# Off-Topic Thread vol. 2 **URL:** \ **Category:** Intergalactic Summit\ **Created:** [July 4, 2019, 2:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/off-topic-thread-vol-2/171718 "2019-07-04T14:24:46Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 2830
**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2020, 5:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/off-topic-thread-vol-2/171718/2830 "2020-11-18T17:42:48Z")
> [@Solved: The Purpose of the Minmatar People](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/solved-the-purpose-of-the-minmatar-people/278988/85): > > Something obviously went badly wrong. Exactly what, remains to be seen, but it won’t have been anything quite so stupid. A **lot** went wrong. Top to bottom, though, it _absolutely_ comes down to ‘stupid’. The Caldari Navy took the worst of it, but all four empires were absolute _idiots_ in their anti-invasion forces. And EDENCOM (the official arm of CONCORD, not EDI) was even stupider for _letting_ them be that stupid. The Amarr made a big deal (_after_ totality, I’ll note) about having to put one of their capital groups in for repairs, but really, other than that _press release_, there’s no sign of significant capital usage. But let’s set that aside for now. Did anyone see any advanced hulls among the EDENCOM forces? Did the Imperial Navy’s detachment field any Damnations? Zealots? Guardians? Did the Republic put even a single Muninn or Huginn into the fight? Were there Rooks and Eagles and Cerbs, or just Blackbirds, Moas, and Caracals? I know what _I_ saw in those systems, and it wasn’t the kind of top-of-the-line ship deployment I’d expect from literally the four wealthiest powers in the cluster. Facing invasion from an enemy with advanced technology, hell-bent on taking control of entire star systems full of citizens, not _one_ of the navies saw fit to unleash their naval capsuleers in T2 hulls. A single Caldari Navy group of 30 Eagles with Basilisk support could have shredded anything the Trigs, the Kybers, or Nullsec was using in those systems. But we didn’t see one. We didn’t see _anything_ other than bog-standard, lowest-common-denominator, ‘this crap wouldn’t even pass muster patrolling the Jita/Perimeter gate’ deployments. From _anyone_. Yeah. Stupidity. S’a good word for it. Or ‘incompetence’. Maybe ‘gross negligence’, but that’s 2 words. --- _[View the full topic](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/off-topic-thread-vol-2/171718)._