# Observations on Pochven **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [November 2, 2020, 2:32am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/observations-on-pochven/277484 "2020-11-02T02:32:53Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 13\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2020, 12:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/observations-on-pochven/277484/62 "2020-11-17T12:34:35Z")
> [@Tipa\_Riot](#): > > the whole standing restriction would be pointless. It should be. Grind is unnecessary limitation for sandbox. ---
**Author:** ![Tipa\_Riot](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tipa_riot/32/443513_2.png) [@Tipa\_Riot](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tipa_Riot)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2020, 12:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/observations-on-pochven/277484/63 "2020-11-17T12:36:04Z")
Ahh, you want to pay cash for standing instead? ---
**Author:** ![God\_Emperor\_Kane](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/god_emperor_kane/32/399336_2.png) [@God\_Emperor\_Kane](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/God_Emperor_Kane)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2020, 12:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/observations-on-pochven/277484/64 "2020-11-17T12:36:58Z")
Correct, Until then though… To stay unmolested in highsec because of NPC’s I had to. The last thing I need is my highsec capital to be exploded because of some NPC. ---
**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2020, 12:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/observations-on-pochven/277484/65 "2020-11-17T12:37:06Z")
I want risk and reward to be the limiting factors, not amount of time someone grinds to get standings. ---
**Author:** ![Tipa\_Riot](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tipa_riot/32/443513_2.png) [@Tipa\_Riot](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tipa_Riot)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2020, 12:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/observations-on-pochven/277484/66 "2020-11-17T12:38:25Z")
It’s perfect risk vs. reward. Take more risk, less grind. ---
**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2020, 12:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/observations-on-pochven/277484/67 "2020-11-17T12:39:08Z")
> [@Tipa\_Riot](#): > > Take more risk, less grind. How? Do you know faster method of aquiring standings than grind that is now? That would be more reward. May be more risky. ---
**Author:** ![Tipa\_Riot](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tipa_riot/32/443513_2.png) [@Tipa\_Riot](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tipa_Riot)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2020, 12:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/observations-on-pochven/277484/68 "2020-11-17T12:46:23Z")
Not waiting for NPC to kill stuff for you, but kill the high value rats yourself. This is much faster of course. Which btw gives good loot/salvage on top. Thousands of EvE players are ratting daily for income, so I don’t see how this is different. The only point is, that you can’t get standing for cash like you can get sec status, but this would destroy a lot IMO. ---
**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2020, 12:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/observations-on-pochven/277484/69 "2020-11-17T12:52:35Z")
> [@Tipa\_Riot](#): > > Not waiting for NPC to kill stuff for you, but kill the high value rats yourself. This is much faster of course. Which btw gives good loot/salvage on top. Thousands of EvE players are ratting daily for income, so I don’t see how this is different. Loot from rogue drones and drifters? Is it really so valuable? BTW drifters dont look good as targets, they kill you easily, the battleships. CCP made them so they kill every ship they want by that superweapon. So killing drones is left in a fleet. Still, looking at other people, they spend too much time doing it. The definition of grind is that you make repetitive stuff all the time. Say no to grind. ---
**Author:** ![Tipa\_Riot](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tipa_riot/32/443513_2.png) [@Tipa\_Riot](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tipa_Riot)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2020, 1:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/observations-on-pochven/277484/70 "2020-11-17T13:27:54Z")
> [@Nana\_Skalski](#): > > Loot from rogue drones and drifters? Is it really so valuable? BTW drifters dont look good as targets, they kill you easily, the battleships. CCP made them so they kill every ship they want by that superweapon. So killing drones is left in a fleet. Sleepers and drifters, don’t bother with drones (only as a drive by). Yes, you can kill drifters easily except the BS. BS will wreck you, let them be killed by NPCs, focus on the cruisers. Sleepers are no real threat, even battleships unless they come in masses. This is solo … if you are in fleet, nothing is a threat if you use the right combo. ---
**Author:** ![March\_rabbit](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/march_rabbit/32/453160_2.png) [@March\_rabbit](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/March_rabbit)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2020, 6:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/observations-on-pochven/277484/71 "2020-11-17T18:44:23Z")
> [@Senyu\_Takashi](#): > > Here is a screenshot of a courier contract I completed using my blockade runner just a few minutes ago. Pickup = Pochven region, Drop off = Jita 4-4: Screenshot with reward of 15 mil ISK. > [@Senyu\_Takashi](#): > > 25m isk is definitely not a lucrative reward, if people are supposed to haul stuff around -1.0 systems, we are talking 100m ISK reward **minimum**. Not wanna to jump to argument but… ? ---
**Author:** ![Senyu\_Takashi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/senyu_takashi/32/213351_2.png) [@Senyu\_Takashi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Senyu_Takashi)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2020, 10:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/observations-on-pochven/277484/72 "2020-11-17T22:05:55Z")
It was a direct response to statement “you cannot complete courier contracts that involve Pochven region”. ---
**Author:** ![March\_rabbit](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/march_rabbit/32/453160_2.png) [@March\_rabbit](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/March_rabbit)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2020, 7:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/observations-on-pochven/277484/73 "2020-11-18T19:28:49Z")
My question is rather about payment. You’ve said that even 25 mil is not enough but then provided successful contract with 15 mil reward. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/4/1/41ec4921cbaca7a6f9ea556e7cc20018461eae5e.png) [@system](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2021, 7:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/observations-on-pochven/277484/74 "2021-02-16T19:28:59Z")
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