# Ok…NOW I think Eve is dying **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [September 22, 2023, 4:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ok-now-i-think-eve-is-dying/421378 "2023-09-22T16:48:11Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Daekarus\_Helium](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/daekarus_helium/32/423680_2.png) [@Daekarus\_Helium](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Daekarus_Helium)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2023, 6:45am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ok-now-i-think-eve-is-dying/421378/21 "2023-09-23T06:45:03Z")
PC on Unreal Engine ---
**Author:** ![New\_Order\_Enforcer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/new_order_enforcer/32/387867_2.png) [@New\_Order\_Enforcer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/New_Order_Enforcer)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2023, 10:08am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ok-now-i-think-eve-is-dying/421378/22 "2023-09-23T10:08:55Z")
> [@Anthony\_FatTony\_Amico](#): > > Yup gotta diversify. Products have a lifespan, and it is required study in business school. Business schools are not always right, there are many products out there and you cant generalize all of them under a set of rules. For example CCP has failed at every project besides EVE online. And the game is still here. It is better for them to keep doing the same thing instead of burning money on another mega fail-project. Perhaps they are looking to “scam” money from some investors (already did), which is ok, but if you believe this is going somewhere… ---
**Author:** ![Anthony\_FatTony\_Amico](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anthony_fattony_amico/32/391106_2.png) [@Anthony\_FatTony\_Amico](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anthony_FatTony_Amico)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2023, 1:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ok-now-i-think-eve-is-dying/421378/23 "2023-09-23T13:46:57Z")
I can point to all the major companies who attempt or have different branches in their business. (aka diversity) The joy and uniqueness of EVE will eventually fade away. Competitors will come up perhaps in the next 5-10-20+ years. Hay at least CCP is trying to expand beyond their main product. 😆 😅 > [@New\_Order\_Enforcer](#): > > It is better for them to keep doing the same thing instead of burning money on another mega fail-project. They would burn more money recoding and fixing the game from the jumbled-up code+ all the years of patches than adding something new. I mean products DO have a lifespan… They will decline to nothingness eventually. And what CCP can do is keep extending the mature phase of the product to continue generating income OR create a new product line. **We can argue on CCP strategy all we want. But I am HYPED for EVE FPS.** I’ll throw my $$$ at them for the second time in my career if it’s decent. ---
**Author:** ![New\_Order\_Enforcer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/new_order_enforcer/32/387867_2.png) [@New\_Order\_Enforcer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/New_Order_Enforcer)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2023, 3:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ok-now-i-think-eve-is-dying/421378/24 "2023-09-23T15:14:16Z")
yes hyped like Dust 514, Valkyrie, World of Darkness, Gunjack, Project Nova, Walking in Stations… the thing is to keep you hyped I know ---
**Author:** ![Anthony\_FatTony\_Amico](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anthony_fattony_amico/32/391106_2.png) [@Anthony\_FatTony\_Amico](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anthony_FatTony_Amico)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2023, 3:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ok-now-i-think-eve-is-dying/421378/25 "2023-09-23T15:18:36Z")
Nah I wasn’t here for Valkyrie, WOD, Gunjack, Project Nova, WIS, or even Dust 514. I am hyped on pure concept of EVE FPS. I only know what Dust 514 was like from research. ---
**Author:** ![Phaade](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/phaade/32/390475_2.png) [@Phaade](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Phaade)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2023, 3:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ok-now-i-think-eve-is-dying/421378/26 "2023-09-23T15:47:33Z")
> [@New\_Order\_Enforcer](#): > > yes hyped like Dust 514, Valkyrie, World of Darkness, Gunjack, Project Nova, Walking in Stations… the thing is to keep you hyped I know Dust wasn’t a bad game though, it was just on the wrong platform ---
**Author:** ![Rexxar\_Santaro](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rexxar_santaro/32/420075_2.png) [@Rexxar\_Santaro](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rexxar_Santaro)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2023, 5:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ok-now-i-think-eve-is-dying/421378/27 "2023-09-23T17:47:39Z")
> [@Sevlec\_Saaad](#): > > having watched the Fanfest keynote, with the “big announcement” of a new integrated fps (yawn) and precious little else What did you see there so disturbing? What do you mean under the word “integrated”? Did they say that you have to collect some stuff from a fps game for EVE capitals? ---
**Author:** ![Doctor\_Nijushiho](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/doctor_nijushiho/32/385189_2.png) [@Doctor\_Nijushiho](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Doctor_Nijushiho)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2023, 10:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ok-now-i-think-eve-is-dying/421378/28 "2023-09-23T22:22:20Z")
> Integrating new game modes to EVE (like mobile, FPS, VR) is a way to increase player base and multiply the lore possibilities (both pve- and players-driven). We had this before with Dust. It was awful. Dust was a terrible game. Imagine a dark, apocalyptic COD except about 1/3 the quality. Meanwhile, inside Eve systems in local those guys were spamming the chat the whole time with no idea who the hell we were or what we were doing. SHUT THE F UP DUST BUNNIES! was a common thing. ---
**Author:** ![Arya\_Yeshe](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arya_yeshe/32/397211_2.png) [@Arya\_Yeshe](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arya_Yeshe)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2023, 10:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ok-now-i-think-eve-is-dying/421378/29 "2023-09-23T22:43:15Z")
> [@Anthony\_FatTony\_Amico](#): > > urder people in EVE with my SMGs mafia style Mr Tony, if there’s any gun that resembles a Tommy Gun, I will gladly provide batches for you ---
**Author:** ![Elinore\_en\_Divalone](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/elinore_en_divalone/32/507815_2.png) [@Elinore\_en\_Divalone](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Elinore_en_Divalone)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2023, 10:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ok-now-i-think-eve-is-dying/421378/30 "2023-09-23T22:52:35Z")
And now EVE players spam-link local with buddy invites 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Vokan\_Narkar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vokan_narkar/32/326293_2.png) [@Vokan\_Narkar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vokan_Narkar)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2023, 11:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ok-now-i-think-eve-is-dying/421378/31 "2023-09-23T23:44:34Z")
> [@Phaade](#): > > Dust wasn’t a bad game though, it was just on the wrong platform Was it really? Sure majority of the EVE players probably belong to PC master race and thus they would never play something exclusive to Playstation or whichever different console. But then, EVE is a game where you spend your whole free time. No, where you must spend you whole free time to achieve anything. So I doubt that EVE players will have time to play fps shooter from EVE universe along EVE. Although at least CCP might be able to sell a lot of copies as they have loyal fan base who will buy it. If they keep playing this is another thing thought. And except of EVE players, considering that fps “market” is harsh with a lot of competition, do you really think that what you saw has a chance to attract new or even “steal” players from other fps games? I am not saying it doesn’t, I am not familiar with the genre so I can’t really tell if the gameplay was good or not from the fanfest video, but I am worried nevertheless. ---
**Author:** ![Anthony\_FatTony\_Amico](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anthony_fattony_amico/32/391106_2.png) [@Anthony\_FatTony\_Amico](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anthony_FatTony_Amico)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2023, 12:22am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ok-now-i-think-eve-is-dying/421378/32 "2023-09-24T00:22:34Z")
> [@Vokan\_Narkar](#): > > And except of EVE players, considering that fps “market” is harsh with a lot of competition, do you really think that what you saw has a chance to attract new or even “steal” players from other fps games? It’s a gamble CCP knows it too. I really felt like they want to redeem themselves from botching the roll out of Dust as it was a console exclusive when the main game was PC. The stakes are high. All eyes are on CCP and how they build this universe. ---
**Author:** ![Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/geo_eclipse_oksaras/32/500781_2.png) [@Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Geo_Eclipse_Oksaras)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2023, 12:38am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ok-now-i-think-eve-is-dying/421378/33 "2023-09-24T00:38:04Z")
> [@Vokan\_Narkar](#): > > Was it really? The ps3 was at the end of its cycle. If anything dust should have been put on the new gen consoles at the time and not the old one ---
**Author:** ![Blacklight](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/blacklight/32/375395_2.png) [@Blacklight](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Blacklight)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2023, 2:15am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ok-now-i-think-eve-is-dying/421378/34 "2023-09-24T02:15:58Z")
What a surprise, Eve is dying threads following fanfest. Never seen this before… ---
**Author:** ![Anthony\_FatTony\_Amico](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anthony_fattony_amico/32/391106_2.png) [@Anthony\_FatTony\_Amico](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anthony_FatTony_Amico)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2023, 2:58am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ok-now-i-think-eve-is-dying/421378/35 "2023-09-24T02:58:49Z")
Right!? Haters gona hate. Apparently, EVE is dying for 20+ years now. Anyone who subscribes to that mentality of dead games is weak minded. ---
**Author:** ![Phaade](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/phaade/32/390475_2.png) [@Phaade](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Phaade)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2023, 4:17am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ok-now-i-think-eve-is-dying/421378/36 "2023-09-24T04:17:31Z")
> [@Vokan\_Narkar](#): > > > [@Phaade](#): > > > > Dust wasn’t a bad game though, it was just on the wrong platform > > Was it really? > > Sure majority of the EVE players probably belong to PC master race and thus they would never play something exclusive to Playstation or whichever different console. > > But then, EVE is a game where you spend your whole free time. No, where you must spend you whole free time to achieve anything. So I doubt that EVE players will have time to play fps shooter from EVE universe along EVE. Although at least CCP might be able to sell a lot of copies as they have loyal fan base who will buy it. If they keep playing this is another thing thought. > > And except of EVE players, considering that fps “market” is harsh with a lot of competition, do you really think that what you saw has a chance to attract new or even “steal” players from other fps games? I am not saying it doesn’t, I am not familiar with the genre so I can’t really tell if the gameplay was good or not from the fanfest video, but I am worried nevertheless. None of this is relevant. And much simply not true. I play at most a few hours a week and have billions. Not that I’m anything special, but who cares. Eve players were at one point 60k strong concurrent. Most of them would have played dust, at least checked out it. Launching on PS3 was one of the most staggeringly foolish decisions I can imagine. And yes, eve fps does have something to offer, especially in the era of Tarkov like games, hardcore wow, and other harsh games with significant loss mechanics becoming more popular. ---
**Author:** ![Karll\_Zero](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/karll_zero/32/472001_2.png) [@Karll\_Zero](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Karll_Zero)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2023, 8:37am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ok-now-i-think-eve-is-dying/421378/37 "2023-09-24T08:37:49Z")
I’m hyped AF about the news and it seems to me like they are putting a lot of efforts into the development of Eve. What I do see is a lot of players on forums being scared changes might modify their ways or question their local supremacy ---
**Author:** ![Daekarus\_Helium](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/daekarus_helium/32/423680_2.png) [@Daekarus\_Helium](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Daekarus_Helium)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2023, 8:58am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ok-now-i-think-eve-is-dying/421378/38 "2023-09-24T08:58:52Z")
I acknowledge your past experience (I wasn’t there during DUST). Of course it has to be done properly this time for the whole thing to work. But the fact they keep trying to get this done confirms that this is the only way to proceed in order di achieve EVE Forever. ---
**Author:** ![Elinore\_en\_Divalone](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/elinore_en_divalone/32/507815_2.png) [@Elinore\_en\_Divalone](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Elinore_en_Divalone)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2023, 9:12am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ok-now-i-think-eve-is-dying/421378/39 "2023-09-24T09:12:01Z")
Tbh I didn’t expect EVE Vanguard release yet. Some new screenshots, _be patient we are still on it_, soon™ 🙂 And during the keynote I almost fell of my chair from excitement. Then simultaneusly felt panic for ccp botching it by pushing something unfinished on us in hurrry 😉 I keep my fingers crossed for you CCP 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Sienna\_Massilia](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sienna_massilia/32/390388_2.png) [@Sienna\_Massilia](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sienna_Massilia)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2023, 9:19am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ok-now-i-think-eve-is-dying/421378/40 "2023-09-24T09:19:40Z")
> [@Sevlec\_Saaad](#): > > nothing that looked like investment in the near future What would an investment in the near future look like according to you? > [@Sevlec\_Saaad](#): > > so why not fix and improve what we already have? Is fixing and improving stuff an investment in the near future? Or is it simply maintenance? To me, a new way of playing the game is exactly what “an investment in the near future” looks like. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ok-now-i-think-eve-is-dying/421378.md?page=1) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ok-now-i-think-eve-is-dying/421378.md?page=3)