# On slavery and the Reclaiming of souls **URL:** \ **Category:** Intergalactic Summit\ **Created:** [December 16, 2019, 12:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/on-slavery-and-the-reclaiming-of-souls/206775 "2019-12-16T12:51:21Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 5\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Elsebeth\_Rhiannon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/elsebeth_rhiannon/32/418836_2.png) [@Elsebeth\_Rhiannon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Elsebeth_Rhiannon)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2019, 6:57am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/on-slavery-and-the-reclaiming-of-souls/206775/41 "2019-12-25T06:57:50Z")
> [@Merdaneth](#): > > I do not and never have recognized him as my superior with regards to scriptural interpretation. It is very telling you take a link to a carefully considered argument as as appeal to _authority_. ---
**Author:** ![Jade\_Blackwind](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jade_blackwind/32/197719_2.png) [@Jade\_Blackwind](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jade_Blackwind)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2019, 10:05am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/on-slavery-and-the-reclaiming-of-souls/206775/42 "2019-12-25T10:05:01Z")
> [@Merdaneth](#): > > Practice what you preach youngling. And how I do not? Though I never was a slave in the Empire, there was a time when I was forced to work for the Angels. And when I emerged free against their will, the place of my suffering burned to atoms, and so did everyone within it who caused me harm. Freedom born in fire and blood. This what really made me what I am. My decision to side with the Matari people does not come from my upbringing, training, or any other kind of brainwash; it is a free, conscious choice, because right now some of our goals align well. Also, the Matari society is much less a pyramid of power than any other empire, but more like a lot of overlapping influence networks. As Elsebeth likes to say, “loyalty not freely given is worth nothing”. So I do practice what I preach, old man. ---
**Author:** ![Nicoletta\_Mithra](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nicoletta_mithra/32/378065_2.png) [@Nicoletta\_Mithra](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nicoletta_Mithra)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2019, 10:59am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/on-slavery-and-the-reclaiming-of-souls/206775/43 "2019-12-27T10:59:05Z")
> [@Elsebeth\_Rhiannon](#): > > It is very telling you take a link to a carefully considered argument as as appeal to _authority_ . > [@Merdaneth](#): > > But even so, his primary argument in the quoted treatise is against generational slavery as a mechanism to forgive sin. I fail to see how that is at odds with my own statement. Well, wether or not it was an appeal to authority doesn’t matter. If it is, it’s not accepted as such and dismissed out of hand. If it is not, then - as pointed out (I quoted that part above) - it’s a non sequitur. That generational slavery has no justification in purifying anyone of sin, that there is no inheritable sin has no bearing on whether the express purpose of Amarr society is to free all slaves eventually - or not. ---
**Author:** ![Morgana\_Tsukiyo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/morgana_tsukiyo/32/385507_2.png) [@Morgana\_Tsukiyo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Morgana_Tsukiyo)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2019, 12:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/on-slavery-and-the-reclaiming-of-souls/206775/44 "2019-12-27T12:33:25Z")
> [@Jade\_Blackwind](#): > > My decision to (…) does not come from my upbringing, training, or any other kind of brainwash; it is a free, conscious choice _A puppet is free as long as he loves his strings._ It is unwise to dismiss so easily what crossed your path, even what you were not able to percieve. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/4/1/41ec4921cbaca7a6f9ea556e7cc20018461eae5e.png) [@system](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2020, 4:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/on-slavery-and-the-reclaiming-of-souls/206775/46 "2020-03-26T16:16:36Z")
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