# On the Reality of Mining Permits **URL:** \ **Category:** Crime & Punishment\ **Created:** [August 30, 2024, 5:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/on-the-reality-of-mining-permits/460089 "2024-08-30T17:57:14Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 25
**Author:** ![Gloria\_Exercitus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gloria_exercitus/32/509735_2.png) [@Gloria\_Exercitus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gloria_Exercitus)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2024, 9:52am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/on-the-reality-of-mining-permits/460089/489 "2024-10-13T09:52:48Z")
> [@Gloria\_Exercitus](#): > > The score is now 1-1 with that baiter Enyo. Actually now that killboard is back up and running I see the score against the baiter is not 1-1 but 4-1…to me. Anyway, lessons learned and amended fitting applied. Which never seems to happen with gankees…as you see them out getting ganked in the exact same bad fitting again and again. ---
**Author:** ![Gloria\_Exercitus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gloria_exercitus/32/509735_2.png) [@Gloria\_Exercitus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gloria_Exercitus)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2024, 9:58am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/on-the-reality-of-mining-permits/460089/490 "2024-10-13T09:58:16Z")
> [@MB\_ThePhotographer](#): > > I learned that the hard way myself. Made me a better player although… Which is very true, because its often not until one encounters a loss that an issue really comes to the forefront. I can trace my loss yesterday directly to the ship not being cap stable…which I thought I could get away with but in a longer fight ( this one went on for several minutes ) its a disaster waiting to happen, and it did. ---
**Author:** ![Kaely\_Tanniss](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kaely_tanniss/32/474209_2.png) [@Kaely\_Tanniss](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kaely_Tanniss)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2024, 5:35am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/on-the-reality-of-mining-permits/460089/491 "2024-10-14T05:35:24Z")
> [@Aiko\_Danuja](#): > > My point would be you have killed one Venture in over six years, so before you talk about PvP, you should try it yourself. I endorse this message… 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Kaely\_Tanniss](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kaely_tanniss/32/474209_2.png) [@Kaely\_Tanniss](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kaely_Tanniss)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2024, 5:37am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/on-the-reality-of-mining-permits/460089/492 "2024-10-14T05:37:18Z")
> [@Aiko\_Danuja](#): > > He’s a 2008 bittervet trying to shame me for having a better killboard than him. I have a better kb than him… Bitter, yes. Veteran, idk about that. ---
**Author:** ![Alexander\_Boris\_Johnson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/alexander_boris_johnson/32/436863_2.png) [@Alexander\_Boris\_Johnson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Alexander_Boris_Johnson)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2024, 8:51am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/on-the-reality-of-mining-permits/460089/493 "2024-10-14T08:51:21Z")
This is a cute idea @Aiko_Danuja, it always makes me smile that you can be a real hard-nosed arse in-game, but an absolute sweetheart on the forums. I guess you have to ask, is this THE most important thing CCP could do, in terms of game development? Assume this dev takes 3 sprints (6 weeks) and a sprint costs CCP ~£6k. (product manager, devs, qa etc). Will this new feature drive an extra £18k of subscription revenue or PLEX sales, in the short, medium or long term? I might be well off w/ my numbers here (bigger teams, longer dev time, more expensive squads) but I guess the principal is the same, is this the most valuable development work CCP can do with the recourses they have? If you can demonstrate value then there’s a greater chance this suggestion will be considered I’m guessing. ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2024, 11:20am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/on-the-reality-of-mining-permits/460089/494 "2024-10-14T11:20:51Z")
The most important thing CCP could do is to replace Jita with an Aiko statue. ---
**Author:** ![Ogun\_Ferraille](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ogun_ferraille/32/467938_2.png) [@Ogun\_Ferraille](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ogun_Ferraille)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2024, 2:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/on-the-reality-of-mining-permits/460089/495 "2024-10-14T14:56:32Z")
rightly the old target was broken ![JJJita](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/9/a/b/9abd27698d9925168618fe8cbd762c760d3bb857.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![DrysonBennington](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/drysonbennington/32/501369_2.png) [@DrysonBennington](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DrysonBennington)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2024, 4:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/on-the-reality-of-mining-permits/460089/496 "2024-10-14T16:53:31Z")
No, Im not bitter and no I don’t need to shame you by using a KB. You shame comes actually believing that you are any different than James 314.859. I PvP in Low and Null. Most of the time I got caught by pirates. Sometimes I catch the pirates, but in no way do I attack mining barges, or mining frigates or haulers. Those ships are way to easy to defeat. There is very little risk involved in attacking the mining barge class of ship. ---
**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2024, 5:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/on-the-reality-of-mining-permits/460089/497 "2024-10-14T17:22:53Z")
> [@DrysonBennington](#): > > Most of the time I got caught by pirates In other words - **you suck**. You clearly need to go on a **Safety.** course, entry requirements being to gank 1000 ventures, mining barges, mining frigates, F1 monkeys, haulers or Frostpackers. ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2024, 6:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/on-the-reality-of-mining-permits/460089/498 "2024-10-14T18:26:17Z")
> [@Zaera\_Keena](#): > > ventures, mining barges, mining frigates, F1 monkeys, haulers or Frostpackers Kinda redundant though as Frostpacker falls under all prior listed categories. 🤭 😊 🍿 ---
**Author:** ![DrysonBennington](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/drysonbennington/32/501369_2.png) [@DrysonBennington](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DrysonBennington)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2024, 9:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/on-the-reality-of-mining-permits/460089/499 "2024-10-14T21:12:07Z")
Aiko, on these, killboard kills that you have. How many times have you instructed your fleet to stop firing near the end of the kill to ensure that you get your name on the kill as being the one who laid the final blow? I’m surprised, that with such scathing vanity, your sec status isn’t maintained at top level. Such a top-level sec status would allow you to sit in your ganker ship instructing your fleet to give you the last shot, without drawing Concord fire to your ship before you can get the last shot in and therefore, claiming every kill as the final blow. ---
**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2024, 9:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/on-the-reality-of-mining-permits/460089/500 "2024-10-14T21:21:36Z")
> [@DrysonBennington](#): > > How many times have you instructed your fleet to stop firing Clueless ---
**Author:** ![Srajin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/srajin/32/378084_2.png) [@Srajin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Srajin)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2024, 9:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/on-the-reality-of-mining-permits/460089/501 "2024-10-14T21:37:26Z")
> [@DrysonBennington](#): > > ’m surprised, that with such scathing vanity, your sec status isn’t maintained at top level. Such a top-level sec status would allow you to sit in your ganker ship instructing your fleet to give you the last shot Because such expense on clone tags to maintain a top sec status is simply poor management of resources. This ISK is better utilized on Gucci bags. ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2024, 9:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/on-the-reality-of-mining-permits/460089/502 "2024-10-14T21:43:36Z")
> [@DrysonBennington](#): > > How many times have you instructed your fleet to stop firing near the end of the kill to ensure that you get your name on the kill as being the one who laid the final blow? I never have to ask. They do it voluntarily, out of respect for me. ---
**Author:** ![Kaely\_Tanniss](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kaely_tanniss/32/474209_2.png) [@Kaely\_Tanniss](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kaely_Tanniss)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2024, 9:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/on-the-reality-of-mining-permits/460089/503 "2024-10-14T21:52:55Z")
Oh Dryson, so cute. I get it, you’re an f1 monkey. Everyone trying to sound “cool” claims to pvp in low/null. Or, the classic “come out to null and we’ll see what’s up”. Like somehow that makes you 'leet and lends validity to…whatever. If you bothered to look, you’d see I don’t attack barges, exhumers, etc (unless they’re a wt) and I don’t gank. I’ve lived and fought in low, null, wh, hs, you name it. That doesn’t somehow make me any better than any other pvp’er or player with cajones enough to enjoy the game yet somehow it does for you… or so you believe. Clearly you like to convey your discontent onto others for doing what the game is all about. I’m sorry you dislike the game so much. So why, again, do you play? 🤔 ---
**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2024, 10:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/on-the-reality-of-mining-permits/460089/504 "2024-10-14T22:11:48Z")
> [@Kaely\_Tanniss](#): > > So why, again, do you play? Because he just loves hitting that **F1 Monkey Button**. ---
**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2024, 10:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/on-the-reality-of-mining-permits/460089/505 "2024-10-14T22:30:48Z")
As a Doctor of Gankotherapy, Zaera has studied @DrysonBennington in depth. She has come to the conclusion that he has a severe case of PTSD due to events 10 years ago, whereby poor dryson got a severe spanking by CODE resulting in the loss of multiple Proteus and other shiny ships. As a result of his PTSD, he is unable to accept that CODE is no more and believes that AIKO and her band of merry men are CODE and holds them responsible for the loss of his shiny toys, recently having lost yet another Proteus to Safety. Not so long ago, Aiko invited Dryson to a duel in Uedama. Dryson fled to Nul sec soon after ![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/0/7/8/078e060f4bd79801b55de81c6f935410415d5f76.gif) ---
**Author:** ![Sasha\_Nemtsov](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sasha_nemtsov/32/393707_2.png) [@Sasha\_Nemtsov](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sasha_Nemtsov)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2024, 10:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/on-the-reality-of-mining-permits/460089/506 "2024-10-14T22:51:05Z")
> [@Zaera\_Keena](#): > > dryson got a severe spanking by CODE Thanks Zaera; this is it, in a nutshell. For those of us who were around at the time, Dryson represented comedy gold. There was little he said or did which didn’t find its way onto the Minerbumping blog - and cause this avid reader more than the occasional titter. He may now be trying to reinvent himself as some kind of hardcore Nullsec PvP player, but he will struggle in vain wholly to shake off the taint of early dilettantism. He’s still entertaining, but does he know it, I wonder? ---
**Author:** ![MB\_ThePhotographer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mb_thephotographer/32/373722_2.png) [@MB\_ThePhotographer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MB_ThePhotographer)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2024, 1:54am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/on-the-reality-of-mining-permits/460089/507 "2024-10-15T01:54:11Z")
> [@Kaely\_Tanniss](#): > > Veteran 🤣 You crack me up! ---
**Author:** ![DrysonBennington](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/drysonbennington/32/501369_2.png) [@DrysonBennington](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DrysonBennington)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2024, 1:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/on-the-reality-of-mining-permits/460089/508 "2024-10-15T13:44:26Z")
I actually enjoy the game. I also like calling bullsh\*t on gamers who talk about how elite they are, but can never fight a solo Low or Null battle but can only blob around with bot aspirants. Low and Null must be to organized in their networks for you to get many kills by simply pulling Concord and then warping to the gate. Must be to expensive for Safety to fly in Low and Null compared to High Sec. Elite PvP takes place in Low and Nul. Ganking in High Sec is just special people wearing special helmets in a fleet bumping into things. Make certain to have your flag up. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/on-the-reality-of-mining-permits/460089.md?page=24) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/on-the-reality-of-mining-permits/460089.md?page=26)