# On the Reality of Mining Permits

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/on-the-reality-of-mining-permits/460089>\
**Category:** Crime & Punishment\
**Created:** [August 30, 2024, 5:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/on-the-reality-of-mining-permits/460089 "2024-08-30T17:57:14Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![DrysonBennington](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/drysonbennington/32/501369_2.png) [@DrysonBennington](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DrysonBennington)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2024, 11:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/on-the-reality-of-mining-permits/460089/327 "2024-10-06T23:33:32Z")

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Nice job covering the name up, but the address?

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**Author:** ![DrysonBennington](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/drysonbennington/32/501369_2.png) [@DrysonBennington](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DrysonBennington)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2024, 11:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/on-the-reality-of-mining-permits/460089/328 "2024-10-06T23:36:04Z")

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If miners were lazy bums, then the cost to play Eve Online would be much more expensive as players would have to purchase minerals from the markets to build things.

There aren’t enough Rogue Drones to fill the mineral orders either.

No, miners are the backbone of Eve Online, so why gankers would try and break that back bone, is beyond me.

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**Author:** ![Gloria\_Exercitus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gloria_exercitus/32/509735_2.png) [@Gloria\_Exercitus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gloria_Exercitus)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2024, 11:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/on-the-reality-of-mining-permits/460089/329 "2024-10-06T23:48:09Z")

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> [@DrysonBennington](#):
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> miners are the backbone of Eve Online

 ![Jellyfish-A-new-sustainable-nutritious-and-oyster-like-food-for-the-Western-world](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/3/4/7/347960cf43cd87f4815b299003ed88ad80c5f116.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2024, 8:09am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/on-the-reality-of-mining-permits/460089/330 "2024-10-07T08:09:47Z")

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> [@DrysonBennington](#):
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> If miners were lazy bums

# When the Lazy Bum miner forgets they are mining the moon

 ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/a/5/4/a5417d0cdca5f188b453cd0f0caae2ef982c9401.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![Sasha\_Nemtsov](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sasha_nemtsov/32/393707_2.png) [@Sasha\_Nemtsov](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sasha_Nemtsov)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2024, 8:16am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/on-the-reality-of-mining-permits/460089/331 "2024-10-07T08:16:08Z")

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> [@DrysonBennington](#):
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> miners are the backbone of Eve Online, so why gankers would try and break that back bone, is beyond me.

Every ecosystem displays an interdependent and delicate balance. Gankers are nowhere near sufficiently numerous or active seriously to threaten the existence of a whole play style in EVE.

I have found that many Highsec miners are lazy (they prefer passive to active pursuits) and ignorant (they don’t know how to protect themselves) - or, of course, they’re dumb (they don’t care).

But perhaps the most telling refutation of the general thread of such arguments is that provided in a simple question:

Where do gankers get their ships and modules?

They either make or buy them, or they rely upon the many Highsec industrialists who are happy to enter with them into lucrative contracts.

None of this is threatened by the gankers’ efforts, and you will certainly fail if you attempt to prove otherwise, Dryson.

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**Author:** ![Zedminer\_Severasse](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zedminer_severasse/32/377928_2.png) [@Zedminer\_Severasse](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zedminer_Severasse)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2024, 8:20am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/on-the-reality-of-mining-permits/460089/332 "2024-10-07T08:20:03Z")

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That was 9 years and 225 ounces ago! Lol. The neighbors know who is around and you hear gunshots everday in Alaska!

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**Author:** ![DrysonBennington](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/drysonbennington/32/501369_2.png) [@DrysonBennington](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DrysonBennington)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2024, 1:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/on-the-reality-of-mining-permits/460089/333 "2024-10-07T13:45:13Z")

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Miners will always be the back of Eve Online. The day miners are removed from the game is the day Eve Online will be no more.

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**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2024, 2:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/on-the-reality-of-mining-permits/460089/334 "2024-10-07T14:43:49Z")

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> [@DrysonBennington](#):
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> he day miners are removed from the game is the day Eve Online will be no more

So why dont you buy a **mining permit** and start mining today? You can use your **proteus**

 ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/e/5/4/e5450c5e49553fd847875448af65164934ea1620.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![Spring\_Sky](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/spring_sky/32/447439_2.png) [@Spring\_Sky](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Spring_Sky)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2024, 4:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/on-the-reality-of-mining-permits/460089/335 "2024-10-07T16:17:44Z")

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Do you know why that miner looks so happy?

It’s because he just bought a mining permit

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**Author:** ![DrysonBennington](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/drysonbennington/32/501369_2.png) [@DrysonBennington](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DrysonBennington)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2024, 4:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/on-the-reality-of-mining-permits/460089/336 "2024-10-07T16:43:21Z")

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If a miner buys a mining permit for protection against other gankers, then the corporation or alliance issuing the mining permit should pay interest, to the miner, from funds recieved as a result of ganking.

Otherwise, the permit holder from ganker corp A should invest in a Catalyst and create a new character to gank members from Corp A during ganks of freighters.

Gankers should have to pay to keep from getting awoxed.

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**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2024, 4:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/on-the-reality-of-mining-permits/460089/337 "2024-10-07T16:44:18Z")

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> [@Spring\_Sky](#):
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> It’s because he just bought a mining permit

Indeed and can wear it with pride in his bio unlike DyeSon BennyTon

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**Author:** ![Spring\_Sky](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/spring_sky/32/447439_2.png) [@Spring\_Sky](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Spring_Sky)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2024, 5:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/on-the-reality-of-mining-permits/460089/338 "2024-10-07T17:15:19Z")

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I don’t think it works like that.

The most tried honored and true method is to send Aiko 100million isk

But if your uncomfortable with that I’ll gladly send it her way, but I’m pretty forgetful so your better off just sending it to her.

But if you insist tips for exceptional customer service are appreciated

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**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2024, 5:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/on-the-reality-of-mining-permits/460089/339 "2024-10-07T17:57:41Z")

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> [@Spring\_Sky](#):
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> send Aiko 100million isk

She charges 1 billion per permit, but Dryson can have one for 2 billion due to him being a special case. it only covers him though when mining in his **proteus**.

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**Author:** ![Felix\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/felix_frostpacker/32/420339_2.png) [@Felix\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Felix_Frostpacker)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2024, 6:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/on-the-reality-of-mining-permits/460089/340 "2024-10-07T18:11:07Z")

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That is overpriced.

Use to be just 10 Million isk

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**Author:** ![Spring\_Sky](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/spring_sky/32/447439_2.png) [@Spring\_Sky](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Spring_Sky)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2024, 6:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/on-the-reality-of-mining-permits/460089/341 "2024-10-07T18:12:27Z")

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I feel like the happy miners that already paid into the service might feel a certain way about that.

What with Bryson or whatever -NOT- caring about the fragile eve eco system that honest loyal hardworking permit holding miners have built up.

It’s easier to lock, pod and forget.

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**Author:** ![Felix\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/felix_frostpacker/32/420339_2.png) [@Felix\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Felix_Frostpacker)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2024, 6:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/on-the-reality-of-mining-permits/460089/342 "2024-10-07T18:13:28Z")

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Just because some miners can, doesn’t mean they should!

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**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2024, 6:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/on-the-reality-of-mining-permits/460089/343 "2024-10-07T18:15:04Z")

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> [@Spring\_Sky](#):
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> What with Bryson or whatever -NOT- caring about the fragile eve eco system

Dryson is paying for his impudence. I’d buy a license if I were him

 ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/c/a/a/caa1a072c181e46e4915443be98f6bc84362efa9.jpeg)

Thsi made me laugh

 ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/c/e/5/ce5fb11be5c0062f7c476330f1dedd231a737f9e.png)

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**Author:** ![Spring\_Sky](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/spring_sky/32/447439_2.png) [@Spring\_Sky](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Spring_Sky)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2024, 6:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/on-the-reality-of-mining-permits/460089/344 "2024-10-07T18:25:58Z")

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🤣 even concord thinks he’s a criminal for not buying a permit

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**Author:** ![Felix\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/felix_frostpacker/32/420339_2.png) [@Felix\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Felix_Frostpacker)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2024, 11:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/on-the-reality-of-mining-permits/460089/345 "2024-10-07T23:24:29Z")

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Hey, you leave him alone, it’s not like mining permits are selling like Holoreels

 ![selling-permits](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/2/f/7/2f7afa954404cd7049f193e64706ccc84c1dfed3.jpeg)  
Everytime someone asks to join Frostpacker they are asked to send 1billion isk to Princess, yet they end up changing their mind and not wanting to be a miner.

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**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2024, 11:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/on-the-reality-of-mining-permits/460089/346 "2024-10-07T23:38:04Z")

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**Jamyl Sarum** was the Empress of the Amarr Empire from YC110 until her assassination in YC117 by the Mighty Princess **Aiko Danuja**.

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