# Nullsec Alliance Cowardice Ladder

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/nullsec-alliance-cowardice-ladder/418078>\
**Category:** Crime & Punishment\
**Created:** [August 31, 2023, 3:52am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/nullsec-alliance-cowardice-ladder/418078 "2023-08-31T03:52:37Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2023, 11:38am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/nullsec-alliance-cowardice-ladder/418078/22 "2023-08-31T11:38:17Z")

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> [@Wadiest\_Yong](#):
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> Want a small scale fight ? Try to rob an ESS

I tried doing that twice last year. One time in a public gang where the defenders smack-talked until they suddenly dropped a 5x gang on us, and another when I was alone learning filaments where the locals said some very mean things in Chinese to me until like 20 Rooks arrived out of nowhere.

I’m sure if I do it a few hundred times though, I’ll end up getting an honoUrable fight at some point! But I don’t see the need to, since I can make more money _and_ have more fun dunking one of your multi-billion-ISK haulers!

> [@Wadiest\_Yong](#):
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> I don’t judge your playstyle, as long as you don’t judge mine.

I just _did._ Whachu gon’ do 'bout it, big boy?

![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/0/a/c/0ac8839dd3f4c7d9ddc7ba6b06985d13f6f1fa94.gif)

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**Author:** ![Wadiest\_Yong](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wadiest_yong/32/426921_2.png) [@Wadiest\_Yong](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wadiest_Yong)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2023, 11:42am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/nullsec-alliance-cowardice-ladder/418078/23 "2023-08-31T11:42:21Z")

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> [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#):
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> I just _did._ Whachu gon’ do 'bout it, big boy?

Laugh, then giggle, then laugh again while trying to drink my coffee, then curse you, what else ?

 ![68ft_lol](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/7/3/7366ce955f3992ceaf461ea45ddfcc2cd30c5b57.jpeg)

> [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#):
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> the locals said some very mean things in Chinese to me until like 20 Rooks arrived out of nowhere.

Destiny ! Rule number 13/2 for pvp clearly states: narrow Local until you only see names, not the text, while Rule number 13/3 for pvp stipulates that running google translate on any smack talk in Local is a waste of time and will potentially result in the loss of your ship. q.e.d.  
Keep using dscan, and focus !  
lmao  
 ![DiscreteVengefulEel-size_restricted](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/9/8/5/985bf525d9cad3df779604ee7957f7afaa827735.gif)

> [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#):
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> until they suddenly dropped a 5x gang on us,

And this of course:  
 ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/3/e/0/3e0a913e9df02b5a0df600d86c4f3258cce7a5ba.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2023, 11:46am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/nullsec-alliance-cowardice-ladder/418078/24 "2023-08-31T11:46:19Z")

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That’s _it._ I’ve had _enough_ of your insolent schadenfreude.

_You_ sir just cost your alliance _another point._

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**Author:** ![Akkar\_Kardashev](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/akkar_kardashev/32/514189_2.png) [@Akkar\_Kardashev](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Akkar_Kardashev)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2023, 11:47am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/nullsec-alliance-cowardice-ladder/418078/25 "2023-08-31T11:47:28Z")

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![aye dead on](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/b/c/0/bc08645ea569b88756a507c7656e86f9b4b2383d.gif)

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**Author:** ![Wadiest\_Yong](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wadiest_yong/32/426921_2.png) [@Wadiest\_Yong](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wadiest_Yong)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2023, 11:48am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/nullsec-alliance-cowardice-ladder/418078/26 "2023-08-31T11:48:40Z")

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I’m sure it will keep them awake at night.  
 ![giphy (66)](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/7/2/d/72dc0699f5dc30a21c8d68a4633227ee8e813288.gif)

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**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2023, 11:53am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/nullsec-alliance-cowardice-ladder/418078/27 "2023-08-31T11:53:15Z")

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**Author:** ![Io\_Koval](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/io_koval/32/282426_2.png) [@Io\_Koval](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Io_Koval)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2023, 11:57am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/nullsec-alliance-cowardice-ladder/418078/28 "2023-08-31T11:57:23Z")

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> [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#):
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> Encountering Russian players outside of those organizations usually yields fairly conventional interactions.

My experience does not corroborate this. The amount of times I’ve been called a homosexual or an anus or told to conduct autofellatio by a Russian individual not in a big group is completely disproportionate.

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**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2023, 12:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/nullsec-alliance-cowardice-ladder/418078/29 "2023-08-31T12:04:54Z")

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You’re kinda right. I’ll edit the post to make the disparity not seem so big. It definitely still happens, just maybe not quite as often as when they’re part of a Slav PUG.

In their defense, though, if all you had in life was playing EVE inside your crumbling khrushchevka with the soviet floral wallpaper peeling off and a broken samovar in the kitchen, you’d be pretty angry too.

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**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2023, 12:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/nullsec-alliance-cowardice-ladder/418078/30 "2023-08-31T12:22:11Z")

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I just follow it all for the useful info…like discovering one can command burst one’s own ship. And a lot of useful fittings. Information is the most powerful weapon in Eve.

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**Author:** ![Wadiest\_Yong](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wadiest_yong/32/426921_2.png) [@Wadiest\_Yong](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wadiest_Yong)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2023, 12:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/nullsec-alliance-cowardice-ladder/418078/31 "2023-08-31T12:23:07Z")

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yup, try that on a passive shield drake 🙂

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**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2023, 12:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/nullsec-alliance-cowardice-ladder/418078/32 "2023-08-31T12:27:02Z")

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> [@Io\_Koval](#):
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> The amount of times I’ve been called…

Had that with Parabellum in the Finanar war. Oh well…there’s zero activity on killboard from them since that war. Did they abandon and join a new corp ?

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**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2023, 12:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/nullsec-alliance-cowardice-ladder/418078/33 "2023-08-31T12:29:20Z")

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Hey Wad, tell your alliance member that I thank them for their valuable contribution. They logged off too quickly before I could type it out!

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**Author:** ![Io\_Koval](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/io_koval/32/282426_2.png) [@Io\_Koval](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Io_Koval)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2023, 12:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/nullsec-alliance-cowardice-ladder/418078/34 "2023-08-31T12:30:46Z")

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Yeah I hear you. I go out of my way not to aggravate them (besides the initial action of having blown up their heron or venture) but if it escalates into them sending me 4 or 5 Eve Mails in a row (or „notify contact Terrible Standing“ spam by repeatedly adding/removing me as a contact) then I’ll send a simple „Слава Украине“ which I have found shuts them up 100% of the time. It probably helps that Koval is a Ukrainian surname.

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**Author:** ![Wadiest\_Yong](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wadiest_yong/32/426921_2.png) [@Wadiest\_Yong](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wadiest_Yong)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2023, 12:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/nullsec-alliance-cowardice-ladder/418078/35 "2023-08-31T12:36:32Z")

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How could you ! Spilling the blood of an innocent tech1 prober ! Grrrr hat hisec, hat gankers, hat wardecs !!  
 ![hysterical-crying-buffy](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/3/7/4/374ed45222792e1631a4e0dabf7e27e3272fa717.gif)

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**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2023, 12:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/nullsec-alliance-cowardice-ladder/418078/36 "2023-08-31T12:39:09Z")

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![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/8/a/6/8a62f8563492efcc1a116b98054dd44733c74afe.png)

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**Author:** ![Akkar\_Kardashev](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/akkar_kardashev/32/514189_2.png) [@Akkar\_Kardashev](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Akkar_Kardashev)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2023, 12:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/nullsec-alliance-cowardice-ladder/418078/37 "2023-08-31T12:39:11Z")

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I often get mistaken for a russian player because of my username, I’m not, I just really like space stuff, and named my character after [Nikolai Kardashev](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nikolai_Kardashev)

This has unexpected benefits; newbs are deeply afraid of Russians for some reason and rarely bother me, even to beg.

Some assume I’m named after a Kardashian, which I can use as a handy, instant IQ test.

…on the subject of actual Russian players though, I’ve never had any smack talk from them, and there was one in my old corp who was a reasonable chap. They still kill the \*\*\*\* out of you though, like any other player.

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**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2023, 12:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/nullsec-alliance-cowardice-ladder/418078/38 "2023-08-31T12:43:56Z")

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> [@Akkar\_Kardashev](#):
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> Some assume I’m named after a Kardashian

That’s what I thought!

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**Author:** ![Wadiest\_Yong](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wadiest_yong/32/426921_2.png) [@Wadiest\_Yong](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wadiest_Yong)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2023, 12:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/nullsec-alliance-cowardice-ladder/418078/39 "2023-08-31T12:48:14Z")

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I think someone just failed your test

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**Author:** ![Akkar\_Kardashev](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/akkar_kardashev/32/514189_2.png) [@Akkar\_Kardashev](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Akkar_Kardashev)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2023, 12:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/nullsec-alliance-cowardice-ladder/418078/40 "2023-08-31T12:49:55Z")

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There’s one in every crowd

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**Author:** ![Wadiest\_Yong](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wadiest_yong/32/426921_2.png) [@Wadiest\_Yong](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wadiest_Yong)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2023, 12:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/nullsec-alliance-cowardice-ladder/418078/41 "2023-08-31T12:50:46Z")

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And then they blame US for ringing the wrong doorbell !

This game, I’m telling ya …

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