# On slavery and the Reclaiming of souls **URL:** \ **Category:** Intergalactic Summit\ **Created:** [December 16, 2019, 12:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/on-slavery-and-the-reclaiming-of-souls/206775 "2019-12-16T12:51:21Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 34
**Author:** ![Jade\_Blackwind](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jade_blackwind/32/197719_2.png) [@Jade\_Blackwind](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jade_Blackwind)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2019, 10:55am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/on-slavery-and-the-reclaiming-of-souls/206775/34 "2019-12-24T10:55:03Z")
> [@Merdaneth](#): > > I have no doubt that you have good intentions, but I fear your education is somewhat lacking. In this world, no one is perfect. > [@](#): > > Enslavement does not take away a person’s free will. If that were true, slaves would not able to stage any escapes. What about a slave that sabotages their work assignments, according to your argument that would be that will of their new master? What is an ideal slave? Obedient and faithful, with enough intelligence to understand the master’s wishes and complete the assigned tasks. When faced with a choice, such a slave always selects the option that favors the interests of his master first. But to make such a choice without direct instructions, to be properly loyal, the slave must understand the master really well. Sort of like having a mental image of the master to follow. Thus, even if the ideal slave formally acts on his own will, he follows his inner master. The Nation brings this ideal to perfection, with the real Master actually connected to the slaves in the mind-hive of theirs. Those slaves who sabotage and try to escape, are far from the ideal, aren’t they? They act on their own true will, and not on their master’s, real or imaginary. And this is a good thing. > [@](#): > > While you certainly seem to know more about Amarr religion than your average unwashed barbarian, you fail to understand that free will is critical to achieving enlightenment. Faith comes from inside, it is a spiritual growth. Faith is not a string of empty words spoken at the crack of a whip. What you really do is nurture the “Caldari Prime Syndrome” in your victims. You know, when the hostages are so traumatized they break and start to side with the terrorists. Your system is built to break people to the point that they eventually form in their head the “inner master” I described above and begin to follow it. Your faith is just a part of this. > [@](#): > > Bones only grow strong when needing to bear weight, muscles only develop when you stretch them to their limits, only harsh tests bring out the true mark of a man. Overcoming hardships grows and strengthens the soul, do you not agree? Entirely. This is why the weak ones eventually submit and emerge as loyal servants of the Empire, and the strong overcome, resist and rise. > [@](#): > > You confusion is further underlined by your statement that it is every’s slave’s duty to resist and rise. How can they resist and rise when they have been stripped of free will? Choose one or the other please. Being stripped of free will (or, rather, following the master’s echo in one’s head in the attempts to faithfully serve) is the “ideal” state. Those who resist just don’t reach it. > [@](#): > > Additionally, by saying ‘every slave has a duty’, are you not trying to rob them of their free will yourself. Are you not telling them what they should do regardless of what they want? No. I’m telling that slavery is a test of one to remain true to themselves. If that person fails the test, it’s their weakness, and it’s bad. If that person overcomes and emerges free against the will of their master, it’s good. > [@](#): > > Will you force them to resist at gunpoint? No, I’m not interested in that. To force someone to resist at gunpoint is a bad idea. That slave will just backstab you and return to their comfy herd. > [@](#): > > Sound like you want to be their new master instead? Not really interested, sorry. What I really want is to break up the pyramids of power you people dedicate most your lives to build. The Empire is just the biggest one that creates the most suffering for those at the bottom of it. > [@](#): > > I think you and me are much alike. I doubt that. --- _[View the full topic](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/on-slavery-and-the-reclaiming-of-souls/206775)._