# On the Reality of Mining Permits

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/on-the-reality-of-mining-permits/460089>\
**Category:** Crime & Punishment\
**Created:** [August 30, 2024, 5:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/on-the-reality-of-mining-permits/460089 "2024-08-30T17:57:14Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2024, 9:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/on-the-reality-of-mining-permits/460089/549 "2024-10-16T21:14:33Z")

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> [@DrysonBennington](#):
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> I still have the same morals

Yeah right, what’s this ganker?

 ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/f/0/e/f0e4f60d6bc24e078f6b7679760804092de012ba.png)

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**Author:** ![Kaely\_Tanniss](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kaely_tanniss/32/474209_2.png) [@Kaely\_Tanniss](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kaely_Tanniss)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2024, 12:13am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/on-the-reality-of-mining-permits/460089/550 "2024-10-17T00:13:43Z")

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So much for the same morals in and out of game… 😝 You mean this is how you are in rl too? 🫢

Can you say hypocrite? It’s a game. Accept it, enjoy it, embrace it…or don’t play it.

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**Author:** ![Kaely\_Tanniss](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kaely_tanniss/32/474209_2.png) [@Kaely\_Tanniss](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kaely_Tanniss)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2024, 12:36am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/on-the-reality-of-mining-permits/460089/551 "2024-10-17T00:36:36Z")

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@Dryson

A little wisdom from Saint Augustine of Hippo, for you. I think he puts it in perfect perspective…

“And yet, will we ever come to an end of discussion and talk if we think we must always reply to replies? For replies come from those who either cannot understand what is said to them, or are so stubborn and contentious that they refuse to give in even if they do understand.”

…and this one as well.

“How high a price we pay for the burden of habit. I am fitted for life here where I do not want to be, I want to live there but I am unfit for it, and on both counts I am miserable.”

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**Author:** ![Glenduil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glenduil/32/501812_2.png) [@Glenduil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glenduil)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2024, 5:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/on-the-reality-of-mining-permits/460089/552 "2024-10-17T17:46:19Z")

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Dryson, why do you play a PvP game and complain about the PvP? I really doubt you actually fly in null. You complain too much about what happens in high sec.

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**Author:** ![DrysonBennington](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/drysonbennington/32/501369_2.png) [@DrysonBennington](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DrysonBennington)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2024, 1:58am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/on-the-reality-of-mining-permits/460089/553 "2024-10-18T01:58:46Z")

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Eve Online is not just about PVP, it’s also about PVE, exploration, manufacturing, mission running, etc.

All of the notions about Eve Online being all PvP is gaslighting, just like making miners buy permits is, also gaslighting.

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**Author:** ![MB\_ThePhotographer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mb_thephotographer/32/373722_2.png) [@MB\_ThePhotographer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MB_ThePhotographer)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2024, 2:16am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/on-the-reality-of-mining-permits/460089/554 "2024-10-18T02:16:49Z")

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> [@DrysonBennington](#):
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> Eve Online is not just about PVP, it’s also about PVE, exploration, manufacturing, mission running, etc.

I joined the game because that **all** came with a risk.

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**Author:** ![Glenduil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glenduil/32/501812_2.png) [@Glenduil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glenduil)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2024, 6:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/on-the-reality-of-mining-permits/460089/555 "2024-10-18T18:59:25Z")

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I did not say it was ALL about PvP. But thanks for acknowledging that I was right. PvP will happen in this game. It’s a part of it. You even acknowledged that.

Now why complain about it?

P.S.- Oh and I don’t buy mining permits. I will always dissuade every miner from ever buying a mining permit. Don’t buy them. Embrace the risk and fly free.

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**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2024, 7:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/on-the-reality-of-mining-permits/460089/556 "2024-10-18T19:01:40Z")

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> [@Glenduil](#):
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> Embrace the risk and fly free.

Calm down miner. If you embrace the risk, rather than just pretending, then you will obviously pay me to hunt you. Embrace the risk, right?

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**Author:** ![Glenduil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glenduil/32/501812_2.png) [@Glenduil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glenduil)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2024, 7:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/on-the-reality-of-mining-permits/460089/557 "2024-10-18T19:05:12Z")

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Calm down, Ganker. I’ve given all of you an open invitation to hunt me. Embrace the rISK and fly free! That’s my motto!

![331c60c5-0e28-4544-ab76-c56b6fd7de64_text](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/4/f/6/4f655e16c68a64137d27f52f1dfb506a595cd6ef.gif)

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**Author:** ![Spring\_Sky](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/spring_sky/32/447439_2.png) [@Spring\_Sky](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Spring_Sky)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2024, 7:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/on-the-reality-of-mining-permits/460089/558 "2024-10-18T19:15:01Z")

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She’s no mere woman that’s the Amarrian Empress your addressing show some respect.

Either that or she is the blood god the blood raiders unearthed from the long long ago.

Nobody paid my 1 billion isk fee to roam the catacombs for answers so that’s as far as I got.

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**Author:** ![Glenduil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glenduil/32/501812_2.png) [@Glenduil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glenduil)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2024, 7:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/on-the-reality-of-mining-permits/460089/559 "2024-10-18T19:22:41Z")

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> [@On the Reality of Mining Permits](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/on-the-reality-of-mining-permits/460089/558):
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> She’s no mere woman that’s the Amarrian Empress your addressing show some respect. Either that or she is the blood god the blood raiders unearthed from the long long ago. Nobody paid my 1 billion isk fee to roam the catacombs for answers so that’s as far as I got.

![3f32a29b-7082-4a0e-9125-13c8767131a0_text](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/f/9/c/f9c9f0a2b941098d97c9ace352bc951caa43650e.gif)

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**Author:** ![Felix\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/felix_frostpacker/32/420339_2.png) [@Felix\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Felix_Frostpacker)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2024, 5:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/on-the-reality-of-mining-permits/460089/560 "2024-10-19T17:00:27Z")

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I don’t know about you though Princess frightens the veldspa out of me!

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**Author:** ![Glenduil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glenduil/32/501812_2.png) [@Glenduil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glenduil)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2024, 5:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/on-the-reality-of-mining-permits/460089/561 "2024-10-19T17:29:08Z")

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Why would she scare me? Best case scenario, my shields hold and Concord arrives in time to save the day. Worst case scenario, my ship blows up and I get into one of my other skiffs that are already fitted and ready to go.

Where is the fear?

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**Author:** ![Felix\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/felix_frostpacker/32/420339_2.png) [@Felix\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Felix_Frostpacker)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2024, 5:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/on-the-reality-of-mining-permits/460089/562 "2024-10-19T17:32:53Z")

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Fear goes beyond any ship hulls, the fear hits you like the cold depths of space that extends far from your clone and threatens your very next undock.

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**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2024, 5:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/on-the-reality-of-mining-permits/460089/563 "2024-10-19T17:39:22Z")

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> [@Felix\_Frostpacker](#):
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> I don’t know about you though Princess frightens the veldspa out of me!

> [@Hard Miners life](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hard-miners-life/464830/44):
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> If he writes “Ventura” one more time I’m gonna lose it.

🤭 😈 🍿

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**Author:** ![Glenduil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glenduil/32/501812_2.png) [@Glenduil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glenduil)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2024, 5:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/on-the-reality-of-mining-permits/460089/564 "2024-10-19T17:40:40Z")

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> [@On the Reality of Mining Permits](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/on-the-reality-of-mining-permits/460089/562):
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> Fear goes beyond any ship hulls, the fear hits you like the cold depths of space that extends far from your clone and threatens your very next undock.

Capsuleers aren’t supposed to know fear.

[![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/4/e/1/4e1d90f0ab4fe8883a6bf692709889906883ea9f.jpeg "The Crow. 1994. Eric Draven`s laugh 2") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cFYlTY-JY-Q)

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**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2024, 5:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/on-the-reality-of-mining-permits/460089/565 "2024-10-19T17:47:59Z")

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There was only ONE crow, the rest suck.

 ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/d/5/b/d5bc8398321a00336883f6ea6ab9d6c638d3e6e2.jpeg)

With regard to should yoube afraid?

Most definately, be very afraid!

Now if you were not such a chicken, you would pay her as incentive to come for you as she is a busy lady.

> [@Glenduil](#):
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> Where is the fear?

Pay her and learn the hard way.

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**Author:** ![Felix\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/felix_frostpacker/32/420339_2.png) [@Felix\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Felix_Frostpacker)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2024, 6:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/on-the-reality-of-mining-permits/460089/566 "2024-10-19T18:01:06Z")

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> [@Zaera\_Keena](#):
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> pay her as incentive to come for you

And then pay Princess every month to leave you alone!

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**Author:** ![Glenduil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glenduil/32/501812_2.png) [@Glenduil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glenduil)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2024, 6:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/on-the-reality-of-mining-permits/460089/567 "2024-10-19T18:06:15Z")

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Take your shot, Funboy. You got me dead bang.

And yes. Only one Crow.

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**Author:** ![Felix\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/felix_frostpacker/32/420339_2.png) [@Felix\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Felix_Frostpacker)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2024, 6:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/on-the-reality-of-mining-permits/460089/568 "2024-10-19T18:16:44Z")

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Do you even mine?

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