# Omist / tenal - perma tidi. CCP can you put more resources into the botting regions? **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [March 26, 2020, 1:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/omist-tenal-perma-tidi-ccp-can-you-put-more-resources-into-the-botting-regions/227944 "2020-03-26T13:57:29Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![CraftyCroc](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/craftycroc/32/257796_2.png) [@CraftyCroc](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/CraftyCroc)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2020, 1:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/omist-tenal-perma-tidi-ccp-can-you-put-more-resources-into-the-botting-regions/227944/1 "2020-03-26T13:57:29Z")
kind of a joke trying to fly there. No large scale wars just gila’s/ishtars and supers farming anoms all day. ---
**Author:** ![Salt\_Foambreaker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salt_foambreaker/32/280119_2.png) [@Salt\_Foambreaker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salt_Foambreaker)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2020, 2:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/omist-tenal-perma-tidi-ccp-can-you-put-more-resources-into-the-botting-regions/227944/2 "2020-03-26T14:38:19Z")
Simple fix: Blackout ---
**Author:** ![CraftyCroc](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/craftycroc/32/257796_2.png) [@CraftyCroc](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/CraftyCroc)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2020, 2:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/omist-tenal-perma-tidi-ccp-can-you-put-more-resources-into-the-botting-regions/227944/3 "2020-03-26T14:47:22Z")
preaching to the converted but alas CCP won’t make nullsec risky. If TIDI is an intended home defence mechanism then nullsec is truly dead ---
**Author:** ![Salt\_Foambreaker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salt_foambreaker/32/280119_2.png) [@Salt\_Foambreaker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salt_Foambreaker)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2020, 2:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/omist-tenal-perma-tidi-ccp-can-you-put-more-resources-into-the-botting-regions/227944/4 "2020-03-26T14:48:54Z")
It only seems to bother the farmers, so really if they leave, that would be a huge plus for the game. ---
**Author:** ![Sordina1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sordina1/32/158264_2.png) [@Sordina1](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sordina1)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2020, 2:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/omist-tenal-perma-tidi-ccp-can-you-put-more-resources-into-the-botting-regions/227944/5 "2020-03-26T14:56:14Z")
> [@CraftyCroc](#): > > just gila’s/ishtars and supers farming anoms all day. You just find out cause of your issue. ---
**Author:** ![Caleb\_Seremshur](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/caleb_seremshur/32/399348_2.png) [@Caleb\_Seremshur](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Caleb_Seremshur)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2020, 9:50am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/omist-tenal-perma-tidi-ccp-can-you-put-more-resources-into-the-botting-regions/227944/6 "2020-03-28T09:50:43Z")
> [@Sordina1](#): > > You just find out cause of your issue. actually TIDI would be reducing their profits, right? since they are playing at a reduced rate. Big think. ---
**Author:** ![CraftyCroc](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/craftycroc/32/257796_2.png) [@CraftyCroc](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/CraftyCroc)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2020, 1:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/omist-tenal-perma-tidi-ccp-can-you-put-more-resources-into-the-botting-regions/227944/7 "2020-03-28T13:45:54Z")
bump - omist again just perma tidi. ---
**Author:** ![Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nicolai_serkanner/32/358049_2.png) [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nicolai_Serkanner)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2020, 2:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/omist-tenal-perma-tidi-ccp-can-you-put-more-resources-into-the-botting-regions/227944/8 "2020-03-28T14:45:19Z")
Crying about it here will not change anything. ---
**Author:** ![CraftyCroc](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/craftycroc/32/257796_2.png) [@CraftyCroc](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/CraftyCroc)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2020, 3:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/omist-tenal-perma-tidi-ccp-can-you-put-more-resources-into-the-botting-regions/227944/9 "2020-03-28T15:09:35Z")
thanks for your input. I don’t know of any other method to liaise with CCP other then the eve forums. Perhaps you can advise on how best i can go about getting it noticed and fixed? ---
**Author:** ![Ugren\_Okaski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ugren_okaski/32/181459_2.png) [@Ugren\_Okaski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ugren_Okaski)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2020, 3:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/omist-tenal-perma-tidi-ccp-can-you-put-more-resources-into-the-botting-regions/227944/10 "2020-03-28T15:34:03Z")
> [@CraftyCroc](#): > > I don’t know of any other method to liaise with CCP other then the eve forums Did you try to submit a ticket? ---
**Author:** ![Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nicolai_serkanner/32/358049_2.png) [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nicolai_Serkanner)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2020, 7:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/omist-tenal-perma-tidi-ccp-can-you-put-more-resources-into-the-botting-regions/227944/11 "2020-03-28T19:39:24Z")
> [@CraftyCroc](#): > > Perhaps you can advise on how best i can go about getting it noticed and fixed? Submit a ticket. ---
**Author:** ![Solstice\_Projekt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solstice_projekt/32/503293_2.png) [@Solstice\_Projekt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solstice_Projekt)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2020, 10:19am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/omist-tenal-perma-tidi-ccp-can-you-put-more-resources-into-the-botting-regions/227944/12 "2020-03-29T10:19:25Z")
> [@CraftyCroc](#): > > Perhaps you can advise on how best i can go about getting it noticed and fixed? Get more people to go there. The problem will be fixed proportionally quickly to the amount of people you manage to get there doing things. This may sound silly, but it’s true. It also completely changes your problem-solving approach away from asking/complaining/begging CCP to do something about it to forcing them to do something about it, or, in other words: Stop being a peasant and start raising hell. The hard part now becomes convincing people to log in all their alts so they do something on the respective nodes. Most people are completely oblivious to the fact that approaching problems in-game has a far higher chance of achieving something compared to writing useless words on a ■■■■■■■ forum. The only ones who care about complaints on the ■■■■■■■ internet are the idiots writing them. They’re so stuck in the mindset of being worthless, powerless, defenseless, helpless, obedient slaves lacking any and all self-responsibility, they know nothing else anymore. ---
**Author:** ![Nevyn\_Auscent](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nevyn_auscent/32/255124_2.png) [@Nevyn\_Auscent](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nevyn_Auscent)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2020, 10:24am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/omist-tenal-perma-tidi-ccp-can-you-put-more-resources-into-the-botting-regions/227944/13 "2020-03-29T10:24:58Z")
Maybe producing evidence like screenshots showing it is actually perma tidi. Not just for 10 minutes. That’s a good start. Documenting rather than just words. Then yes, smash it to 5% tidi repeatedly and the load balancer will do it for you. ---
**Author:** ![Solstice\_Projekt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solstice_projekt/32/503293_2.png) [@Solstice\_Projekt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solstice_Projekt)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2020, 10:26am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/omist-tenal-perma-tidi-ccp-can-you-put-more-resources-into-the-botting-regions/227944/14 "2020-03-29T10:26:40Z")
> [@Nevyn\_Auscent](#): > > Maybe producing evidence like screenshots showing it is actually perma tidi. For whom? For us? What’s the point? Or are you saying CCP wouldn’t know about it and thus documenting it makes sense? I’d totally agree if it wasn’t their servers and that it’d not be possible they’d not know about it if he just pointed at it once, assuming that’s actually even necessary. _(that sentence is a mess, sorry)_ They just don’t give a ■■■■, because why would they. ---
**Author:** ![Nevyn\_Auscent](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nevyn_auscent/32/255124_2.png) [@Nevyn\_Auscent](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nevyn_Auscent)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2020, 10:29am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/omist-tenal-perma-tidi-ccp-can-you-put-more-resources-into-the-botting-regions/227944/15 "2020-03-29T10:29:13Z")
The CCP who read the forums may not know about it. CCP is not a hive mind, even the load balancing Dev may not have seen it yet depending what data queries they’ve run today on server stats. ---
**Author:** ![Solstice\_Projekt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solstice_projekt/32/503293_2.png) [@Solstice\_Projekt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solstice_Projekt)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2020, 10:34am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/omist-tenal-perma-tidi-ccp-can-you-put-more-resources-into-the-botting-regions/227944/16 "2020-03-29T10:34:18Z")
There’s no way there’s no software monitoring the load of a node and reporting it as soon as something happens. That’s too much standard procedure not to have such an alarm system in place, regardless of what kind of software is running on a cluster. Just think about the madness of not knowing how your actually money making product is performing at any single point in time. I do understand your point and I’m not trying to argue, but it’s far more likely they’re simply not giving a ■■■■. From what I remember, their load balancing system moves around star systems according to usage. So star systems with higher average load in the last 24h will be moved onto nodes with less average usage. Considering that he’s experiencing perma-tidi for several days now, it’s safe to assume the star systems already are on seperate nodes and that the load simply is too heavy. There’s just no way of them not knowing about it and whoever responsible for monitoring the health of the cluster wouldn’t be keeping his, or their, jobs for long. ---
**Author:** ![Nevyn\_Auscent](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nevyn_auscent/32/255124_2.png) [@Nevyn\_Auscent](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nevyn_Auscent)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2020, 10:38am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/omist-tenal-perma-tidi-ccp-can-you-put-more-resources-into-the-botting-regions/227944/17 "2020-03-29T10:38:53Z")
> [@Solstice\_Projekt](#): > > There’s no way there’s no software monitoring the load of a node and reporting it as soon as something happens I’m pretty sure CCP do not have an alarm set for when a node hits 60% tidi. That’s not even 2 to 1 tidi yet. I’m sure it is in a report somewhere along with the thousand other times nodes hit 60%. And I’m questioning if he really is hitting it perma. Or has just only noticing it right after logging in or something. I mean this is the EVE forums. Not like anyone ever talks a problem up bigger than it really is on these forums right? ---
**Author:** ![Solstice\_Projekt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solstice_projekt/32/503293_2.png) [@Solstice\_Projekt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solstice_Projekt)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2020, 11:02am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/omist-tenal-perma-tidi-ccp-can-you-put-more-resources-into-the-botting-regions/227944/18 "2020-03-29T11:02:33Z")
> [@Nevyn\_Auscent](#): > > Not like anyone ever talks a problem up bigger than it really is on these forums right? Fair. ---
**Author:** ![CraftyCroc](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/craftycroc/32/257796_2.png) [@CraftyCroc](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/CraftyCroc)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2020, 2:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/omist-tenal-perma-tidi-ccp-can-you-put-more-resources-into-the-botting-regions/227944/19 "2020-03-29T14:21:53Z")
why do you feel the need to post ? nothing you’ve said is remotely useful ---
**Author:** ![Solstice\_Projekt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solstice_projekt/32/503293_2.png) [@Solstice\_Projekt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solstice_Projekt)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2020, 4:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/omist-tenal-perma-tidi-ccp-can-you-put-more-resources-into-the-botting-regions/227944/21 "2020-03-29T16:39:24Z")
> [@CraftyCroc](#): > > why do you feel the need to post ? nothing you’ve said is remotely useful Why is it not useful? [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/omist-tenal-perma-tidi-ccp-can-you-put-more-resources-into-the-botting-regions/227944.md?page=2)