# Off-Topic Thread vol. 2 **URL:** \ **Category:** Intergalactic Summit\ **Created:** [July 4, 2019, 2:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/off-topic-thread-vol-2/171718 "2019-07-04T14:24:46Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 5292
**Author:** ![Elsebeth\_Rhiannon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/elsebeth_rhiannon/32/418836_2.png) [@Elsebeth\_Rhiannon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Elsebeth_Rhiannon)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2022, 7:42am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/off-topic-thread-vol-2/171718/5292 "2022-06-17T07:42:01Z")
> [@The Liberation of Athounon](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-liberation-of-athounon/361662/91): > > You are practically citing the goal of my actions, Mr. Faran. Jaijii have no say in loyalty of Cmdr. Remilia. That’s for Caldari Navy, CEP, or at least her kirjuun from the Protectorate to decide. And in order to free the discussion from offenses of these hateful personalities (you can see the degree of their hostility by replies like that: [Galnet board snap image](https://i.imgur.com/1y9ZqKt.png)), I am bringing that to be solved in space by violence rather than watching bile spitting into each other face on forums, which was initiated by two LUMEN members and who clearly have refused to cease and desist. Listen, either they _have_ a say, and you must make them say the right things, or the _do not_ have a say, in which case they can say whatever and it won’t matter. Which one is it? --- _[View the full topic](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/off-topic-thread-vol-2/171718)._