# Oh my stars and garders!

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/oh-my-stars-and-garders/69333>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [April 12, 2018, 11:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/oh-my-stars-and-garders/69333 "2018-04-12T23:21:39Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 18\
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**Author:** ![Ima\_Wreckyou](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ima_wreckyou/32/235531_2.png) [@Ima\_Wreckyou](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ima_Wreckyou)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2018, 10:42am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/oh-my-stars-and-garders/69333/21 "2018-04-13T10:42:40Z")

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You seem salty. How about you join them. May actually learn to play the game whil at it.

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**Author:** ![Sindara\_T\_Soni](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sindara_t_soni/32/242945_2.png) [@Sindara\_T\_Soni](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sindara_T_Soni)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2018, 10:44am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/oh-my-stars-and-garders/69333/22 "2018-04-13T10:44:27Z")

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> [@Ima\_Wreckyou](#):
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> Chance based crafting? Seriously? I really don’t like the sound of that

Same here. Was the first thing that made me cringe as I watched the announcements.

One of the (many) things that stops me going back to WoW is the over complexity of levelling up a character these days, with endless variations on socketing and jewel crafting and gem empowering / levelling. The endless focus on adding more and more grindy ways to alter your stats as an excuse for new ‘content’.

While EVE is complicated in many ways, I think it’s complicated in the right ways at the moment. Throwing RNG into ship stats is not the right way imo.

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**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2018, 10:45am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/oh-my-stars-and-garders/69333/23 "2018-04-13T10:45:29Z")

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> [@Sindara\_T\_Soni](#):
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> Throwing RNG into ship stats is not the right way imo.

Agreed. At least polarized weapons are consistent.

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**Author:** ![Chewytowel\_Haklar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/chewytowel_haklar/32/420292_2.png) [@Chewytowel\_Haklar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Chewytowel_Haklar)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2018, 5:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/oh-my-stars-and-garders/69333/24 "2018-04-13T17:41:51Z")

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I wonder if this works with warp core stabs. jk jk 😃

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**Author:** ![Ivan\_Bloodguard](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ivan_bloodguard/32/49954_2.png) [@Ivan\_Bloodguard](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ivan_Bloodguard)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2018, 5:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/oh-my-stars-and-garders/69333/25 "2018-04-13T17:46:40Z")

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What are garders?

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**Author:** ![Solstice\_Projekt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solstice_projekt/32/503293_2.png) [@Solstice\_Projekt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solstice_Projekt)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2018, 6:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/oh-my-stars-and-garders/69333/26 "2018-04-13T18:27:59Z")

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> [@Vortexo\_VonBrenner](#):
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> You play Warframe? Cool. o7Tenno

> [@Ralph\_King-Griffin](#):
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> yeah its been fun.
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> space ninja with a big fecking hammer , yes, just yes.

o7 Tenno

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**Author:** ![Ag3nt\_Jita](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ag3nt_jita/32/48115_2.png) [@Ag3nt\_Jita](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ag3nt_Jita)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2018, 6:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/oh-my-stars-and-garders/69333/28 "2018-04-13T18:39:13Z")

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> [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#):
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> Player NS will get even richer and more powerful.

> [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#):
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> Player NS can now lolfarm these pockets for even greater wealth.

You can attack them 😉

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**Author:** ![Beast\_of\_Revelations](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/beast_of_revelations/32/413187_2.png) [@Beast\_of\_Revelations](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Beast_of_Revelations)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2018, 6:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/oh-my-stars-and-garders/69333/29 "2018-04-13T18:45:46Z")

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> [@LouHodo](#):
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> Because once wasn’t enough he had to say it twice.

Maybe he’s “Jimmy Two Times” from Goodfellas.

[![]( " - YouTube") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXUgLqsdZvI&t=35s)

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**Author:** ![Mr\_Epeen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mr_epeen/32/373308_2.png) [@Mr\_Epeen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mr_Epeen)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2018, 7:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/oh-my-stars-and-garders/69333/30 "2018-04-13T19:43:25Z")

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> [@Ivan\_Bloodguard](#):
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> What are garders?

Gardens? Garters?

vOv

Mr Epeen 🕶

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**Author:** ![Lugues\_Slive](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lugues_slive/32/454530_2.png) [@Lugues\_Slive](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lugues_Slive)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2018, 8:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/oh-my-stars-and-garders/69333/31 "2018-04-13T20:21:53Z")

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If they make abyssal weapons, will you still be able to group weapons?

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**Author:** ![xxxTRUSTxxx](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xxxtrustxxx/32/285949_2.png) [@xxxTRUSTxxx](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/xxxTRUSTxxx)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2018, 8:42am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/oh-my-stars-and-garders/69333/32 "2018-04-14T08:42:33Z")

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> [@Sebat\_Hadah](#):
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> pits players against a deadly alien race

pc gamer is full of shite, CCP said they are human in origin. not alien lol

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**Author:** ![Dark\_Engraver](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dark_engraver/32/45178_2.png) [@Dark\_Engraver](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dark_Engraver)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2018, 9:02am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/oh-my-stars-and-garders/69333/33 "2018-04-14T09:02:14Z")

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But…

What if they’re cannibals?Space cannibals?Errrr…

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**Author:** ![DeMichael\_Crimson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/demichael_crimson/32/514115_2.png) [@DeMichael\_Crimson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DeMichael_Crimson)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2018, 11:29am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/oh-my-stars-and-garders/69333/34 "2018-04-14T11:29:57Z")

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> [@LouHodo](#):
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> > [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#):
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> > Player NS can now lolfarm these pockets for even greater wealth.
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> > [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#):
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> > Player NS will get even richer and more powerful.
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> Because once wasn’t enough he had to say it twice.
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> And again this sounds like a high sec noob scared of low and null.  
> [Minmatar Citizen 94200397 | Character | zKillboard](https://zkillboard.com/character/94200397/)  
> Yep I am right.
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> There is more to EVE than mission farming.

Dude, there’s a lot more to eve than just trying to epeen impress others with a damn zkillboard record.

By the way, it’s against forum rules to post killboard records with the intention of humiliating someone.  
[https://community.eveonline.com/support/policies/forum-moderation-policy-en/](https://community.eveonline.com/support/policies/forum-moderation-policy-en/)

> 1. Use of kill reports & chatlogs to troll & flame is prohibited.
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> Pilots are permitted to post chatlogs and kill reports on the EVE Online forums if it adds to and is relevant to ongoing discussion, however this may not be done to flame, troll, insult, shame or bait other corporations or other pilots.

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**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2018, 11:54am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/oh-my-stars-and-garders/69333/35 "2018-04-14T11:54:33Z")

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Its ok. My killboard is what it is on this character.

I appreciate the support though.

But e real issue here, is the impact on EVE of this new content.  
My KB, in everycase, on this toon, has zero influence on that.

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**Author:** ![Kaivarian\_Coste](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kaivarian_coste/32/413759_2.png) [@Kaivarian\_Coste](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kaivarian_Coste)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2018, 1:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/oh-my-stars-and-garders/69333/36 "2018-04-14T13:57:37Z")

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Ate these sites on a timer or something?

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**Author:** ![LouHodo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/louhodo/32/109593_2.png) [@LouHodo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/LouHodo)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2018, 2:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/oh-my-stars-and-garders/69333/37 "2018-04-14T14:27:06Z")

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> [@DeMichael\_Crimson](#):
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> Dude, there’s a lot more to eve than just trying to epeen impress others with a damn zkillboard record.

First you are assuming I am trying to impress anyone. LOL quite the opposite. I am trying to show that this guy has no idea what he is talking about. Unless he has proof stating that there is ACTUAL RMT transactions going on, then he is also in violation of the EULA.

1.Specifically restricted conduct.  
-Ranting  
-Rumor Mongering  
2.Specifically restricted content.  
-Real Money Trading (RMT)

If he has proof, submit it to CCP, and leave it at that. Dont go on the forums and start rumor mongering about big alliances, and then rant about possible RMT transactions that they may or may not be doing.

I posted my proof that he has no clue what he is talking about by using his Zkillboard as such. If he has an alt in a major alliance and has proof that there is actual rule violations as such alt, then he SHOULD not be complaining about them here, but forwarding that information discretely to CCPs GM team.

So unless you are acting as a GM, which in this case would be a violation of rule 1, Impersonation.

Yes… I can rule lawyer too.

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**Author:** ![Gadget\_Helmsdottir](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gadget_helmsdottir/32/374037_2.png) [@Gadget\_Helmsdottir](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gadget_Helmsdottir)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2018, 3:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/oh-my-stars-and-garders/69333/38 "2018-04-14T15:21:03Z")

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Well…

It was just a few hundred years ago (if that), that the denizens of New Eden started to take seriously that everyone in New Eden might have a shared origin. The Old Earth theory is still a contested theory.

But, I get you. That article made me do a double take.

–Meat Popsicle Gadget

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**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/4/1/41ec4921cbaca7a6f9ea556e7cc20018461eae5e.png) [@system](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/system)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2018, 3:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/oh-my-stars-and-garders/69333/39 "2018-07-13T15:31:11Z")

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