# Off-Topic Thread vol. 2

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/off-topic-thread-vol-2/171718>\
**Category:** Intergalactic Summit\
**Created:** [July 4, 2019, 2:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/off-topic-thread-vol-2/171718 "2019-07-04T14:24:46Z")\
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**Author:** ![Samira\_Kernher](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/samira_kernher/32/244840_2.png) [@Samira\_Kernher](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Samira_Kernher)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2019, 12:50am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/off-topic-thread-vol-2/171718/1761 "2019-12-13T00:50:57Z")

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> [@Aria\_Jenneth](#):
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> What do you think of Samira’s counterfactual where the Empire goes around conquering people without enslaving anyone? … It seems … well. Like if she wants it to be effective it ends in something like slavery anyway?

> [@Arrendis](#):
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> And if they are… then yes, that’s still slavery in all but name.

> [@Aria\_Jenneth](#):
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> @Samira_Kernher - thoughts?

There is a considerable leap from conquering and encouraging the assimilation of our culture, and slavery. Saying it’s ‘slavery in all but name’ is ignoring the things that make slavery what it is – namely, the lack of protections for the slaves, and the carte blanche for the Holders to abuse as they will.

Of course assimilation without slavery would cause plenty of problems on its own, but equating it with slavery is misunderstanding the main issues of slavery.

I’ve discussed this topic in the ‘A Beacon, Not a Scourge’ section of [CAVTT’s manifesto](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/cavtt-the-test-of-faith/193415).

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