# Oaths of Loyalty and Reflections upon the new year **URL:** \ **Category:** Intergalactic Summit\ **Created:** [January 6, 2020, 4:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/oaths-of-loyalty-and-reflections-upon-the-new-year/210211 "2020-01-06T16:35:54Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 24
**Author:** ![Astaire\_Quatrevaux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/astaire_quatrevaux/32/278706_2.png) [@Astaire\_Quatrevaux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Astaire_Quatrevaux)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2020, 7:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/oaths-of-loyalty-and-reflections-upon-the-new-year/210211/24 "2020-01-06T19:46:38Z")
> [@Lyra\_North-Onren](#): > > You can sure enough usually easily see what somebody’s principles actually are, but what an oath does is clarify what principles somebody claims to adhere to. It makes it easier to call out hypocrites and hold people accountable for their acts. This is fair in theory, but in practice–as we’ve recently seen–no one _actually_ suffers consequences for their actions. When a capsuleer is called out here, does anything really come of it? On the one hand, those who would heed being called out would more likely listen to friends than rabble-rousers on a forum. And those who wouldn’t, well, there’s not much difference either way. Even the most diabolical individuals can find support somewhere. > [@Cain\_Aloga](#): > > In short, I am reaffirmig my identity as a Matari Loyalist capsuleer, both to myself and others. Your membership in Electus Matari manages that just fine. > [@Elsebeth\_Rhiannon](#): > > So, one of mine, and one of the Brutor Tribe, posts an Oath to his clan and his Republic, and suddenly the thread is full of _foreigners_ questioning it, explaining it, arguing it, talking back at it, putting it down, demanding explanations? Were you expecting something different? --- _[View the full topic](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/oaths-of-loyalty-and-reflections-upon-the-new-year/210211)._