# Official chat room for off-topic, banter and non-eve related chats **URL:** \ **Category:** Player Features & Ideas\ **Created:** [March 25, 2022, 7:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/official-chat-room-for-off-topic-banter-and-non-eve-related-chats/355366 "2022-03-25T19:22:47Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Nagsor\_Liacz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nagsor_liacz/32/313452_2.png) [@Nagsor\_Liacz](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nagsor_Liacz)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2022, 7:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/official-chat-room-for-off-topic-banter-and-non-eve-related-chats/355366/1 "2022-03-25T19:22:48Z")
Dear Capsuleers and CCP tl;dr: at the bottom. As most people probably know, Mining chat does not exactly have the best reputation. This is due to multiple reasons: 1. It was unmoderated for years and therefore the go-to place for off topic chats and banter 2. People who break the TOS/EULA would usually do it right there with no one trying to interfere (e.g. racism, sexism, violence) This resulted in a toxic environment that got abused by people to spread ideologies and write other stuff that should not be written in this game. It derailed the channel, that is perfectly clear after all this time. While I said what I just said, it is also noteworthy that people who break the TOS/EULA were NOT the majority of people. Most just wanted to talk about non-eve related stuff, we are all humans after all. (I will also not paint myself as a Saint here, because I have been talking about drugs I did when I was younger for example.) After all these years, ISDs finally showed up and started to clean this place, which is not a bad thing in itself. The problem is, that people who just want to talk have nowhere to go since the ISDs also wanted to enforce the general topic of this channel. Now, we have tried creating discord servers and private channels. They all died out because of ingame politics between players or just sheer inconvenience (also, watching local as a miner and also writing on a discord server in another window can be dangerous, inviting everyone to a private channel has proven to be impossible. They all just died within the day.) Why the current situation does not work out: - ISDs are being forced to kill any discussion that isnt Mining related, resulting in anger that gets directed to said ISDs - Mining inhabitants who have been using this chat for banter have nowhere to go, resulting in them just staying there and waiting for the ISDs to vanish so they can keep talking What we need and want: - An official chat room IN GAME - Off-topic discussion must strictly be allowed - It has to be moderated according to EULA/TOS - Again, ordinary discussions about the cake I ate the other day must be allowed How this would benefit the game: - Mining chat should slowly but surely become a place for mining discussion again, without the disgusting 1%, off-topic and other things that might hurt the channel - People that just want to write while sitting on rocks or in stations all day will have a place to go - ISDs will hopefully have less work because we will want to keep our new channel and will report bad actors So, tl;dr: We need a general moderated and official chat room for everything that isnt eve related and more. The only thing that should not be allowed there is anything in conflict with TOS/EULA. Again: playermade channels won’t work, it needs to be official to curb what you are trying to curb. Just ask yourself: Where do you go if you want to talk to strangers about whatever is on your mind? It is clear that CCP is not happy with what was happening in Mining chat, which is 100% justified, the current “solution” is just not really solving anything. It’s putting a band aid on a flesh wound. You are not keeping in mind that this chat has formed its own community (Ignore the 1% for once) and has been engaging with each other for almost 10 years probably. The chat does not feel like it is being moderated, the chat feels like it is being killed and that is why nobody wants to behave and accept what is happening. Fly safe and please forgive my bad English skills, Nagsor Liacz ---
**Author:** ![Orclev](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/orclev/32/313453_2.png) [@Orclev](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Orclev)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2022, 7:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/official-chat-room-for-off-topic-banter-and-non-eve-related-chats/355366/2 "2022-03-25T19:27:04Z")
Bump this so hard, it will think it’s a miner. ---
**Author:** ![Remi\_Lacroix](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/remi_lacroix/32/494680_2.png) [@Remi\_Lacroix](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Remi_Lacroix)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2022, 7:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/official-chat-room-for-off-topic-banter-and-non-eve-related-chats/355366/3 "2022-03-25T19:27:07Z")
Mining chat is where you go to make human connections outside of a corp. It’s kept people playing eve, and helped people get through tough time irl. The rep it has is earned, but it’s not as bad as it’s made out to be. That being said, if ccp wants to squash it, we need another channel. Player channels are subject to player bias and moods. official channels arent. I’ve seen it suggested that we all go to discord, but why? EvE is about community, and community shouldn’t be pushed out of the game into 3rd party services. ---
**Author:** ![Ishamael\_Darkstar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ishamael_darkstar/32/311824_2.png) [@Ishamael\_Darkstar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ishamael_Darkstar)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2022, 7:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/official-chat-room-for-off-topic-banter-and-non-eve-related-chats/355366/4 "2022-03-25T19:27:28Z")
+1 to this. ---
**Author:** ![Kenrailae](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kenrailae/32/494205_2.png) [@Kenrailae](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kenrailae)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2022, 7:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/official-chat-room-for-off-topic-banter-and-non-eve-related-chats/355366/5 "2022-03-25T19:29:20Z")
> [@Nagsor\_Liacz](#): > > It’s putting a band aid on a flesh wound. This is CCP’s MO. I see no reason it should be any different for in game chat channels. ---
**Author:** ![Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/geo_eclipse_oksaras/32/500781_2.png) [@Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Geo_Eclipse_Oksaras)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2022, 7:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/official-chat-room-for-off-topic-banter-and-non-eve-related-chats/355366/6 "2022-03-25T19:30:19Z")
there’s already a discussion on this, why create another thread for no reason. ---
**Author:** ![Remi\_Lacroix](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/remi_lacroix/32/494680_2.png) [@Remi\_Lacroix](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Remi_Lacroix)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2022, 7:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/official-chat-room-for-off-topic-banter-and-non-eve-related-chats/355366/7 "2022-03-25T19:31:04Z")
Because we’ve been talking to isd’s and it was suggested that this post be made. ---
**Author:** ![Orclev](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/orclev/32/313453_2.png) [@Orclev](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Orclev)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2022, 7:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/official-chat-room-for-off-topic-banter-and-non-eve-related-chats/355366/8 "2022-03-25T19:33:35Z")
Even if there was another player made channel for off topic chatter, how on earth would anyone find it? There are populated and active player channels that are public, but you can’t find them unless you literally know they are there already. I stumbled into Mining and never left. Like literally. I’d happily accept an alternative, but I’m not getting anywhere punching random phrases into the “join channel” feature. ---
**Author:** ![Orclev](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/orclev/32/313453_2.png) [@Orclev](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Orclev)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2022, 7:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/official-chat-room-for-off-topic-banter-and-non-eve-related-chats/355366/9 "2022-03-25T19:34:14Z")
Emphasis. ---
**Author:** ![Nagsor\_Liacz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nagsor_liacz/32/313452_2.png) [@Nagsor\_Liacz](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nagsor_Liacz)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2022, 7:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/official-chat-room-for-off-topic-banter-and-non-eve-related-chats/355366/10 "2022-03-25T19:53:15Z")
Yes, this should have happened a long time ago in my humble opinion, as it would probably help ISDs, Users and CCP alike. Pressing the finger into this wound is important. ---
**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2022, 10:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/official-chat-room-for-off-topic-banter-and-non-eve-related-chats/355366/11 "2022-03-25T22:15:24Z")
Another moderated chat channel? People really want this? SMH. I just don’t understand. ---
**Author:** ![Nagsor\_Liacz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nagsor_liacz/32/313452_2.png) [@Nagsor\_Liacz](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nagsor_Liacz)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2022, 1:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/official-chat-room-for-off-topic-banter-and-non-eve-related-chats/355366/12 "2022-03-26T13:05:18Z")
I did explain it in detail, so I don’t understand your lack of understanding. ---
**Author:** ![sumguy421](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sumguy421/32/313112_2.png) [@sumguy421](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/sumguy421)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2022, 4:56am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/official-chat-room-for-off-topic-banter-and-non-eve-related-chats/355366/13 "2022-03-23T04:56:59Z")
i want a place for people to be able to chat about everything and anything so i made one. It is called… The General Chat Room i am making this because i keep trying to chat in the help channels which is not allowed so this is the solution lol all are welcome ---
**Author:** ![Emiza\_Mahyisti](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/emiza_mahyisti/32/326651_2.png) [@Emiza\_Mahyisti](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Emiza_Mahyisti)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2022, 1:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/official-chat-room-for-off-topic-banter-and-non-eve-related-chats/355366/14 "2022-03-24T13:43:29Z")
I will look out for it when I log in tonight. The ISDs keep telling me to “stick to Q & A please” and no one goes to the Watercooler channel. ---
**Author:** ![Aisha\_Katalen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aisha_katalen/32/387724_2.png) [@Aisha\_Katalen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aisha_Katalen)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2022, 3:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/official-chat-room-for-off-topic-banter-and-non-eve-related-chats/355366/15 "2022-03-24T15:16:09Z")
That is because the help channels are there for people to get help, folks just doing random chats impedes with that making it more difficult for newbies to ask for help but also for helpers to read it all and offer help. Doing random chatting/trolling in official help channel is selfish AF. ---
**Author:** ![Emiza\_Mahyisti](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/emiza_mahyisti/32/326651_2.png) [@Emiza\_Mahyisti](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Emiza_Mahyisti)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2022, 4:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/official-chat-room-for-off-topic-banter-and-non-eve-related-chats/355366/16 "2022-03-24T16:36:29Z")
I never justified trolling and my “random chatting” as you put it is kept to a minimum. If you are a regular in Rookiechat like I am, you might have noticed I spend more time both asking questions and helping answer questions asked by others. Just to set the record straight. ---
**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2022, 4:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/official-chat-room-for-off-topic-banter-and-non-eve-related-chats/355366/17 "2022-03-24T16:38:57Z")
> [@sumguy421](#): > > i want a place for people to be able to chat about everything and anything You mean things like…why isn’t Minimum Target Range displayed on the spaceship HUD ? Can’t believe it’s the 230th century and Captain Kirk has to put his minimum target range on a post-it note on the console. ---
**Author:** ![Emiza\_Mahyisti](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/emiza_mahyisti/32/326651_2.png) [@Emiza\_Mahyisti](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Emiza_Mahyisti)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2022, 4:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/official-chat-room-for-off-topic-banter-and-non-eve-related-chats/355366/18 "2022-03-24T16:40:41Z")
> [@Altara\_Zemara](#): > > why isn’t Minimum Target Range displayed on the spaceship HUD That is a pretty good idea. If you haven’t already done so, I’d suggest putting that in the features requested forum. ---
**Author:** ![Aisha\_Katalen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aisha_katalen/32/387724_2.png) [@Aisha\_Katalen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aisha_Katalen)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2022, 4:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/official-chat-room-for-off-topic-banter-and-non-eve-related-chats/355366/19 "2022-03-24T16:51:41Z")
> [@Emiza\_Mahyisti](#): > > If you are a regular in Rookiechat like I am You’re not. Also this wouldn’t happen > [@Emiza\_Mahyisti](#): > > The ISDs keep telling me to “stick to Q & A please” if > [@Emiza\_Mahyisti](#): > > is kept to a minimum ---
**Author:** ![Emotional\_Support\_Clown](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/emotional_support_clown/32/310422_2.png) [@Emotional\_Support\_Clown](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Emotional_Support_Clown)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2022, 4:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/official-chat-room-for-off-topic-banter-and-non-eve-related-chats/355366/20 "2022-03-24T16:53:57Z")
> [@Altara\_Zemara](#): > > Can’t believe it’s the 230th century and Captain Kirk has to put his minimum target range on a post-it note on the console. ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/4/3/9/43908d026171ab31fc292b4622edd350d3f4d50a.jpeg) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/official-chat-room-for-off-topic-banter-and-non-eve-related-chats/355366.md?page=2)