# Off-Topic Thread vol. 2 **URL:** \ **Category:** Intergalactic Summit\ **Created:** [July 4, 2019, 2:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/off-topic-thread-vol-2/171718 "2019-07-04T14:24:46Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 1990
**Author:** ![Elsebeth\_Rhiannon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/elsebeth_rhiannon/32/418836_2.png) [@Elsebeth\_Rhiannon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Elsebeth_Rhiannon)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2020, 11:18am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/off-topic-thread-vol-2/171718/1990 "2020-01-17T11:18:04Z")
> [@Horrors and Reprisals in Floseswin as situation stablises](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/horrors-and-reprisals-in-floseswin-as-situation-stablises/211135/28): > > Just copies, all of us. Even if you disregard the metaphysical - if I count the number of people who are still around from the original squad I started with, there’s two of us (myself and LaFond). Some of the folks who have left space are still alive, of course - but many of them _will not be_, eventually, having opted to go back to baseline. And a lot of them are dead - suicides, clone failures, deaths on stations without soft clones, neurodegenerative diseases, and some shady ■■■■ strictly on the list of things we are not talking about. Capsuleers die. They die _all the time_. Before the Sundsele attacks, it was true that I had, in a decade, lost more capsuleer friends than I had baseliner kin. The “immortality” is an illusion, a recruiter marketing scam. --- _[View the full topic](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/off-topic-thread-vol-2/171718)._