# On the Reality of Mining Permits

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/on-the-reality-of-mining-permits/460089>\
**Category:** Crime & Punishment\
**Created:** [August 30, 2024, 5:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/on-the-reality-of-mining-permits/460089 "2024-08-30T17:57:14Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2024, 5:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/on-the-reality-of-mining-permits/460089/185 "2024-09-24T17:12:31Z")

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> [@James\_Bohd](#):
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> Whatcha gonna do about it

 ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/5/a/3/5a3153fa429a6ff26c28e356b98cee36ee7bf080.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![Sargon\_Of\_Amerish](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sargon_of_amerish/32/381433_2.png) [@Sargon\_Of\_Amerish](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sargon_Of_Amerish)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2024, 8:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/on-the-reality-of-mining-permits/460089/186 "2024-09-24T20:41:53Z")

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_MuSt bE GeTtInG BoWiNg iN Da gAnK WoWlD As nOw gAnKeWs aWe wEsOwTiNg 2 tWoLlInG AbOuT AnTi-gAnK._  
:sadparrot: :sadparrot: :sadparrot:

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**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2024, 8:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/on-the-reality-of-mining-permits/460089/187 "2024-09-24T20:56:00Z")

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Excellent. Now try saying that backwards

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**Author:** ![Sargon\_Of\_Amerish](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sargon_of_amerish/32/381433_2.png) [@Sargon\_Of\_Amerish](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sargon_Of_Amerish)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2024, 8:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/on-the-reality-of-mining-permits/460089/188 "2024-09-24T20:57:28Z")

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> [@Carlos\_Warren](#):
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> I do not fly untanked Retrievers and that appears to be the only thing they pose a threat to

Sure Jan…

 ![Screenshot_24-9-2024_165243_zkillboard.com](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/c/f/6/cf66fc4f397aed554d85f51fa6627f5b7c104e0f.jpeg)

Whatever you say! 💁‍♂️

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**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2024, 9:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/on-the-reality-of-mining-permits/460089/189 "2024-09-24T21:03:37Z")

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He still talking about BLACKFLAG who he thinks are gankers?

 ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/7/e/4/7e4eb598500ad7f55a6ed4763a8138b8e31d072c.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![James\_Bohd](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/james_bohd/32/431694_2.png) [@James\_Bohd](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/James_Bohd)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2024, 9:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/on-the-reality-of-mining-permits/460089/190 "2024-09-24T21:11:07Z")

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Back on topic.  
I will **NEVER** pay for a mining permit, Aiko-Jezebel-Keena-Kara.  
And there ain’t sh- you can do about it.

Thus, permits only exist in your warped minds.

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**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2024, 9:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/on-the-reality-of-mining-permits/460089/191 "2024-09-24T21:13:03Z")

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Calm down miner

 ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/5/d/0/5d0232300be5b0554bb3533081173ae34ebfd63b.jpeg)

Your tears are delicious

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**Author:** ![James\_Bohd](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/james_bohd/32/431694_2.png) [@James\_Bohd](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/James_Bohd)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2024, 9:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/on-the-reality-of-mining-permits/460089/192 "2024-09-24T21:18:39Z")

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Calm down, Jezebel.

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**Author:** ![James\_Bohd](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/james_bohd/32/431694_2.png) [@James\_Bohd](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/James_Bohd)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2024, 9:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/on-the-reality-of-mining-permits/460089/193 "2024-09-24T21:19:02Z")

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[quote=“Zaera Keena, post:191, topic:460089, full:true, username:Zaera\_Keena”]  
Calm down miner  
[/quote] hihajahoo

Calm down, Jezebel.

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**Author:** ![James\_Bohd](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/james_bohd/32/431694_2.png) [@James\_Bohd](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/James_Bohd)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2024, 9:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/on-the-reality-of-mining-permits/460089/194 "2024-09-24T21:20:07Z")

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> [@Zaera\_Keena](#):
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> Your tears are delicious

You’re deluded. I ain’t crying 😂

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**Author:** ![James\_Bohd](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/james_bohd/32/431694_2.png) [@James\_Bohd](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/James_Bohd)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2024, 9:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/on-the-reality-of-mining-permits/460089/195 "2024-09-24T21:21:08Z")

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Love the art, though.

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**Author:** ![Syeed\_Ameer\_Ali](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/syeed_ameer_ali/32/411549_2.png) [@Syeed\_Ameer\_Ali](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Syeed_Ameer_Ali)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2024, 10:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/on-the-reality-of-mining-permits/460089/197 "2024-09-24T22:03:20Z")

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Now that we have established that mining permits are, in fact, real - what about the reality of unpermitted miners?

Are we just supposed to accept on faith that these entities are, in fact, _real_, in the same sense that you and I are real? Like behind the keyboard, I mean. You all, like me, are living, breathing homo sapiens. We eat and drink and exercise, and care about our families. Sometimes we make mistakes, but at the end of the day, we can listen to reason and correct our errors. Like by buying mining permits when the need is explained to us, for example.

Can the same be said of unpermitted miners? Do they even have souls? Some of them say over and over again that they will never pay for a mining permit. Does this seem like the attitude of a real person, capable of reason? Or is it the mindless, repetitive behavior of an automaton? If we track these “people” down and visit their address of record, will we find bipedal organisms there who exist in a family unit, have offspring that they care for, and engage in unique conversations with one another? Or will we find only the flickering lights and dusty wires of the online simulacrum of a person, existing only in the sense of the repetitive electonic signals that it is programmed to transmit?

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**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2024, 10:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/on-the-reality-of-mining-permits/460089/198 "2024-09-24T22:05:37Z")

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Our research indicates unpermitted miners are NOT real - they are in fact bots, and mere simulations of a person. We have thus designed the mining permit as a CAPTCHA, since the bots are incapable of obtaining a permit, and only actual real human beings are capable of completing this task.

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**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2024, 10:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/on-the-reality-of-mining-permits/460089/199 "2024-09-24T22:11:25Z")

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> [@James\_Bohd](#):
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> I will **NEVER** pay for a mining permit, Aiko-Jezebel-Keena-Kara

![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/a/0/5/a05f4b4398fec3038f96bb85edde5797fd1b62dc.webp)

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**Author:** ![James\_Bohd](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/james_bohd/32/431694_2.png) [@James\_Bohd](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/James_Bohd)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2024, 10:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/on-the-reality-of-mining-permits/460089/200 "2024-09-24T22:25:26Z")

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> [@Aiko\_Danuja](#):
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> they are in fact **bots**

I’m sure you mean Multiboxers.

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**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2024, 10:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/on-the-reality-of-mining-permits/460089/201 "2024-09-24T22:40:52Z")

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Are you another lonely singlebox?

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**Author:** ![Felix\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/felix_frostpacker/32/420339_2.png) [@Felix\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Felix_Frostpacker)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2024, 10:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/on-the-reality-of-mining-permits/460089/202 "2024-09-24T22:54:03Z")

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We’re linking zkills now?

Isn’t this beneath you?

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**Author:** ![Gloria\_Exercitus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gloria_exercitus/32/509735_2.png) [@Gloria\_Exercitus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gloria_Exercitus)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2024, 12:49am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/on-the-reality-of-mining-permits/460089/203 "2024-09-25T00:49:47Z")

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> [@Syeed\_Ameer\_Ali](#):
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> Can the same be said of unpermitted miners? Do they even have souls?

They are watching Home & Away whilst AFK. They have no souls. I rest my case.

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**Author:** ![Felix\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/felix_frostpacker/32/420339_2.png) [@Felix\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Felix_Frostpacker)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2024, 7:35am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/on-the-reality-of-mining-permits/460089/204 "2024-09-25T07:35:24Z")

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Why what did I even do?

/ oh you’re talking to the other pilot.

Lolz

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**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2024, 10:03am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/on-the-reality-of-mining-permits/460089/205 "2024-09-25T10:03:31Z")

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> [@Aiko\_Danuja](#):
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> Are you another lonely singlebox?

@James_Bohd Pwned

 ![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/1/0/b/10b408c940a435614d2edaa49631f224066b5443.jpeg)

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