# Nullsec Alliance Cowardice Ladder **URL:** \ **Category:** Crime & Punishment\ **Created:** [August 31, 2023, 3:52am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/nullsec-alliance-cowardice-ladder/418078 "2023-08-31T03:52:37Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 23
**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2023, 6:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/nullsec-alliance-cowardice-ladder/418078/444 "2023-10-20T18:11:45Z")
![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/c/b/f/cbf1763d7bec2d7c54876908d3514ee68481a1ed.webp) ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2023, 7:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/nullsec-alliance-cowardice-ladder/418078/445 "2023-10-20T19:35:33Z")
> [@New\_Order\_Enforcer](#): > > It is the amount of mining permits you sell the only thing that matters ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/6/5/0/650a17736c4437784022f49a1d699d552f6193a9.png) My specialty is erasing counterfeit pleb permits. ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/f/c/0/fc0d925045ae11fe3dec0859165b5aa30b191e2b.png) ---
**Author:** ![Your\_Awesum\_Brutha](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/your_awesum_brutha/32/387010_2.png) [@Your\_Awesum\_Brutha](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Your_Awesum_Brutha)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2023, 9:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/nullsec-alliance-cowardice-ladder/418078/446 "2023-10-20T21:38:41Z")
Imagine selling permits for 100 mil, lol ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/0/9/c/09c9e033301040d9430dbdb2505b1441fb39f657.png) ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2023, 9:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/nullsec-alliance-cowardice-ladder/418078/447 "2023-10-20T21:56:09Z")
Imagine thinking it’s about the isk. Wannabes will always be wannabes. ---
**Author:** ![Githany\_Red](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/githany_red/32/378551_2.png) [@Githany\_Red](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Githany_Red)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2023, 12:56am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/nullsec-alliance-cowardice-ladder/418078/448 "2023-10-21T00:56:12Z")
> [@Aiko\_Danuja](#): > > Imagine thinking it’s about the isk. > > Wannabes will always be wannabes Do I detect some ganker tension here ☺ So Aiko have you made up with Mr Lee, killing his miners will have repercussions haha Interestingly why did that AO member think he should be immune to being ganked, even mining permits don’t offer that guarantee. ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2023, 12:57am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/nullsec-alliance-cowardice-ladder/418078/449 "2023-10-21T00:57:00Z")
Mr Lee loves me. Just ask him, he will confirm. ---
**Author:** ![Githany\_Red](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/githany_red/32/378551_2.png) [@Githany\_Red](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Githany_Red)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2023, 1:02am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/nullsec-alliance-cowardice-ladder/418078/450 "2023-10-21T01:02:41Z")
And the miners confusion? Did you give him his ice mining lasers back. Anyway hope your well . ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2023, 1:10am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/nullsec-alliance-cowardice-ladder/418078/451 "2023-10-21T01:10:50Z")
> [@Githany\_Red](#): > > Did you give him his ice mining lasers back. Nope. ---
**Author:** ![Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ax_l_thorne/32/412835_2.png) [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ax_l_Thorne)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2023, 2:46am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/nullsec-alliance-cowardice-ladder/418078/452 "2023-10-21T02:46:59Z")
> [@Altara\_Zemara](#): > > Oh but I am perfectly happy > [@New\_Order\_Enforcer](#): > > who is happier Kek, It’s silly that the two of you have made your “happiness” dependent on external factors. And one that is, in the large scheme of life, so completely asinine and fleeting. Sure Zkill is fun. But your source of happiness…. ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2023, 2:53am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/nullsec-alliance-cowardice-ladder/418078/453 "2023-10-21T02:53:56Z")
I think I’m the happiest one here. ---
**Author:** ![Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ax_l_thorne/32/412835_2.png) [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ax_l_Thorne)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2023, 3:36am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/nullsec-alliance-cowardice-ladder/418078/454 "2023-10-21T03:36:17Z")
I would agree with that. You’re doing what you love, and you don’t give a rats fart what others think about it. ---
**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2023, 3:45am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/nullsec-alliance-cowardice-ladder/418078/455 "2023-10-21T03:45:48Z")
> [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](#): > > It’s silly that the two of you have made your “happiness” dependent on external factors. And one that is, in the large scheme of life, so completely asinine and fleeting. Well, no. What could be more relevant in a PvP game than some kind of ‘score board’ ? I find it bizarre that anyone can be playing a PvP game and think that how people perform in it is somehow irrelevant. What’s the point of playing ? There _isn’t_ one…if someone with 4000 kills is in no sense ‘better’ than someone with 4000 losses. ---
**Author:** ![Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ax_l_thorne/32/412835_2.png) [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ax_l_Thorne)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2023, 4:06am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/nullsec-alliance-cowardice-ladder/418078/456 "2023-10-21T04:06:05Z")
> [@Altara\_Zemara](#): > > What could be more relevant in a PvP game than some kind of ‘score board’ How about: Having fun. Regardless of the leaderboards and rankings? ---
**Author:** ![Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ax_l_thorne/32/412835_2.png) [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ax_l_Thorne)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2023, 4:17am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/nullsec-alliance-cowardice-ladder/418078/457 "2023-10-21T04:17:05Z")
> [@Githany\_Red](#): > > And the miners confusion? Did you give him his ice mining lasers back. By the way, have you taken Aiko up on her offer to gank with her yet? I haven’t been keeping up with the drama between you two. ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2023, 4:46am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/nullsec-alliance-cowardice-ladder/418078/458 "2023-10-21T04:46:04Z")
Yes, today I was in Oipo harvesting the Crimson Order. Cilly was there in her Gnosis, helping out while I killed them one by one. ---
**Author:** ![Nabi\_Kim](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nabi_kim/32/390748_2.png) [@Nabi\_Kim](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nabi_Kim)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2023, 4:55am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/nullsec-alliance-cowardice-ladder/418078/459 "2023-10-21T04:55:27Z")
I log in and I’m instantly happy, because I don’t care about my wallet or my killboard. I have friends who love me and enemies I can annoy the life out of every evening. As long as I am having more fun than my enemies - who care about ISK, KBs, “winning”, and I _don’t_ therefore I automatically am having more fun - then I ultimately win. ---
**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2023, 5:19am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/nullsec-alliance-cowardice-ladder/418078/460 "2023-10-21T05:19:06Z")
> [@Aiko\_Danuja](#): > > Cilly was there in her Gnosis, helping out while I killed them one by one. Nooo…I was dual boxing with my new account. Alas, its a bit pointless warning people of ganker activity in the AO intel channel if people aren’t in the intel channel. ---
**Author:** ![Githany\_Red](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/githany_red/32/378551_2.png) [@Githany\_Red](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Githany_Red)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2023, 6:09am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/nullsec-alliance-cowardice-ladder/418078/461 "2023-10-21T06:09:33Z")
> [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](#): > > By the way, have you taken Aiko up on her offer to gank with her yet? > > I haven’t been keeping up with the drama between you two. No , I haven’t taken up her offer yet , on a break right now , to much real to do right now but I feel the need to return soon . ---
**Author:** ![Nabi\_Kim](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nabi_kim/32/390748_2.png) [@Nabi\_Kim](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nabi_Kim)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2023, 1:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/nullsec-alliance-cowardice-ladder/418078/462 "2023-10-21T13:39:47Z")
> [@Githany\_Red](#): > > No , I haven’t taken up her offer yet , on a break right now , to much real to do right now but I feel the need to return soon . Hasn’t the offer been standing for years at this point? ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2023, 6:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/nullsec-alliance-cowardice-ladder/418078/463 "2023-10-21T18:36:44Z")
I was told that I did not gank, and yet I ganked a fair few ganker scouts just for lol’s. I loved it when we could gank freighter wrecks with destroyers, that was the best! Sadly Githany joined the frey too late to gank freighter wrecks on the same cost level as gankers, but if they could be ganked by destroyers I am sure Githhny would be ganking like no tomorrow… [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/nullsec-alliance-cowardice-ladder/418078.md?page=22) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/nullsec-alliance-cowardice-ladder/418078.md?page=24)