# On the Reality of Mining Permits

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/on-the-reality-of-mining-permits/460089>\
**Category:** Crime & Punishment\
**Created:** [August 30, 2024, 5:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/on-the-reality-of-mining-permits/460089 "2024-08-30T17:57:14Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ax_l_thorne/32/412835_2.png) [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ax_l_Thorne)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2024, 6:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/on-the-reality-of-mining-permits/460089/307 "2024-10-05T18:35:56Z")

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> [@Sasha\_Nemtsov](#):
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> The people sitting at the keyboard, wielding hand and mouse

Are they though?

I would say the vast majority of high sec miners are hands, and eyes off screen and keyboard players.

If they weren’t, you would see a lot less success ganks.

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**Author:** ![Spring\_Sky](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/spring_sky/32/447439_2.png) [@Spring\_Sky](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Spring_Sky)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2024, 7:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/on-the-reality-of-mining-permits/460089/308 "2024-10-05T19:00:46Z")

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I’m very curious about all the rage over Goodest Girl Kara, to the observant this could be from fear or anxiety like an involuntary trauma response. Did Kara hurt you? Are you suffering from PTSD, did she pod your ships or beat you up for your lunch money? Was she a better pilot? Was she a love interest that rejected you? Not sure what the story is I’ll have to ask her next time I see her, she was such a sweet heart though I can’t imagine her being a bully.🤔

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**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2024, 8:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/on-the-reality-of-mining-permits/460089/309 "2024-10-05T20:27:00Z")

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Frostpacker just has a problem with women, Aiko herself having blocked him.

She also is progressing nicely as a ganker, something poor Frosty failed at due to an innability to follow orders.

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**Author:** ![Felix\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/felix_frostpacker/32/420339_2.png) [@Felix\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Felix_Frostpacker)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2024, 8:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/on-the-reality-of-mining-permits/460089/310 "2024-10-05T20:29:27Z")

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Miners don’t get told what to do, they mine what, when and where they decide.

How they mine is up to the gankers and why they mine is beyond your wildest imagination.

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**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2024, 8:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/on-the-reality-of-mining-permits/460089/311 "2024-10-05T20:32:56Z")

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Frostpacker also likes wordsalad which will do your head in.

He still owes you an appology, but then that is like trying to get blood out of a stone.

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**Author:** ![Spring\_Sky](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/spring_sky/32/447439_2.png) [@Spring\_Sky](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Spring_Sky)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2024, 8:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/on-the-reality-of-mining-permits/460089/312 "2024-10-05T20:41:48Z")

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Right!

I’ll have to try and go hunting with Kara then, id like to learn too! I noticed her all over the mercenary kill right boards, fierce indeed. I’ll have to get her version of events so I can chronicle it

Yea, frostpacker is just a dusty miner with big ick energy so I won’t bother expecting an old dog to change it’s ways.

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**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2024, 8:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/on-the-reality-of-mining-permits/460089/313 "2024-10-05T20:46:46Z")

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> [@Felix\_Frostpacker](#):
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> why they mine is beyond your wildest imagination

🤭 😊 🍿

> [@Zaera\_Keena](#):
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> Frostpacker also likes wordsalad

😏 🤭 😊

> [@Zaera\_Keena](#):
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> appology, but then that is like trying to get blood out of a stone

> [@What do you miss about Eve that is now gone?](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/what-do-you-miss-about-eve-that-is-now-gone/157755/1618):
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> Well fyi getting isk out of frosty is similar to trying to get blood out of a stone

🤔

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**Author:** ![MB\_ThePhotographer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mb_thephotographer/32/373722_2.png) [@MB\_ThePhotographer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MB_ThePhotographer)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2024, 8:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/on-the-reality-of-mining-permits/460089/314 "2024-10-05T20:52:58Z")

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Mining permits…

“There’s one born every minute.”

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**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2024, 8:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/on-the-reality-of-mining-permits/460089/315 "2024-10-05T20:56:51Z")

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![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/7/a/d/7ad7161ce110f2ac0f4eeccd7f87c2c6a4162240.jpeg)

Guess who?

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**Author:** ![Spring\_Sky](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/spring_sky/32/447439_2.png) [@Spring\_Sky](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Spring_Sky)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2024, 9:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/on-the-reality-of-mining-permits/460089/316 "2024-10-05T21:02:03Z")

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Let me think for a minute 🤔

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**Author:** ![Good\_Girl\_Kara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/good_girl_kara/32/494832_2.png) [@Good\_Girl\_Kara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Good_Girl_Kara)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2024, 12:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/on-the-reality-of-mining-permits/460089/317 "2024-10-06T12:00:35Z")

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> [@Spring\_Sky](#):
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> Goodest Girl Kara

I am THE Goodest Girl, yes!

> [@Zaera\_Keena](#):
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> She also is progressing nicely as a ganker

Thank you for measuring my self-improvement efforts, Zaera, your kind words mean a lot to me :3

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**Author:** ![Gloria\_Exercitus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gloria_exercitus/32/509735_2.png) [@Gloria\_Exercitus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gloria_Exercitus)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2024, 12:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/on-the-reality-of-mining-permits/460089/318 "2024-10-06T12:20:15Z")

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Reminds me of the old ditto…

_“Big fleas have little fleas upon their backs to bite 'em, and little fleas have lesser fleas, and so ad infinitum”_

And that is Eve in a single sentence 🙂

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**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2024, 12:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/on-the-reality-of-mining-permits/460089/319 "2024-10-06T12:24:16Z")

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> [@Gloria\_Exercitus](#):
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> And that is Eve in a single sentence

Indeed. For a substantial fee, I permit CCP to use the gif to promote eve and bring more flys to splat to the game.

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**Author:** ![Gloria\_Exercitus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gloria_exercitus/32/509735_2.png) [@Gloria\_Exercitus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gloria_Exercitus)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2024, 3:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/on-the-reality-of-mining-permits/460089/320 "2024-10-06T15:22:49Z")

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My message to CCP would be…_people need to find risk a fun thing_. The NPE, at least the one I had, that says ’ you will die lots of times’ doesn’t seem to get the message home. It’s like, no sooner have people had that infamous NPE Astero battle and got told they are immortal and will die often…than they are out in space quaking in their boots over the prospect of losing a poxy Venture they can replace for free anyway. And cursing and crying at anyone that does make them die…not even often but just once.

Maybe the NPE should have multiple deaths…just to make the point. I would even add that being ganked as a noob should be _part_ of the NPE.

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**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2024, 3:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/on-the-reality-of-mining-permits/460089/321 "2024-10-06T15:33:30Z")

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Made a new alt recenlty skipped over that Astero Battle nonsense. It was just delaying my alt from getting her fangs into her first victim.

 ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/e/3/7/e375573fc956fba4105cd03f78a8c26e6b2d41cc.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![Gloria\_Exercitus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gloria_exercitus/32/509735_2.png) [@Gloria\_Exercitus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gloria_Exercitus)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2024, 3:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/on-the-reality-of-mining-permits/460089/322 "2024-10-06T15:37:26Z")

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AI generated ? I see a lot of that sort of stuff on Deviant Art website. I never know if someone has hand drawn it or has just told some AI programme ‘generate an elf vampire’.

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**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2024, 5:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/on-the-reality-of-mining-permits/460089/323 "2024-10-06T17:02:29Z")

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> [@Gloria\_Exercitus](#):
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> AI generated

It seems even the purist gankers became bot aspirants when it comes to lazy art generation… not so different from the lazy miners they often criticize.

🤭 😈 🍿

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**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2024, 5:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/on-the-reality-of-mining-permits/460089/324 "2024-10-06T17:31:23Z")

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> [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](#):
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> when it comes to lazy art generation

You jumping the gun buster

No ganker has admitted to using AI generation

Miners however are lazy bums

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**Author:** ![Felix\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/felix_frostpacker/32/420339_2.png) [@Felix\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Felix_Frostpacker)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2024, 7:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/on-the-reality-of-mining-permits/460089/325 "2024-10-06T19:57:41Z")

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> [@Zaera\_Keena](#):
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> Miners however are lazy bums

Don’t forget that you are also a member of the Miners Association Committee!

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**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2024, 8:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/on-the-reality-of-mining-permits/460089/326 "2024-10-06T20:46:52Z")

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Don’t forget that **Frotposting** is forbidden

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