# October Release - Known Issues & Feedback (Mac) **URL:** \ **Category:** Mac OS\ **Tags:** feedback, release, issues\ **Created:** [October 8, 2019, 8:42am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/october-release-known-issues-feedback-mac/194420 "2019-10-08T08:42:49Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 15\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![CCP\_Falcon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ccp_falcon/32/143229_2.png) [@CCP\_Falcon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/CCP_Falcon)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2019, 8:42am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/october-release-known-issues-feedback-mac/194420/1 "2019-10-08T08:42:49Z")
![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/4/a/4ace616c6ccb9df247d91a95727c196c0e08a490.jpeg) Please use this thread for general feedback on the Mac client as well as discussing and reporting known issues on Mac. ## **Quick Info:** - [Full Patch Notes - EVE Online Website](https://www.eveonline.com/article/pyuth5/patch-notes-for-october-2019-release) ## **Other Information Threads:** - [General Feedback Thread](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/october-release-general-feedback/194417) - [Known Issues Thread](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/october-release-known-issues/194418) ## **Additional Release Information:** The October Release brings the new Mimesis implant set, along with improved contextual menus for cynosural fields and a whole host of New Player Experience and User Interface improvements. This release also includes a substantial number of fixes for gameplay, graphics and the user interface. ---
**Author:** ![Nothgar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nothgar/32/269315_2.png) [@Nothgar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nothgar)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2019, 12:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/october-release-known-issues-feedback-mac/194420/2 "2019-10-08T12:44:41Z")
Installed MacOS Catalina last night, now no more EvE. open launcher: launch group: add account to start up queue No game just looking at the launcher with a greyed out button. Launch group: error message: Game client start up for (A) has skipped, as a game client for this user is already running. 14:18: just had an update to the launcher and no change to the issue. however the game is not running I am still looking at the launcher. ---
**Author:** ![Igaze](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/igaze/32/346580_2.png) [@Igaze](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Igaze)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2019, 3:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/october-release-known-issues-feedback-mac/194420/3 "2019-10-08T15:10:21Z")
Yup. They warned about that yesterday: [UPDATE: Client Freeze Issues – MacOS 64-Bit Client](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/update-client-freeze-issues-macos-64-bit-client/194252) ---
**Author:** ![Vapor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vapor/32/356995_2.png) [@Vapor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vapor)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2019, 3:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/october-release-known-issues-feedback-mac/194420/4 "2019-10-08T15:28:27Z")
“All pilots should be aware that if they upgrade to Catalina (10.15), they will only be able to run the 64-bit version of the EVE Online client, which will prevent them from reverting to the 32-bit version if they experience this issue.” Message to all. Don’t upgrade to Catalina until the freeze issue is fully resolved ! ---
**Author:** ![CCPNarrative](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ccpnarrative/32/453072_2.png) [@CCPNarrative](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/CCPNarrative)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2019, 3:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/october-release-known-issues-feedback-mac/194420/5 "2019-10-08T15:35:13Z")
To help your situation you can go into the EVE Launcher, open Preferences - Wine Version - switch to Latest or wine-4.17. Also make sure you have “Run clients with 64 bit” enabled. ---
**Author:** ![Kingston\_Aumer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kingston_aumer/32/208993_2.png) [@Kingston\_Aumer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kingston_Aumer)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2019, 2:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/october-release-known-issues-feedback-mac/194420/6 "2019-10-10T14:16:43Z")
After upgrading to Mac OS Catalina, the middle slot modules are not activated using the alt / option + softkeys. Instead, they simply activate the top slot (function key only). Does anyone have such problems? You may know how to solve this problem. ---
**Author:** ![Max\_Singularity](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/max_singularity/32/475450_2.png) [@Max\_Singularity](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Max_Singularity)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2019, 2:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/october-release-known-issues-feedback-mac/194420/7 "2019-10-12T14:36:16Z")
I have EVE running on MacOS Catalina but it is limping graphics wise as the shader and textures are set down to medium. So far no crashes. But I still have the sub-windows black. Here is a video of all my settings… > ---
**Author:** ![Akasun](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/akasun/32/260238_2.png) [@Akasun](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Akasun)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2019, 4:53am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/october-release-known-issues-feedback-mac/194420/8 "2019-10-14T04:53:41Z")
Currently running Catalina. Anyone notice problems with the client just freezing at times now? Nothing actually crashes, and the client will sometimes recover. I’ve noticed this both in station and in space. I’m running in windowed mode, and it almost feels like I’ve lost input focus when this happens. ---
**Author:** ![Ovyx\_Tilleren](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ovyx_tilleren/32/351445_2.png) [@Ovyx\_Tilleren](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ovyx_Tilleren)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2019, 9:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/october-release-known-issues-feedback-mac/194420/9 "2019-10-21T21:50:47Z")
I just finished a client update and logged in to find I can’t toggle between screens. Tried different screen formats from fixed screen, windowed, and full screen but still not able to to go from eve client to say a browser window. I am currently running 10.12.6 on a macbook pro and using the 32 bit client as the 64 bit gives me a few errors that I can’t seem to fix. I use the 4 finger swipe up on my track pad to switch between open screens. ---
**Author:** ![Bitter\_Fremlin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bitter_fremlin/32/169107_2.png) [@Bitter\_Fremlin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Bitter_Fremlin)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2019, 7:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/october-release-known-issues-feedback-mac/194420/10 "2019-10-23T19:31:45Z")
No solution to the Alt/Option key problem, but just to add that this happens in High Sierra as well. So not a Catalina-only thing – perhaps the Wine update? ---
**Author:** ![Swans](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/swans/32/508821_2.png) [@Swans](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Swans)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2019, 11:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/october-release-known-issues-feedback-mac/194420/11 "2019-10-25T23:12:14Z")
unfortunately would to inform what last changes complicate to play because changes affect hotkeys. For example: CMD+A used to select all, but now it open character window and I cant change this hot keys. So I stop subscribe 3 account. Please feel free to contact me if you bring back hot keys on mac or allow to change it ---
**Author:** ![Amarisen\_Gream](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/amarisen_gream/32/296747_2.png) [@Amarisen\_Gream](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Amarisen_Gream)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2019, 7:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/october-release-known-issues-feedback-mac/194420/12 "2019-10-26T19:06:44Z")
This isn’t a CCP thing. It is a wine thing. If CCP did, it would increase the complexity of eve again and just lead to more errors (which never seem to leave anyway) All you have to do is get your brain to just use windows hotkeys in eve. A little practice and you can do it. ---
**Author:** ![Swans](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/swans/32/508821_2.png) [@Swans](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Swans)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2019, 10:00am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/october-release-known-issues-feedback-mac/194420/13 "2019-10-27T10:00:48Z")
I found it. Hotkeys on Mac don’t work because of native wine support. > [@64-bit Mac Client, Wine, and YOU](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/64-bit-mac-client-wine-and-you/143274/16): > > Hey @Xaviar_Onassis and @Vincent_Athena, here’s the best walk through I can offer. Will clarify if anything isn’t immediately grokkable, though. Just ask: You can see what the mappings would be right now by choosing “winehq-master” as the dev branch and “Latest” as the wine version in the Preferences menu of the EVE Launcher (accessed through the menu bar, not the Launcher settings cog). We can’t 100% claim that winehq-master will always have the same keybindings (we don’t maintain winehq-… so sad( ---
**Author:** ![Kemy\_Munchkin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kemy_munchkin/32/292915_2.png) [@Kemy\_Munchkin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kemy_Munchkin)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2019, 6:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/october-release-known-issues-feedback-mac/194420/14 "2019-10-30T18:50:49Z")
winehq-master has native support to map option / command keys to alt/ctrl; see [post #52 from thread ‘64-bit Mac Client, Wine, and YOU’](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/64-bit-mac-client-wine-and-you/143274/52) ---
**Author:** ![CCP\_Falcon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ccp_falcon/32/143229_2.png) [@CCP\_Falcon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/CCP_Falcon)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2020, 6:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/october-release-known-issues-feedback-mac/194420/15 "2020-01-28T18:50:49Z")
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