# Ok…NOW I think Eve is dying

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**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [September 22, 2023, 4:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ok-now-i-think-eve-is-dying/421378 "2023-09-22T16:48:11Z")\
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**Author:** ![Sevlec\_Saaad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sevlec_saaad/32/377989_2.png) [@Sevlec\_Saaad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sevlec_Saaad)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2023, 4:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ok-now-i-think-eve-is-dying/421378/1 "2023-09-22T16:48:12Z")

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Soooo…having watched the Fanfest keynote, with the “big announcement” of a new integrated fps (yawn) and precious little else, I’m finally going to say it. Eve Online as we know it, is in caretaker mode.

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**Author:** ![Phaade](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/phaade/32/390475_2.png) [@Phaade](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Phaade)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2023, 4:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ok-now-i-think-eve-is-dying/421378/2 "2023-09-22T16:53:35Z")

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Is that really what it was?

Sorry i missed the live stream

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**Author:** ![Sevlec\_Saaad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sevlec_saaad/32/377989_2.png) [@Sevlec\_Saaad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sevlec_Saaad)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2023, 4:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ok-now-i-think-eve-is-dying/421378/3 "2023-09-22T16:59:07Z")

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There were a couple of new faction ships and a great-looking new Titan but absolutely nothing that looked like investment in the near future as far as I can see. Eve Online is already a great game - so why not fix and improve what we already have?

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**Author:** ![Arya\_Yeshe](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arya_yeshe/32/397211_2.png) [@Arya\_Yeshe](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arya_Yeshe)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2023, 5:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ok-now-i-think-eve-is-dying/421378/4 "2023-09-22T17:15:23Z")

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and again [Ashterothi](https://www.youtube.com/@Ashterothi) prophesized this

Hope the fps succeeds and add value to EVE, that’s all

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**Author:** ![Daekarus\_Helium](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/daekarus_helium/32/423680_2.png) [@Daekarus\_Helium](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Daekarus_Helium)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2023, 5:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ok-now-i-think-eve-is-dying/421378/5 "2023-09-22T17:20:47Z")

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Integrating new game modes to EVE (like mobile, FPS, VR) is a way to increase player base and multiply the lore possibilities (both pve- and players-driven). As long as they remain connected to the same universe.

There’s probably just so much people attracted to the classic EVE game mechanics. It’s time to reach new gamers if they really want the game to last forever.

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**Author:** ![Sevlec\_Saaad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sevlec_saaad/32/377989_2.png) [@Sevlec\_Saaad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sevlec_Saaad)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2023, 5:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ok-now-i-think-eve-is-dying/421378/6 "2023-09-22T17:25:51Z")

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I guess…I’ve just always felt that Eve Online’s huge point of difference was that it wasn’t all about controller reflexes etc and requires a huge investment in learning the mechanics - more 4x-ish than fps-ish.

Mind you, including logi in killmails is a massive gamechanger…I bet it takes them a year or so to do it tho.

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**Author:** ![Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/geo_eclipse_oksaras/32/500781_2.png) [@Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Geo_Eclipse_Oksaras)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2023, 5:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ok-now-i-think-eve-is-dying/421378/7 "2023-09-22T17:27:58Z")

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Thats the fps that eve london had been working on. The true predecessor to dust 514

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**Author:** ![Rocket\_Hellfire](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rocket_hellfire/32/396905_2.png) [@Rocket\_Hellfire](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rocket_Hellfire)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2023, 8:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ok-now-i-think-eve-is-dying/421378/8 "2023-09-22T20:23:28Z")

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Another waste of time and false hype…

Also, most of us have jobs. The first half of a Friday? like… wtf?

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**Author:** ![John\_Rochard](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/john_rochard/32/373864_2.png) [@John\_Rochard](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/John_Rochard)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2023, 8:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ok-now-i-think-eve-is-dying/421378/9 "2023-09-22T20:31:16Z")

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> [@Phaade](#):
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> Is that really what it was?
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> Sorry i missed the live stream

[![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/3/e/c/3ec728ba71e0f023fd309dc6783d27d081dcc346.jpeg "EVE Online | EVE Fanfest 2023 - EVE Keynote") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bSdm12r1W04)

Here you go. I never watch the Black Desert version of this (mostly because I don’t speak Korean) but I wait for someone to summarize them for me.

Fly safe o7

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**Author:** ![Chupi\_fantastika](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/chupi_fantastika/32/453335_2.png) [@Chupi\_fantastika](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Chupi_fantastika)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2023, 9:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ok-now-i-think-eve-is-dying/421378/10 "2023-09-22T21:01:02Z")

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![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/8/9/d/89d8ad990019bd34ea4e9f181f719e402689ecde.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![Anthony\_FatTony\_Amico](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anthony_fattony_amico/32/391106_2.png) [@Anthony\_FatTony\_Amico](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anthony_FatTony_Amico)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2023, 9:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ok-now-i-think-eve-is-dying/421378/11 "2023-09-22T21:05:29Z")

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> [@Sevlec\_Saaad](#):
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> Eve Online as we know it, is in caretaker mode.

ARENT, YOU HYPED FOR EVE FPS 2.0??

EVE FPS is the last thing we got dude. I am hyped up to murder people in EVE with my SMGs mafia style.

**CAN’T MULTIBOX FPS GAMES!!** I hope…

> [@Daekarus\_Helium](#):
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> There’s probably just so much people attracted to the classic EVE game mechanics. It’s time to reach new gamers if they really want the game to last forever.

Yup gotta diversify. Products have a lifespan, and it is required study in business school. CCP is taking a gamble going into the highly saturated FPS market, but they are leveraging their uniqueness to hopefully break through. All we can do is send hope, positive vibes, and prayer to CCP HQ.

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**Author:** ![Sienna\_Massilia](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sienna_massilia/32/390388_2.png) [@Sienna\_Massilia](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sienna_Massilia)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2023, 10:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ok-now-i-think-eve-is-dying/421378/12 "2023-09-22T22:38:17Z")

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**Author:** ![Arya\_Yeshe](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arya_yeshe/32/397211_2.png) [@Arya\_Yeshe](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arya_Yeshe)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2023, 11:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ok-now-i-think-eve-is-dying/421378/13 "2023-09-22T23:18:04Z")

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> [@Anthony\_FatTony\_Amico](#):
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> CAN’T MULTIBOX FPS GAMES!

The EVE community will take this challenge! 😃

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**Author:** ![Wolfgang\_Jannesen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wolfgang_jannesen/32/496726_2.png) [@Wolfgang\_Jannesen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wolfgang_Jannesen)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2023, 11:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ok-now-i-think-eve-is-dying/421378/14 "2023-09-22T23:33:08Z")

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This just in: the end is still nigh a thousand years later

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**Author:** ![Karak\_Terrel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/karak_terrel/32/373453_2.png) [@Karak\_Terrel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Karak_Terrel)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2023, 11:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ok-now-i-think-eve-is-dying/421378/15 "2023-09-22T23:47:33Z")

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What platform is the FPS released on?

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**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2023, 11:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ok-now-i-think-eve-is-dying/421378/16 "2023-09-22T23:50:18Z")

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> [@Anthony\_FatTony\_Amico](#):
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> I am hyped up to murder people in EVE with my SMGs

I’m gonna snipe miners.

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**Author:** ![Elinore\_en\_Divalone](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/elinore_en_divalone/32/507815_2.png) [@Elinore\_en\_Divalone](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Elinore_en_Divalone)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2023, 1:28am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ok-now-i-think-eve-is-dying/421378/17 "2023-09-23T01:28:22Z")

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A frame from the Keynote’23 🙂

Collectors edition _curio card_:  
first mention of _EVE is dying_ 🙂

 ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/a/e/7/ae7d3059fbf7eed559ed738910e9e9bfe63cf88d.jpeg)

the game is like clones inside, it dies and dies and dies …and keeps on dying to li(E)VE Forever 🙂

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**Author:** ![Anthony\_FatTony\_Amico](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anthony_fattony_amico/32/391106_2.png) [@Anthony\_FatTony\_Amico](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anthony_FatTony_Amico)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2023, 3:18am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ok-now-i-think-eve-is-dying/421378/18 "2023-09-23T03:18:21Z")

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LOL 😂 😂 😂 😂 🤣

YOU MADE MY DAY

EVE dying since 2003 people.

CCP: 20 years later.

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**Author:** ![Dyver\_Phycad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dyver_phycad/32/358575_2.png) [@Dyver\_Phycad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dyver_Phycad)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2023, 5:01am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ok-now-i-think-eve-is-dying/421378/19 "2023-09-23T05:01:32Z")

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The FPS could be interesting if it adds new dimensions to warfare. For instance, in a tidilagfest over an Ihub, it could play out on planet to aid attacks on space infrastructure and give more things to do to progress whatever is going on while your ship is stuck in 10 minute server ticks.

But the rest was really lackluster, to say the least. Especially the instant travel to any system ship caster in Zarzakh is just pandering to instant gratification crowds.

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**Author:** ![John\_Rochard](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/john_rochard/32/373864_2.png) [@John\_Rochard](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/John_Rochard)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2023, 6:16am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ok-now-i-think-eve-is-dying/421378/20 "2023-09-23T06:16:02Z")

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Yes, you can see that in the posted video at time index 18:30 to 19:00. Personally I think the plushie is worth more, but that is just my opinion.

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