# Null is too easy **URL:** \ **Category:** Warfare & Tactics\ **Created:** [December 6, 2025, 2:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/null-is-too-easy/502486 "2025-12-06T14:27:19Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Lugburz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lugburz/32/486230_2.png) [@Lugburz](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lugburz)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2025, 3:18am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/null-is-too-easy/502486/21 "2025-12-12T03:18:48Z")
Id have said good bloody riddance. ---
**Author:** ![Lugburz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lugburz/32/486230_2.png) [@Lugburz](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lugburz)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2025, 3:19am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/null-is-too-easy/502486/22 "2025-12-12T03:19:57Z")
Sounds like a threat. ---
**Author:** ![Lugburz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lugburz/32/486230_2.png) [@Lugburz](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lugburz)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2025, 3:28am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/null-is-too-easy/502486/23 "2025-12-12T03:28:12Z")
Not the brightest spark in the bunch are you… conquerable outposts did not work to securely store your assets, it was merely a biproduct; and most people stored and manufactured out of pos’s which had no asset safety; so you are in fact, wrong. There are no medclones in WH space and getting rid of jumpclones in wh citadels would mean the same for everyone, everywhere, in all citadels. your comment makes no sense except to point out you dont like wormholers. > [@Dyver\_Phycad](#): > > Funny story here I doubt very much you are an amusing person or know what an actual funny story is.. and that wasnt. It feels more like a nullsec player that uses bots attempting to convey some half a\*\*\*\*d bs story - and i garantee pvpers were not whining. PvPrs are constantly in your nullsec; have you tried actually playing the game? ---
**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2025, 12:32am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/null-is-too-easy/502486/24 "2025-12-15T00:32:40Z")
What makes me laugh is that the f1 monkeys are under the illusion that hitting the F1 key makes them a leet pvp’ers When they come to high sec though, they learn the hard way, that nullbear f1 monkey are is lowest from of evolution, even lower than the rock munching miner. ---
**Author:** ![Kana\_Kito](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kana_kito/32/481067_2.png) [@Kana\_Kito](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kana_Kito)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2025, 5:57am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/null-is-too-easy/502486/25 "2025-12-16T05:57:19Z")
I genuinely fear/respect lowsec pvpers, especially the solo hunters. Cruising through NS exploring relic sites have been a breeze. ---
**Author:** ![Kaivarian\_Coste](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kaivarian_coste/32/413759_2.png) [@Kaivarian\_Coste](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kaivarian_Coste)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2025, 3:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/null-is-too-easy/502486/26 "2025-12-17T15:04:07Z")
CCP tried removing local in null. While I think it was great, alot of null bears QQ’d and stopped playing. But I had the most memorable fight during this period. PVPers were randomly bumping into each other and dueling. I remember one time I was in a cloaked Proteus and watched a Heron hack a relic site. Just as I was about to pounce, a Saber decloaked and attacked. As the Saber blew the Heron up, a Legion decloaked and killed the Saber. I followed up by decloaking, and killed the Legion, lol. > **[Heron | Out5aid3R | Killmail](https://zkillboard.com/kill/78282154/)** > > Out5aid3R (The Scope) lost their Heron in F67E-Q (Syndicate). Final Blow by Lenai Chelien (WiNGSPAN Delivery Services) flying solo in a Sabre. Total Value: 4,641,732.37 ISK > **[Sabre | Lenai Chelien | Killmail](https://zkillboard.com/kill/78282218/)** > > Lenai Chelien (WiNGSPAN Delivery Services) lost their Sabre in F67E-Q (Syndicate). Final Blow by art amarr (Viziam) flying solo in a Legion. Total Value: 98,131,201.09 ISK > **[Legion | art amarr | Killmail](https://zkillboard.com/kill/78282267/)** > > art amarr (Viziam) lost their Legion in F67E-Q (Syndicate). Final Blow by Kaivarian Coste (Garoun Investment Bank) flying solo in a Proteus. Total Value: 527,847,089.32 ISK ---
**Author:** ![Dark\_Lord\_Trump](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dark_lord_trump/32/411482_2.png) [@Dark\_Lord\_Trump](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dark_Lord_Trump)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2025, 3:06am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/null-is-too-easy/502486/27 "2025-12-18T03:06:27Z")
> [@Lana\_Lollipop](#): > > Remove asset safety - it never used to exist Wrong. It existed in the form of outposts being indestructible. Your assets weren’t at risk, just your access to them. ---
**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2025, 8:48am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/null-is-too-easy/502486/28 "2025-12-18T08:48:37Z")
Meanwhile stop ganking fishing boats - thanks ---
**Author:** ![MB\_ThePhotographer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mb_thephotographer/32/373722_2.png) [@MB\_ThePhotographer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MB_ThePhotographer)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2025, 1:12am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/null-is-too-easy/502486/29 "2025-12-24T01:12:36Z")
> [@Cassius\_Valour](#): > > They can’t outright remove it though they’ve tried and the player base literally halved. They lost half their growing player base in 14, Didn’t seem to bother them then. 🤔 Maybe its time to go back to that playstyle. Oh, wait, losing the microtransactions would cost them more? ---
**Author:** ![Chad\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/chad_frostpacker/32/504356_2.png) [@Chad\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Chad_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2025, 1:55am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/null-is-too-easy/502486/30 "2025-12-24T01:55:31Z")
Nulsec is very scary and almost as scary as WHS ---
**Author:** ![MB\_ThePhotographer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mb_thephotographer/32/373722_2.png) [@MB\_ThePhotographer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MB_ThePhotographer)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2025, 1:58am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/null-is-too-easy/502486/31 "2025-12-24T01:58:32Z")
You have to get out more! I find no part of eve scary. Even if I can do nothing more than annoy them. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![MB\_ThePhotographer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mb_thephotographer/32/373722_2.png) [@MB\_ThePhotographer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MB_ThePhotographer)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2025, 2:06am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/null-is-too-easy/502486/32 "2025-12-24T02:06:17Z")
@Chad_Frostpacker You should really turn to the Dark Side. With the new players we have today, its not much different than mining and doesn’t take much more effort for much greater reward. Fly safe! But flying dangerously these days is not so dangerous as it used to be… ---
**Author:** ![Chad\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/chad_frostpacker/32/504356_2.png) [@Chad\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Chad_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2025, 3:02am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/null-is-too-easy/502486/33 "2025-12-24T03:02:01Z")
I’m just going to mention that I left the ore hold empty then went to the shops, returned to find a full ore hold. ![IMG_0508](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/b/9/9/b99442f241166213dae4e1bfc35916897b2cab46.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![MB\_ThePhotographer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mb_thephotographer/32/373722_2.png) [@MB\_ThePhotographer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MB_ThePhotographer)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2025, 3:09am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/null-is-too-easy/502486/34 "2025-12-24T03:09:35Z")
The Dark Side awaits you. Vengeance and untold glory await you! You must not resist. [![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/7/d/c/7dc75a85e46debfa01ff15079aba87f7c8f6ba68.jpeg ""I’ll Never Turn to the Dark Side. You Failed, Your Highness. I Am a Jedi like My Father Before Me.”") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1JuHWuq0_e8) ---
**Author:** ![Cassius\_Valour](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cassius_valour/32/479950_2.png) [@Cassius\_Valour](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cassius_Valour)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2025, 9:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/null-is-too-easy/502486/35 "2025-12-24T21:43:20Z")
You are either daft or being intentionally ignorant. ---
**Author:** ![Andlaust](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/andlaust/32/422007_2.png) [@Andlaust](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Andlaust)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2025, 1:56am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/null-is-too-easy/502486/36 "2025-12-25T01:56:41Z")
No, he’s right. Eve lost about 40% of it’s player base in 2014, and everything they did to cause that drop is still here today. There were a lot of major changes, like PLEX, citadels and Sov mechanics, that are still part of the game today. ---
**Author:** ![MB\_ThePhotographer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mb_thephotographer/32/373722_2.png) [@MB\_ThePhotographer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MB_ThePhotographer)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2025, 3:09am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/null-is-too-easy/502486/37 "2025-12-25T03:09:01Z")
Finally, we agree on something. Merry Christmas! ---
**Author:** ![Cassius\_Valour](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cassius_valour/32/479950_2.png) [@Cassius\_Valour](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cassius_Valour)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2025, 6:02am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/null-is-too-easy/502486/38 "2025-12-25T06:02:21Z")
He does have a point but I don’t think he’s right. It is much more complicated than that. Sure the changes back then with jump fatigue and plex and all that had an effect but you could equally point to the lack of meaningful content that caused the drop. I don’t think anyone would want to go back to the days of snuff or goons being able to project everywhere at any in a matter of minutes with a super fleet. If memory serves too there was some really big controversial fight that involved server issues that had folks angry as well. It was a massive storm of issues. What it boils down to is this. A game going from 60-70k concurrent to 30-40k sucks for sure but the game already being struggling to hold 25k and dropping to lower than 10k is death and the only change during that period was local going black. So they knew exactly what caused it. ---
**Author:** ![Namdor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/namdor/32/396179_2.png) [@Namdor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Namdor)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2025, 1:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/null-is-too-easy/502486/39 "2025-12-25T13:01:55Z")
> [@Andlaust](#): > > Eve lost about 40% of it’s player base in 2014, and everything they did to cause that drop is still here today. There were a lot of major changes, like PLEX, citadels and Sov mechanics, that are still part of the game today. Fozzie sov was 2015, Citadels came out in 2016, PLEX split was in 2017? I think. ---
**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2025, 8:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/null-is-too-easy/502486/40 "2025-12-26T20:49:34Z")
> [@MB\_ThePhotographer](#): > > I find no part of eve scary. Yes you do - ME !!! [![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/9/4/f/94fba7ac1493db4874193ba6391deeb7ebc4c650.gif) ](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/9/4/f/94fba7ac1493db4874193ba6391deeb7ebc4c650.gif) [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/null-is-too-easy/502486.md?page=1) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/null-is-too-easy/502486.md?page=3)