# Off-Topic Thread vol. 2

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/off-topic-thread-vol-2/171718>\
**Category:** Intergalactic Summit\
**Created:** [July 4, 2019, 2:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/off-topic-thread-vol-2/171718 "2019-07-04T14:24:46Z")\
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**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2019, 2:51am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/off-topic-thread-vol-2/171718/1291 "2019-11-19T02:51:37Z")

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Moving this here because it is, after all, off-topic, and I don’t want to derail the other any more than we have…

> [@Tribal Tournament! Cruiser Chaos YC121 - Thursday 5th December 2019](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/tribal-tournament-cruiser-chaos-yc121-thursday-5th-december-2019/201398/13):
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> I have no incredulity regarding people’s general avarice. Our peers typically being even worse.

You may misunderstand me slightly, if this is what you took from that. Avarice is not a factor. It doesn’t matter _what_ they seek advantage in. Is it for money? Love? Basic survival needs? To advance an ideology? Whatever the goal, whatever the motivation, if you offer human beings more than a single way to get it, then in general, they will choose the way that best provides for a confluence of laziness, avoidance of personal responsibility, and the opportunity to feel powerful or clever at others’ expense.

It’s as true of cheating in tournaments as it is of politics or religion.

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