# Official chat room for off-topic, banter and non-eve related chats

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/official-chat-room-for-off-topic-banter-and-non-eve-related-chats/355366>\
**Category:** Player Features & Ideas\
**Created:** [March 25, 2022, 7:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/official-chat-room-for-off-topic-banter-and-non-eve-related-chats/355366 "2022-03-25T19:22:47Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/geo_eclipse_oksaras/32/500781_2.png) [@Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Geo_Eclipse_Oksaras)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2022, 5:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/official-chat-room-for-off-topic-banter-and-non-eve-related-chats/355366/21 "2022-03-24T17:09:49Z")

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A lot of questions that tend to get asked that i see, are questions “rookies” dont need to be asking. Like why cant i use a capital in hisec? A rookie wouldnt be flying a cap to begin with

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**Author:** ![Aisha\_Katalen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aisha_katalen/32/387724_2.png) [@Aisha\_Katalen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aisha_Katalen)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2022, 5:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/official-chat-room-for-off-topic-banter-and-non-eve-related-chats/355366/22 "2022-03-24T17:15:50Z")

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The vast majority of “newbies” are alts pretending to be new but since people aren’t as clever as they think they are they come up with “newbie question” no actual newbie would ask or know about. All kinds of obvious and leading questions which are easy giveaways.

Real newbies (or perhaps alts that ARE clever) ask very different questions.

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**Author:** ![Aisha\_Katalen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aisha_katalen/32/387724_2.png) [@Aisha\_Katalen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aisha_Katalen)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2022, 5:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/official-chat-room-for-off-topic-banter-and-non-eve-related-chats/355366/23 "2022-03-24T17:17:24Z")

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There is no minimum targeting range. I’m going to assume you’re talking about minimum warp target range.

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**Author:** ![Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/geo_eclipse_oksaras/32/500781_2.png) [@Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Geo_Eclipse_Oksaras)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2022, 5:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/official-chat-room-for-off-topic-banter-and-non-eve-related-chats/355366/24 "2022-03-24T17:18:03Z")

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Oh i know, i can tell by some of the questions. But the point i was making ISDs try to limit it to questions actual newbs will ask. Even i been “reprimanded” for going off topic

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**Author:** ![Aisha\_Katalen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aisha_katalen/32/387724_2.png) [@Aisha\_Katalen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aisha_Katalen)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2022, 5:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/official-chat-room-for-off-topic-banter-and-non-eve-related-chats/355366/25 "2022-03-24T17:22:37Z")

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Oh yeah, same here. For most people it happens just not very often and in that case it’s not an issue, sometimes you just end up on a tangent especially when it’s kinda quiet.

It’s just that some people produce more noise than signal and those get told off by ISD a lot. Me personally I tend to be direct and possibly blunt, not always good either.

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**Author:** ![Emotional\_Support\_Clown](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/emotional_support_clown/32/310422_2.png) [@Emotional\_Support\_Clown](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Emotional_Support_Clown)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2022, 5:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/official-chat-room-for-off-topic-banter-and-non-eve-related-chats/355366/26 "2022-03-24T17:24:48Z")

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Maximum is the new mininum.

Up is down. Down is up.

Tactical HUD is the answer.

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**Author:** ![Aisha\_Katalen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aisha_katalen/32/387724_2.png) [@Aisha\_Katalen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aisha_Katalen)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2022, 5:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/official-chat-room-for-off-topic-banter-and-non-eve-related-chats/355366/27 "2022-03-24T17:26:22Z")

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I was going to assume that being new one wouldn’t know about and understand the concept of in game minimum warp distance, I was looking at it from the positive side.

It turns out the issue is about not understanding the difference between the real life concepts of minimum and maximum. That’s… worse.

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**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2022, 5:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/official-chat-room-for-off-topic-banter-and-non-eve-related-chats/355366/28 "2022-03-24T17:30:17Z")

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Sheesh…do you practice being paranoid about who is ‘new’, or does it just come naturally ?

This is a HELP forum. Try…erm…helping !

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**Author:** ![Aisha\_Katalen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aisha_katalen/32/387724_2.png) [@Aisha\_Katalen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aisha_Katalen)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2022, 5:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/official-chat-room-for-off-topic-banter-and-non-eve-related-chats/355366/29 "2022-03-24T17:35:25Z")

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This isn’t a help forum, it’s a discussion forum.

Besides that I think it’s safe to say that one could and should assume people understand the difference between minimum and maximum so when someone states something like you did the logical reaction would be to assume it’s the in-game concept you don’t understand (which is completely fine, if one is new).

Turns out I was too optimistic.

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**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2022, 5:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/official-chat-room-for-off-topic-banter-and-non-eve-related-chats/355366/30 "2022-03-24T17:40:44Z")

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> [@Aisha\_Katalen](#):
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> Besides that I think it’s safe to say that one could and should assume people understand the difference between minimum and maximum so when someone states something like you did the logical reaction would be to assume it’s the in-game concept you don’t understand (which is completely fine, if one is new).

I’ve no idea what you are babbling about. I specifically referenced the Targeting Range…which you denied even existed. You were the one who went off on some totally irrelevant ramble about warping.

Look…the thing you claim does not exist…

You might see it more often if you actually played Eve rather than being here.

 ![min_target_range](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/8/7/6/8767da547ceab2e0757a67b2921d8245044295d7.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![Aisha\_Katalen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aisha_katalen/32/387724_2.png) [@Aisha\_Katalen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aisha_Katalen)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2022, 5:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/official-chat-room-for-off-topic-banter-and-non-eve-related-chats/355366/31 "2022-03-24T17:44:03Z")

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You can’t be this stupid.

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**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2022, 5:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/official-chat-room-for-off-topic-banter-and-non-eve-related-chats/355366/32 "2022-03-24T17:47:40Z")

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Whether it is min or max…its not on the HUD…which was my original point. The fact that I simply called it min by mistake does not alter that point.

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**Author:** ![Aisha\_Katalen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aisha_katalen/32/387724_2.png) [@Aisha\_Katalen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aisha_Katalen)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2022, 5:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/official-chat-room-for-off-topic-banter-and-non-eve-related-chats/355366/33 "2022-03-24T17:52:28Z")

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It’s a bit of a difference 🙂 But with that out of the way it does show max targeting distance on the tactical hud together with a whole lot of other useful info.

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**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2022, 5:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/official-chat-room-for-off-topic-banter-and-non-eve-related-chats/355366/34 "2022-03-24T17:56:04Z")

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> [@Aisha\_Katalen](#):
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> But with that out of the way it does show max targeting distance on the tactical hud together with a whole lot of other useful info.

Where ? Each turret shows falloff range and so on…but that’s not really the same thing.

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**Author:** ![Aisha\_Katalen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aisha_katalen/32/387724_2.png) [@Aisha\_Katalen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aisha_Katalen)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2022, 5:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/official-chat-room-for-off-topic-banter-and-non-eve-related-chats/355366/35 "2022-03-24T17:59:06Z")

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if you enable tactical overlay, button left of the HUD, it will show various stuff one of which is max targeting range (red dotted circle) and if you mouse over range modules it will also show their range. It’s not really THAT useful though as you will mostly use the overview for things.

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**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2022, 6:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/official-chat-room-for-off-topic-banter-and-non-eve-related-chats/355366/36 "2022-03-24T18:08:45Z")

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Hmm…yes I have seen that, but its not really the same as what I am after. It would be handy if the max target range simply appeared as part of the data that appears when you hover the cursor over the turrets. That way it is easily there whatever mode I am in.

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**Author:** ![Aisha\_Katalen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aisha_katalen/32/387724_2.png) [@Aisha\_Katalen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aisha_Katalen)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2022, 6:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/official-chat-room-for-off-topic-banter-and-non-eve-related-chats/355366/37 "2022-03-24T18:11:45Z")

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If you hover over turrets it gives you turret info, not ship info. Turret stats aren’t ship stats. If you want to know targeting range you find that in the fitting window or when you try to target something and it’s out of range, then it’ll tell you max range. Once you know this you don’t need to be reminded of it every 3 seconds.

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**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2022, 6:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/official-chat-room-for-off-topic-banter-and-non-eve-related-chats/355366/38 "2022-03-24T18:23:55Z")

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I notice that missiles will still fire anyway if you hit F1 before locking, as long as you are within the weapon cycle. Or something like that. I found this quite by accident…its not something I see mentioned in an tutorials.

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**Author:** ![Aisha\_Katalen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aisha_katalen/32/387724_2.png) [@Aisha\_Katalen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aisha_Katalen)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2022, 6:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/official-chat-room-for-off-topic-banter-and-non-eve-related-chats/355366/39 "2022-03-24T18:33:32Z")

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No they don’t, unless they are auto targeting missiles which aren’t affected by locks but rather by something attacking you.

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**Author:** ![Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/geo_eclipse_oksaras/32/500781_2.png) [@Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Geo_Eclipse_Oksaras)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2022, 7:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/official-chat-room-for-off-topic-banter-and-non-eve-related-chats/355366/40 "2022-03-24T19:45:10Z")

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When you are so used to sitting in the same ship you learn what the max targeting range of a ship is, you become accustomed to it. So when i get in my raven or my drake, i know where my range is, especially if i try to lock a target and it wont lock

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