# Nullsec Alliance Cowardice Ladder

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/nullsec-alliance-cowardice-ladder/418078>\
**Category:** Crime & Punishment\
**Created:** [August 31, 2023, 3:52am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/nullsec-alliance-cowardice-ladder/418078 "2023-08-31T03:52:37Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 16

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**Author:** ![Io\_Koval](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/io_koval/32/282426_2.png) [@Io\_Koval](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Io_Koval)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2023, 7:47am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/nullsec-alliance-cowardice-ladder/418078/302 "2023-09-11T07:47:13Z")

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> [@Githany\_Red](#):
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> never seen dedicated large fleets

They do big dedicated fleets for structure bashes.

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**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2023, 9:23am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/nullsec-alliance-cowardice-ladder/418078/303 "2023-09-11T09:23:32Z")

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> [@Aiko\_Danuja](#):
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> New players are not helpless little infants

 ![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/a/0/b/a0bfe2768ea339ef4b8bb534899e52df1281595d.jpeg)

> [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](#):
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> I also believe that all level 3 and 4 missions should be moved to low.

Oh that will be fun, low sec pirates like @Ax_l_Thorne gonna love that.

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**Author:** ![Githany\_Red](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/githany_red/32/378551_2.png) [@Githany\_Red](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Githany_Red)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2023, 10:21am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/nullsec-alliance-cowardice-ladder/418078/304 "2023-09-11T10:21:40Z")

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> [@Zaera\_Keena](#):
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> Oh that will be fun, low sec pirates like @Ax_l_Thorne gonna love that.

You say that but in the past my group lived in a low sec area and worked with other groups to keep us all safe , I remember some low sec pirates thought they would send two dreads to attack us , the word went out all pve stopped and we jumped into combat ships and killed them both why holding their support at the gate, they desperately tried to dock but we bumped them away. They only ever stayed at the gate and their mother shop was a real pain for us

We knew where they lived and would attack them too but all good fun to be had by all

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**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2023, 12:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/nullsec-alliance-cowardice-ladder/418078/305 "2023-09-11T12:29:01Z")

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> [@Githany\_Red](#):
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> my group lived in a low sec area and worked with other groups to keep us all safe

The low sec area I lived in, you would have been used for target practice, police girl.

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**Author:** ![Alice\_Saki](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/alice_saki/32/486142_2.png) [@Alice\_Saki](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Alice_Saki)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2023, 12:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/nullsec-alliance-cowardice-ladder/418078/306 "2023-09-11T12:31:16Z")

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Few things I don’t agree with, mainly you’re take on Ivy xD

Fun Read, looking forward to more 😃

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**Author:** ![Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ax_l_thorne/32/412835_2.png) [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ax_l_Thorne)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2023, 12:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/nullsec-alliance-cowardice-ladder/418078/307 "2023-09-11T12:48:10Z")

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> [@Githany\_Red](#):
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> I remember some low sec pirates thought they would send two dreads to attack us

Doubt.

Low sec pirates don’t use dreads.

At most, they will use a battleship as bait, with a pair of pilgrims waiting for some hapless other pirate to land on it.

But dreads? Nah. Too expensive and too niche for general solo/small group roams.

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**Author:** ![Alice\_Saki](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/alice_saki/32/486142_2.png) [@Alice\_Saki](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Alice_Saki)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2023, 12:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/nullsec-alliance-cowardice-ladder/418078/308 "2023-09-11T12:49:57Z")

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> [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](#):
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> Low sec pirates don’t use dreads.

Cough

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**Author:** ![Arya\_Yeshe](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arya_yeshe/32/397211_2.png) [@Arya\_Yeshe](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arya_Yeshe)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2023, 1:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/nullsec-alliance-cowardice-ladder/418078/309 "2023-09-11T13:47:22Z")

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I’ve seen Governor Lee multiple times, it is quite odd that I find him everywhere. I’ve seen them in a structure bash once, it was solid

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**Author:** ![Arya\_Yeshe](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arya_yeshe/32/397211_2.png) [@Arya\_Yeshe](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arya_Yeshe)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2023, 1:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/nullsec-alliance-cowardice-ladder/418078/310 "2023-09-11T13:47:44Z")

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> [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](#):
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> Low sec pirates don’t use dreads.

I wish that was true 😅

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**Author:** ![James\_Fuchs](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/james_fuchs/32/504955_2.png) [@James\_Fuchs](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/James_Fuchs)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2023, 2:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/nullsec-alliance-cowardice-ladder/418078/311 "2023-09-11T14:28:42Z")

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> [@Alice\_Saki](#):
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> Few things I don’t agree with, mainly you’re take on Ivy xD
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> Fun Read, looking forward to more 😃

Ivy was there when the structure timer’s were up. Where were you? Oh right, tripping all over yourself trying to bash rookie pilots, that you lost all your capital toys along the way:

 ![grafik](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/7/f/1/7f16f7eb57ca4e62b4c791419dcd02e537c0efb0.png)

 ![grafik](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/4/3/d/43df4ecc17a7b6e492b1dcc2f35dca77787ee708.png)

Cannot deal with the mighty thorax fleet without at least 10 supers on the grid, I understand.

No idea why you’re obsessed with Ivy league of all things to wage war with. Oh, let me guess, they seemed like an easy target and you wanted to feel powerful for once in your life? Tell me how it went.

![grafik](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/optimized/4X/2/8/5/285fd8d85067fb793592cacdb5456f50cafdb51a_2_690x57.png)

With interested regards  
-James Fuchs

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**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2023, 2:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/nullsec-alliance-cowardice-ladder/418078/312 "2023-09-11T14:40:53Z")

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> [@Githany\_Red](#):
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> I did see them in small numbers getting involved in many parts of eve , never seen dedicated large fleets

That’s because there is excellent sub-division into smaller groups that do specific tasks, which is how any good organisation should work, whilst at the same time maintaining the ability for large fleets to be formed.

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**Author:** ![Githany\_Red](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/githany_red/32/378551_2.png) [@Githany\_Red](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Githany_Red)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2023, 2:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/nullsec-alliance-cowardice-ladder/418078/313 "2023-09-11T14:46:26Z")

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This was when they 1st come out , no chance of a counter drop , and you could setup dreads to kill sub caps .

I never lie , you should know that

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**Author:** ![Alice\_Saki](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/alice_saki/32/486142_2.png) [@Alice\_Saki](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Alice_Saki)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2023, 2:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/nullsec-alliance-cowardice-ladder/418078/314 "2023-09-11T14:56:03Z")

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Firstly that Arthnor was put up for a laugh, We’re were shocked it went up ^^

Don’t be silly we only use Supers to RF.

You guys seem to forget CFT only has like 10 pilots. (The FW bois do there own thing)

We never run of Captials xD

Not Obesessed It’s our Stomping ground

Before Eve uni it was ired or iblue I forget which one. Maybe both xD

We’re looking for someone else to mess with now. 🙂

Edit: you should know this I just noticed you’re Eve Uni

With Trolly regards  
-Alice ‘Former Forum Queen’ Saki

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**Author:** ![Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ax_l_thorne/32/412835_2.png) [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ax_l_Thorne)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2023, 2:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/nullsec-alliance-cowardice-ladder/418078/315 "2023-09-11T14:58:34Z")

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I guess the circles I ran in,

Black rebel rifta club, stay frosty, etc, didn’t.

Nor have I ever seen one in the Hevrice and Laslanier areas when I roamed there.

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**Author:** ![James\_Fuchs](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/james_fuchs/32/504955_2.png) [@James\_Fuchs](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/James_Fuchs)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2023, 3:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/nullsec-alliance-cowardice-ladder/418078/316 "2023-09-11T15:58:22Z")

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Ok.

With hilarious regards  
-James Fuchs (Not Eve-Uni anymore, just for the record)

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**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2023, 6:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/nullsec-alliance-cowardice-ladder/418078/317 "2023-09-11T18:36:58Z")

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> [@Githany\_Red](#):
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> I never lie , you should know that

Not knowingly perhaphs, but you do have a good sense of humor

> [@Githany\_Red](#):
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> We regularly got the Goddess and Painter fleets to fail and log out

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**Author:** ![Githany\_Red](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/githany_red/32/378551_2.png) [@Githany\_Red](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Githany_Red)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2023, 7:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/nullsec-alliance-cowardice-ladder/418078/318 "2023-09-11T19:20:36Z")

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The like was for how far you went back to find that to try and support your post, impressive

But Again true , if anti- gank turned up and only one of the gank fleets was operating we could stop them , once they joined forces nothing could stop them , other than a perfectly timed burst.

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**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2023, 8:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/nullsec-alliance-cowardice-ladder/418078/319 "2023-09-11T20:19:44Z")

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> [@Githany\_Red](#):
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> The like was for how far you went back to find that to try and support your post

Now don’t lie @Githany_Red

We both know it is because I am awesome

![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/b/7/8/b78293e17cfd375351f3280648dd4190bc6242b8.webp)

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**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2023, 7:54am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/nullsec-alliance-cowardice-ladder/418078/320 "2023-09-27T07:54:59Z")

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Who are the Gooseflock Featheration and why do they Honk Honk. Scare you?

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**Author:** ![Io\_Koval](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/io_koval/32/282426_2.png) [@Io\_Koval](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Io_Koval)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2023, 8:40am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/nullsec-alliance-cowardice-ladder/418078/321 "2023-09-27T08:40:09Z")

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They no longer exist and are famous for imploding following botting allegations that came out when they put up a candidate for CSM.

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