# On the Reality of Mining Permits **URL:** \ **Category:** Crime & Punishment\ **Created:** [August 30, 2024, 5:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/on-the-reality-of-mining-permits/460089 "2024-08-30T17:57:14Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 20
**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2024, 11:30am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/on-the-reality-of-mining-permits/460089/388 "2024-10-11T11:30:49Z")
The question is, do you just sell your ore in the system where you mine it or do you transport it to get the best price? And if you move your ore, is it in a cheap ass untanked t1 hauler? ---
**Author:** ![Sasha\_Nemtsov](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sasha_nemtsov/32/393707_2.png) [@Sasha\_Nemtsov](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sasha_Nemtsov)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2024, 11:41am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/on-the-reality-of-mining-permits/460089/389 "2024-10-11T11:41:49Z")
> [@Glenduil](#): > > It requires a large investment and a completely apathetic view on your own ISK wallet. Yes, that’s true. In addition, there is the approach beloved of the average belt-miner that yield is to be preferred over tank - which slots neatly into your ‘apathy’ towards the overall condition of your Wallet. They are almost all greedy and frugal, in equal measure. Skiffs do, of course, get ganked, but hardly routinely; there are indeed better prospects for the solo ganker in particular, while the ‘surprise’ value of ganking a Skiff can be rewarding for some practitioners. As for the Mining Permit, it was introduced over a decade ago in order to regulate bumping, initially. To legitimise the activity, one might say, in terms of not falling prey to accusations of griefing. I do bump Skiffs out of mining range, both to deter AFK mining and to preserve the choicest rocks for my pals. The average belt-miner doesn’t know what a Higgs’ Anchor is and wouldn’t use one if he did. Bumping is back! ---
**Author:** ![Glenduil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glenduil/32/501812_2.png) [@Glenduil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glenduil)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2024, 11:49am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/on-the-reality-of-mining-permits/460089/390 "2024-10-11T11:49:25Z")
> [@On the Reality of Mining Permits](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/on-the-reality-of-mining-permits/460089/388): > > The question is, do you just sell your ore in the system where you mine it or do you transport it to get the best price? And if you move your ore, is it in a cheap ass untanked t1 hauler? I reprocess it and I usually sell it in that very station. I don’t transport often at all. ---
**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2024, 11:50am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/on-the-reality-of-mining-permits/460089/391 "2024-10-11T11:50:50Z")
Losing money then. ---
**Author:** ![Glenduil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glenduil/32/501812_2.png) [@Glenduil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glenduil)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2024, 11:51am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/on-the-reality-of-mining-permits/460089/392 "2024-10-11T11:51:43Z")
“Bumping is back!” I don’t mind bumping. It’s fun and makes me laugh! I played this game over a decade ago and I know all about bumping. ---
**Author:** ![Glenduil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glenduil/32/501812_2.png) [@Glenduil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glenduil)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2024, 11:53am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/on-the-reality-of-mining-permits/460089/393 "2024-10-11T11:53:16Z")
> [@On the Reality of Mining Permits](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/on-the-reality-of-mining-permits/460089/391): > > Losing money then. That doesn’t bother me. ---
**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2024, 11:54am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/on-the-reality-of-mining-permits/460089/394 "2024-10-11T11:54:57Z")
Well then , send me some money, how about 100 million isk? ---
**Author:** ![Glenduil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glenduil/32/501812_2.png) [@Glenduil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glenduil)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2024, 11:57am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/on-the-reality-of-mining-permits/460089/395 "2024-10-11T11:57:06Z")
I don’t fund extortion rackets led by suicide cults. Get a job and buy Plex! ---
**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2024, 11:58am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/on-the-reality-of-mining-permits/460089/396 "2024-10-11T11:58:03Z")
> [@Glenduil](#): > > Get a job and buy Plex! So now we know why you dont care about making ISK ---
**Author:** ![Glenduil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glenduil/32/501812_2.png) [@Glenduil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glenduil)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2024, 11:59am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/on-the-reality-of-mining-permits/460089/397 "2024-10-11T11:59:31Z")
Bingo! I’m a very relaxed player. I keep to myself, make friends, and buy PLEX if I need ISK. In the chaos of life, it’s nice to know where I can just chill and relax. ---
**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2024, 12:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/on-the-reality-of-mining-permits/460089/398 "2024-10-11T12:02:38Z")
I am space poor, my ships keep blowing up for some reason. For 100 million Zaera be your friend. ![approve](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/7/4/3/7432855a0a598902b16a55f1ccf157c63115d11c.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Gloria\_Exercitus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gloria_exercitus/32/509735_2.png) [@Gloria\_Exercitus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gloria_Exercitus)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2024, 1:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/on-the-reality-of-mining-permits/460089/399 "2024-10-11T13:17:11Z")
> [@Glenduil](#): > > It’s way more relaxing when you just don’t care about being blown up. The supposedly nonchalant approach sort of begs the question…what _do_ you care about ? What is the end goal ? If everything is just a means to its own end, which doing nothing but mining effectively is, then there’s nothing you are actually doing it _for_. Other than to do more of it. This is why, when people say kills don’t matter, my response is ’ well then…what _does_ ? ---
**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2024, 1:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/on-the-reality-of-mining-permits/460089/400 "2024-10-11T13:21:08Z")
He already answered this. He doesn’t care about money as gets all his ISK and skiffs by buying plex with his credit card. Just likes mining to be alone and make friends. I even offered to be his friend as he not gonna make many mining alone. ---
**Author:** ![Glenduil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glenduil/32/501812_2.png) [@Glenduil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glenduil)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2024, 1:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/on-the-reality-of-mining-permits/460089/401 "2024-10-11T13:30:37Z")
> [@On the Reality of Mining Permits](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/on-the-reality-of-mining-permits/460089/400): > > He already answered this. He doesn’t care about money as gets all his ISK and skiffs by buying plex with his credit card. Just likes mining to be alone and make friends. I even offered to be his friend as he not gonna make many mining alone. Yep. The last game I played and just quit was full of PvP, anger, frustration, and just toxicity. It was adding to my stress and since it was pay to win, I was literally paying for something that made me unhappy. All the PvP could be theraputic, but in the end, I was just attacking others out of hate for daring to attack me and my alliance. It was time for a change so I left. Now I just mine and chat with my fellow miners. My stress levels are returning to normal. I don’t mind PvP if it comes my way. That’s why I won’t mind if I lose a ship. PvP happens and Eve is a PvP game 🙂 This is so much more relaxing! ---
**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2024, 1:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/on-the-reality-of-mining-permits/460089/402 "2024-10-11T13:56:45Z")
There is nothing more relaxing than AFK mining and coming back to a pod in a station ---
**Author:** ![Ogun\_Ferraille](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ogun_ferraille/32/467938_2.png) [@Ogun\_Ferraille](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ogun_Ferraille)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2024, 2:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/on-the-reality-of-mining-permits/460089/403 "2024-10-11T14:04:48Z")
oh my gosh ---
**Author:** ![Gloria\_Exercitus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gloria_exercitus/32/509735_2.png) [@Gloria\_Exercitus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gloria_Exercitus)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2024, 2:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/on-the-reality-of-mining-permits/460089/404 "2024-10-11T14:08:30Z")
> [@Glenduil](#): > > This is so much more relaxing! I love to see wildebeest relaxing… ![c0068827-800px-wm](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/6/c/9/6c9353075d70d4f0ae9a45cb09d4d4f9bee130c6.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Glenduil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glenduil/32/501812_2.png) [@Glenduil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glenduil)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2024, 2:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/on-the-reality-of-mining-permits/460089/405 "2024-10-11T14:13:53Z")
hahaha You’ll need a lot of your not so closest friends to die for the cause! But hey, don’t let me dissuade you! I would love to see someone willing to lose a ship capable of soloing my Skiff before Concord shows up! ---
**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2024, 2:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/on-the-reality-of-mining-permits/460089/406 "2024-10-11T14:19:04Z")
> [@Glenduil](#): > > a lot of your **not so closest friends** We are closer than you think. ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/c/b/4/cb423d5e318d332d9cefbbfd4ef38a3e844e2e36.jpeg) Dissapointed? ---
**Author:** ![Glenduil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glenduil/32/501812_2.png) [@Glenduil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glenduil)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2024, 2:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/on-the-reality-of-mining-permits/460089/407 "2024-10-11T14:20:54Z")
Awww how cute! I honestly love the emotion you relay through your images to emphasize your posts. You do a great job! [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/on-the-reality-of-mining-permits/460089.md?page=19) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/on-the-reality-of-mining-permits/460089.md?page=21)