# Observation on ganking & the rules

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/observation-on-ganking-the-rules/181900>\
**Category:** Crime & Punishment\
**Tags:** pvp\
**Created:** [August 13, 2019, 2:53am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/observation-on-ganking-the-rules/181900 "2019-08-13T02:53:45Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2019, 8:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/observation-on-ganking-the-rules/181900/73 "2019-08-14T20:39:24Z")

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> [@Arcxhisseus](#):
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> thinking i was going to travel the whole map and explore and find things to do without having some geek nerd dork dweeb punk squads pulling up and demanding a ransom or be blown up.

The question is, why did you think this?

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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2019, 8:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/observation-on-ganking-the-rules/181900/75 "2019-08-14T20:45:59Z")

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Then Im guessing you didnt research the game before deciding to play.

What made you interested in playing EvE, if I may ask?

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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2019, 8:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/observation-on-ganking-the-rules/181900/77 "2019-08-14T20:54:26Z")

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Well, no, clearly your idea of fun is sitting 100km away shooting missiles at red triangles by clicking F1.

Is it like fishing for you?

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**Author:** ![Vokan\_Narkar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vokan_narkar/32/326293_2.png) [@Vokan\_Narkar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vokan_Narkar)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2019, 9:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/observation-on-ganking-the-rules/181900/78 "2019-08-14T21:16:42Z")

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“They are just this skilled”. Get over with. You won’t get them banned or penalized, many ppls tried before you. They are either 100% legit or they aren’t but CCP cannot detect it, which in the end is the same thing.

CCP makes a lot of cash on players like this too and their activity helps EVE in general so why would they ban them even if they are cheating.

It is pointless to make threads like this or finger point at them saying it is not possible. These players have a lot of support from community and CCP.

If you cannot multibox 20 gank alts, one bumper, one scanner and one loot fairy alt you are doing something wrong. 🤣

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**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2019, 9:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/observation-on-ganking-the-rules/181900/79 "2019-08-14T21:54:14Z")

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BAWWWK BAWK BAWK BAWWWWWK BAWKBAWK

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**Author:** ![Natashalynn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/natashalynn/32/142458_2.png) [@Natashalynn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Natashalynn)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2019, 10:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/observation-on-ganking-the-rules/181900/80 "2019-08-14T22:39:09Z")

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The thing about EvE, and its something that I have enjoyed as I continue playing the game, is that everyone is scheming to gain off another’s misfortune. Well, I take that back as there are some folkes that are awesome and genuinely care, but for the most part its kindof a given that everyone is trying to blow you up or find someway to take something from you or even do things out of spite to make you upset. It just goes without saying to expect that along with your ship & capsule incinerated when undocking. It shouldn’t be a surprise no matter where you are as the greed and hate will find you.

That is why I do enjoy the game as it makes you think about what you do before following through if you want to succeed. Don’t bling your ships out, especially, if your going into low sec. You do know Low sec is all ship to ship combat with other players, right? As soon as you pop in local they scanning and looking to see what your in, guaranteed. The only time I might bling a ship out in low sec, wh, or null is if i’m flying with others with a specific purpose.

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**Author:** ![Haulie\_Berry](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/haulie_berry/32/388021_2.png) [@Haulie\_Berry](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Haulie_Berry)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2019, 11:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/observation-on-ganking-the-rules/181900/81 "2019-08-14T23:05:29Z")

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> [@Arcxhisseus](#):
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> thinking i was going to travel the whole map and explore and find things to do without having some geek nerd dork dweeb punk squads pulling up and demanding a ransom or be blown up.

That’s totally possible, but you have to actually do it with a modicum of intelligence. Trundling out into low-sec by yourself in a lumbering loot pinata with no concept of how to either avoid **or** engage in PvP is going to end… predictably. There is no “PvE only” mode in Eve, so you have to conduct yourself accordingly.

You’re blaming other players, the game, and generally anything **except** yourself for the fact that you managed to get yourself killed four times in the same general area, flying the same ship, doing the same thing, all in pretty short order.

If you keep making poor decisions that leave you vulnerable to attackers while entirely failing to manage your risk, you’re going to keep dying. 🤷‍♀️

The solution is to make better decisions or, failing that, contract me your stuff.

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**Author:** ![Natashalynn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/natashalynn/32/142458_2.png) [@Natashalynn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Natashalynn)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2019, 11:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/observation-on-ganking-the-rules/181900/82 "2019-08-14T23:08:34Z")

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Another thing, and I couldn’t keep from snickering when i saw this, don’t put a smartbomb on your blinged out 5 bill Kronos when doing anything in highsec. smartbombs are a great way to get concorded and used for suicide ganks sometimes or gate campers. Not saying you were thinking about doing this but maybe other readers will see it and save the day for a pirates feast in low sec. idk

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**Author:** ![Knowledgeminer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/knowledgeminer/32/422883_2.png) [@Knowledgeminer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Knowledgeminer)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2019, 2:51am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/observation-on-ganking-the-rules/181900/83 "2019-08-15T02:51:13Z")

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> [@Arcxhisseus](#):
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> I’m just wondering what could have happened in these people’s lives to make them feel so cool while ganking little nooblets.

You’re not wondering anything. You clearly don’t even have the intellectual capability to do that. You’re simply making wrong assumptions one after another, showing how utterly clueless and unable to differentiate between game and reality you are.

> [@Arcxhisseus](#):
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> only demented miserable losers, living in their mom’s basement (or attic at times), without a gf in their lives (or bf) would log into a game looking for new players to kill and find it amusing.

Only demented miserable losers unable to make any kind of rational analysis of anything would infer something like this from the fact that someone else may have fun shooting ships in a spaceship shooting game.

Only self-important self-entitled intellectually impaired losers would think they’re so special that, simply because they’re noobs, they should be treated differently from everyone else in this game when they go to **low sec** in a faction battleship.

> [@Arcxhisseus](#):
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> That’s my opinion

You may rest assured that nobody that saw what you had to say here will care the slightest what your “opinion” about _anything_ is.

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**Author:** ![Knowledgeminer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/knowledgeminer/32/422883_2.png) [@Knowledgeminer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Knowledgeminer)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2019, 3:11am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/observation-on-ganking-the-rules/181900/84 "2019-08-15T03:11:22Z")

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> [@darkestkhan\_Eriker](#):
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> This is one thing I miss - people used to check what they are getting into…

Not necessarily. There really is nothing wrong with having come across the game for whatever reason, wanting to try it without having a clue what it’s about, and then learning as you go.

What’s amazing is how some think whatever bad happens to them has to be someone else’s fault and not something they could be missing, doing wrong, or making wrong assumptions about.

What’s utterly wrong is, if someone finds he doesn’t like the game for whatever reason after having tried it, then come to the forums to insult the players that do happen to like it and play it as intended, just because he’s unable to understand it, learn to play it properly, or differentiate between game and reality…

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**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2019, 6:51am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/observation-on-ganking-the-rules/181900/85 "2019-08-15T06:51:57Z")

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> [@Vokan\_Narkar](#):
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> They are either 100% legit or they aren’t but CCP cannot detect it, which in the end is the same thing.

> [@Vokan\_Narkar](#):
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> CCP makes a lot of cash on players like this too and their activity helps EVE in general so why would they ban them even if they are cheating.

Well seems that you have your doubts too.

> [@Vokan\_Narkar](#):
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> You won’t get them banned or penalized, many ppls tried before you.

I believe that you failed to notice that I said I did not petition it, I just thought that they were getting sloppy with their cheating.

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**Author:** ![Karak\_Terrel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/karak_terrel/32/373453_2.png) [@Karak\_Terrel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Karak_Terrel)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2019, 8:06am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/observation-on-ganking-the-rules/181900/86 "2019-08-15T08:06:53Z")

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> [@Knowledgeminer](#):
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> They may simply issue the warp fleet command at the right moment when they see the faction police coming, and then they have plenty of time (even if at 350 Km or whatever) to issue the jump command to all the chars.

This always puzzles me in games, not just EVE. Sometimes you have players who are so bad they perceive even moderate gameplay as “hacks” because they somehow can’t make the connection that it is their own shortcomings so it must be the other guy cheating.

And I mean what we are talking about here is an extreme example of that. The fact that someone even has to explain how easy it is to do manually what he thinks is “suspicious” is super ridiculous.

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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2019, 8:41am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/observation-on-ganking-the-rules/181900/87 "2019-08-15T08:41:08Z")

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Until it was written down, I totally forgot its what I do near automatically.

Dang

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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2019, 8:42am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/observation-on-ganking-the-rules/181900/88 "2019-08-15T08:42:27Z")

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> [@Knowledgeminer](#):
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> What’s amazing is how some think whatever bad happens to them has to be someone else’s fault and not something they could be missing, doing wrong, or making wrong assumptions about.

Id say it was most people, not some.

No one takes any personal responisibility these days

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**Author:** ![Arcxhisseus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arcxhisseus/32/299996_2.png) [@Arcxhisseus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arcxhisseus)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2019, 12:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/observation-on-ganking-the-rules/181900/89 "2019-08-15T12:54:39Z")

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Ima lumbering loot pinata!

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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2019, 12:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/observation-on-ganking-the-rules/181900/90 "2019-08-15T12:57:03Z")

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Thats the spirit!

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**Author:** ![Arcxhisseus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arcxhisseus/32/299996_2.png) [@Arcxhisseus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arcxhisseus)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2019, 2:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/observation-on-ganking-the-rules/181900/91 "2019-08-15T14:21:08Z")

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You didn’t just say that like David in Alien Covenant did by chance? lol.

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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2019, 2:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/observation-on-ganking-the-rules/181900/92 "2019-08-15T14:23:01Z")

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Unlikely, I never saw it because Prometheus was like a Love Island contestant.

Pretty to look at but utterly worthless in every other measurable way

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**Author:** ![Arcxhisseus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arcxhisseus/32/299996_2.png) [@Arcxhisseus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arcxhisseus)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2019, 2:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/observation-on-ganking-the-rules/181900/93 "2019-08-15T14:30:00Z")

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Still better than anything else out there concerning sci-fi horror/adventure.

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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2019, 2:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/observation-on-ganking-the-rules/181900/94 "2019-08-15T14:45:38Z")

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You must never have seen The Thing.

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