slightly less optimised for PvE while still making more ISK because they have lower taxes. I think that’s a fair tradeoff. ---
**Author:** ![Hlamon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/hlamon/32/241936_2.png) [@Hlamon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Hlamon)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2021, 11:27am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/npc-corporation-tax-should-be-removed/290027/446 "2021-01-29T11:27:57Z")
This again. CCP already collected and presented data, players chose to not play game and leave. This is why wars was changed. Waiting for mandatory “This players not needed anyway” comment. ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2021, 11:28am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/npc-corporation-tax-should-be-removed/290027/447 "2021-01-29T11:28:51Z")
Those players aren’t needed anyway. ---
**Author:** ![Gerard\_Amatin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gerard_amatin/32/481361_2.png) [@Gerard\_Amatin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gerard_Amatin)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2021, 11:29am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/npc-corporation-tax-should-be-removed/290027/448 "2021-01-29T11:29:39Z")
I’m not saying that people who don’t want to get in a war at all should get into war-eligible corporations. I’m saying that they should pay more tax. ---
**Author:** ![Hlamon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/hlamon/32/241936_2.png) [@Hlamon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Hlamon)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2021, 11:29am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/npc-corporation-tax-should-be-removed/290027/449 "2021-01-29T11:29:44Z")
Except CCP thinks otherwise and thus made changes to wars. ---
**Author:** ![Gerard\_Amatin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gerard_amatin/32/481361_2.png) [@Gerard\_Amatin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gerard_Amatin)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2021, 11:30am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/npc-corporation-tax-should-be-removed/290027/450 "2021-01-29T11:30:27Z")
We’re not suggesting changes to wars here. We’re suggesting extra taxes for people who avoid wars. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2021, 11:32am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/npc-corporation-tax-should-be-removed/290027/451 "2021-01-29T11:32:21Z")
So war deccers leaving is good, and people ignorant of basic survival leaving is bad. Interesting point of view. ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2021, 11:32am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/npc-corporation-tax-should-be-removed/290027/452 "2021-01-29T11:32:27Z")
Cool. And now maybe they’ll revert them. ---
**Author:** ![Hlamon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/hlamon/32/241936_2.png) [@Hlamon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Hlamon)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2021, 11:34am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/npc-corporation-tax-should-be-removed/290027/453 "2021-01-29T11:34:32Z")
Why? Because 3 or 4 “Those players noot needed anyway” and “Give me some easy targets in high-sec” forum dwellers? I highly doubt it. ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2021, 11:35am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/npc-corporation-tax-should-be-removed/290027/454 "2021-01-29T11:35:15Z")
That’s fine, we can let them decide. All I’m doing is presenting a case for why they should. ---
**Author:** ![Hlamon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/hlamon/32/241936_2.png) [@Hlamon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Hlamon)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2021, 11:35am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/npc-corporation-tax-should-be-removed/290027/455 "2021-01-29T11:35:15Z")
Why are they leaving? There is plenty of targets to shoot in EVE. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2021, 11:37am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/npc-corporation-tax-should-be-removed/290027/456 "2021-01-29T11:37:45Z")
> [@Hlamon](#): > > Why are they leaving? They already left when CCP nerfed wars so much as they are almost completely threatless and easy to dodge. ---
**Author:** ![Hlamon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/hlamon/32/241936_2.png) [@Hlamon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Hlamon)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2021, 11:52am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/npc-corporation-tax-should-be-removed/290027/457 "2021-01-29T11:52:23Z")
Sorry, I don’t have sympathy for players who can’t play without shooting clueless carebears in highsec. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2021, 11:55am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/npc-corporation-tax-should-be-removed/290027/458 "2021-01-29T11:55:18Z")
Im not asking you too. But you are measuring people who cant play with other people around in highsec by a different stick and you cannot answer why. ---
**Author:** ![Hlamon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/hlamon/32/241936_2.png) [@Hlamon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Hlamon)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2021, 12:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/npc-corporation-tax-should-be-removed/290027/459 "2021-01-29T12:07:29Z")
Maybe bacause careberas at least don’t claim to be PVP players? ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2021, 12:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/npc-corporation-tax-should-be-removed/290027/460 "2021-01-29T12:26:07Z")
Eh? I dont get what that has to do with it. So basically, if a player likes PvP, you think that CCP should value their sub less than someone who dislikes it? I doubt youll find someone from CCP who would agree with that. And if you feel this is a strawman, please feel free to correct whatever misapprehension Im under. ---
**Author:** ![Hlamon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/hlamon/32/241936_2.png) [@Hlamon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Hlamon)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2021, 12:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/npc-corporation-tax-should-be-removed/290027/461 "2021-01-29T12:45:10Z")
None of this. All players subs a equal of value for me. I don’t like when any players leave this game except cheaters/botters. But I believe, what players who leave this game only because they can’t shoot clueless carebears anymore, is actually very small group. Like players who leave because they was ganked or scammed, I take it as unavoidable losses. ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2021, 12:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/npc-corporation-tax-should-be-removed/290027/462 "2021-01-29T12:59:39Z")
More players are going to leave the game when it becomes utter rubbish because the core formula is broken, and people get bored of grinding the same rat over and over again to make a perpetually-diminishing amount of wealth that they never even spend on anything fun. Which is, ironically, what has _already happened_, as the game was both growing faster _and_ had a higher population when it wasn’t bogged down with swampy, developer-enabled carebearism like it is today. So good luck with your naive view that giving people _exactly_ what they want is a good motivating factor. It doesn’t work in romance, it doesn’t work in the workplace, and it doesn’t work in entertainment. It seems like you’re simply unaware what makes people engage and develop attachments. That, or you would prefer an EVE with a revolving door community of a million players who each stay for a month or two, instead of a smaller one, but one with plenty of long-term commitment and dedication. Sounds like you’re a perfect fit for casual mobile gaming, to be honest. ---
**Author:** ![Hlamon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/hlamon/32/241936_2.png) [@Hlamon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Hlamon)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2021, 1:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/npc-corporation-tax-should-be-removed/290027/463 "2021-01-29T13:03:27Z")
Well, there is a lot of players who enjoy more risky gameplay in more dangerous places than high-sec. Most of them started from safety of highsec and moved to greener pastures. Why it is so important for you to hurt carebears as much as possible, up to pushing them out of the game? ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2021, 4:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/npc-corporation-tax-should-be-removed/290027/464 "2021-01-29T16:30:13Z")
So yes you are saying > [@Hlamon](#): > > This players not needed anyway about a group. Again I say, I doubt CCP agrees. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/npc-corporation-tax-should-be-removed/290027.md?page=22) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/npc-corporation-tax-should-be-removed/290027.md?page=24)