# Observations made as a new player **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [December 26, 2025, 4:37am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/observations-made-as-a-new-player/503843 "2025-12-26T04:37:23Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 13\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Gealbhan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gealbhan/32/452651_2.png) [@Gealbhan](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gealbhan)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2025, 9:48am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/observations-made-as-a-new-player/503843/21 "2025-12-26T09:48:00Z")
You should have been here oh 10 or so years ago. The game has calmed down quite a lot since then. ---
**Author:** ![Taarna\_The\_Taarakian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/taarna_the_taarakian/32/485220_2.png) [@Taarna\_The\_Taarakian](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Taarna_The_Taarakian)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2025, 10:29am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/observations-made-as-a-new-player/503843/22 "2025-12-26T10:29:43Z")
Bit of an update - started a new alt after reading this feedback fully. I opted into minmatar as I found out the starting zone is much less populated than Jita. Taking my time with the Rifter to lean into learning kitting and the dynamics of projectile turret gameplay where speed and AOA are more of a factor within engaments. Took sometime to watch this video and learned more about the actual target audence for this game. Interesting to learn about it’s Nordic/Icelandic inspiriation for development and gameplay style. [EVE Online | Down the Rabbit Hole](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BCSeISYcoyI&t=5s) ---
**Author:** ![Andlaust](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/andlaust/32/422007_2.png) [@Andlaust](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Andlaust)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2025, 10:37am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/observations-made-as-a-new-player/503843/23 "2025-12-26T10:37:59Z")
> [@Taarna\_The\_Taarakian](#): > > Eve is a PVP/PVE game wanting to grow When you begin everything on the basis of a glaring misconception, then the premise of the entire argument is flawed. Eve is not a PvP/PvE game, it’s is a full PvP game where you earn money for that PvP through PvE activities. To try and play Eve as a PvE game is utterly idiotic. If you think Dark Souls is difficult, you don’t demand From Software make an easier version, you go play something else. This isn’t difficult to figure out. > [@Taarna\_The\_Taarakian](#): > > allows it’s new player base to be literally consumed by it’s PVP older player base that explicitly targets new player zones. This is completely incorrect. It is a violation of the Terms of Service to attack players newer than 30 days in the rookie systems. [https://support.eveonline.com/hc/en-us/articles/203209712-Rookie-Griefing](https://support.eveonline.com/hc/en-us/articles/203209712-Rookie-Griefing) > [@Taarna\_The\_Taarakian](#): > > The game has great potential - but the devs refuse to recognize this internal community cannibalism taking place causing most if not all of it’s new player base to quit. Leading to majority of the negative reviews listed. Sure, the game has only been played this way for _ **22 years** _, but now that you’re here we can finally figure out where we’ve been going wrong for the past two decades. 🙄 Just go play something else, and leave the thousands of us to enjoy our game. Go back to using cheat codes to beat Dark Souls while you whine at From Software to make you an easier version. ---
**Author:** ![Syzygium](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/syzygium/32/510263_2.png) [@Syzygium](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Syzygium)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2025, 10:38am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/observations-made-as-a-new-player/503843/24 "2025-12-26T10:38:46Z")
> [@Taarna\_The\_Taarakian](#): > > I opted into minmatar as I found out the starting zone is much less populated than Jita. Taking my time with the Rifter to lean into learning kitting and the dynamics of projectile turret gameplay where speed and AOA are more of a factor within engaments. With the Minmatar Ship Line and Autocannons I’d recommend brawling and sig-tanking instead of kiting, to use the agility and speed of the Minmatar ships. You will want to come close with Autocannons and use the increased number of Medslots (compared to Amarr or Gallente) to control the movement of your opponent (Scram/Web). Of course you _can_ try to kite, but then with Artillery-Setups and a long point to prevent the target from warping off. However I believe that usually works best with a (passive) shield tank to use the lows for increased maneuverability to maintain your range and speed advantage (Nanofibers). ---
**Author:** ![Antihrist\_Pripravnik](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/antihrist_pripravnik/32/502236_2.png) [@Antihrist\_Pripravnik](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Antihrist_Pripravnik)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2025, 12:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/observations-made-as-a-new-player/503843/25 "2025-12-26T12:23:25Z")
You have a misconception about what a starter zone is. Here, let me help you: [https://support.eveonline.com/hc/en-us/articles/203209712-Rookie-Griefing](https://support.eveonline.com/hc/en-us/articles/203209712-Rookie-Griefing) As others have suggested, EVE is pretty safe and enjoyable experience once you learn how to play it and there are some excellent groups of players that are willing to teach you. ---
**Author:** ![Razor8lade](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/razor8lade/32/469689_2.png) [@Razor8lade](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Razor8lade)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2025, 12:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/observations-made-as-a-new-player/503843/26 "2025-12-26T12:31:16Z")
Sink or swim, baby boy. ---
**Author:** ![Dark\_Lord\_Trump](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dark_lord_trump/32/411482_2.png) [@Dark\_Lord\_Trump](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dark_Lord_Trump)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2025, 1:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/observations-made-as-a-new-player/503843/27 "2025-12-26T13:17:13Z")
I have nothing useful to add here but I just want to say that it’s great that OP is taking the advice they’re given instead of whining. ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2025, 2:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/observations-made-as-a-new-player/503843/28 "2025-12-26T14:36:35Z")
> [@Taarna\_The\_Taarakian](#): > > Taking my time with the Rifter Buy a freighter load of Rifters and just use them. Even better, buy a mixture of frigates, and experiment with all of them. You could do that for years. Competent frigate pilots are some of the best players in the game. The biggest misunderstanding people have is they imagine a progression from ‘beginner’ frigates to ‘expert’ Titans, and everybody is in a rush to reach the endgame. Most of them never truly play the game. In reality, every ship has its own use and application, and there’s no shame in flying a smaller ship. Each ship has its own unique style and engagement profile. Me personally, I’m obviously the best destroyer squadron group commander in the game, and I’m proud of that. EvE Online would be stale if everyone flew a battleship. 🍞 ---
**Author:** ![Tiger\_space\_Thedark](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tiger_space_thedark/32/373728_2.png) [@Tiger\_space\_Thedark](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tiger_space_Thedark)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2025, 4:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/observations-made-as-a-new-player/503843/29 "2025-12-26T16:46:29Z")
hello swing post alt number 650 ---
**Author:** ![Gerard\_Amatin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gerard_amatin/32/481361_2.png) [@Gerard\_Amatin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gerard_Amatin)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2025, 5:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/observations-made-as-a-new-player/503843/30 "2025-12-26T17:38:45Z")
It seems you’re flying ships far more expensive than I risked flying in my first years in EVE. It’s a lot more affordable to go through the usual learning curve by losing T1 ships instead. You _will_ lose ships to simple mistakes at the start and it doesn’t help you if those ships are worth hundreds of millions of ISK to learn things like “Tama is a notoriously dangerous low sec system” or “Arazus are cloaky ships used to hunt for black ops fleets”. Maybe you enjoy earning ISK for new ships more than I do, but personally I prefer to fly cost-effective ships if it means I won’t have to make as much ISK to replace them. > [@Taarna\_The\_Taarakian](#): > > And it’s kill on site - No negotiation or time to react. You’re right: EVE is usually kill on sight. Kill or be killed, kill whatever you can catch and hopefully it isn’t bait for a bigger group that then kills you. There can be time to react if you know what to react to and have your counterplay ready. But as new player you probably won’t know all those options just yet so I’d fly cheap while you try some of them and see what works and what doesn’t. EVE is a fun game, but expect to lose some ships while you learn. Good luck! ---
**Author:** ![Meridan\_Night](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/meridan_night/32/488304_2.png) [@Meridan\_Night](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Meridan_Night)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2025, 8:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/observations-made-as-a-new-player/503843/31 "2025-12-26T20:46:35Z")
Here’s one of my first losses in the game: > **[Harbinger | Meridan Night | Killmail](https://zkillboard.com/kill/12083221/)** > > Meridan Night (Creatures of Night) lost their Harbinger in Klogori (Metropolis). Final Blow by Nashh Kadavr (The Bastards) flying solo in a Enyo. Total Value: 58,597,335.87 ISK I had been playing for 3 months. I went into low sec just to check it out. Got popped. Didn’t even think about quitting or complaining. Next month I was in null sec solo. ---
**Author:** ![Dark\_Lord\_Trump](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dark_lord_trump/32/411482_2.png) [@Dark\_Lord\_Trump](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dark_Lord_Trump)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2025, 9:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/observations-made-as-a-new-player/503843/32 "2025-12-26T21:27:55Z")
> [@Tiger\_space\_Thedark](#): > > hello swing post alt number 650 Nah, he’s actually listening to and accepting feedback. Forum troll alts don’t do that. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/4/1/41ec4921cbaca7a6f9ea556e7cc20018461eae5e.png) [@system](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2026, 9:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/observations-made-as-a-new-player/503843/33 "2026-03-26T21:28:56Z")
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